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Outbound Talent to CSU vs Inbound Talent from Toledo

gioff2323 said:
IMO, we barely beat ball state and buffalo. I’m not sure we were better than Toledo.
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The 9 wins was due to Joe, Skyler, Cam, and the offensive line primarily. Everyone got a good hard look what we looked like without them vs Army and it wasn't pretty.
 
Yes the offense as a whole was the key part in our success (I’m mostly kidding)
 
NEforceUConn said:
I’m really enjoying this thread. Classy educated posts with little smack talk. Keep it up BY.

I never realized Toledo was that good, but I don’t get out much. Coach Candle seems to be a hell of a coach to get so many former players. CSU hasn’t announced too many Huskies going west to smoke weed.

Regarding Cam Chadwick, I hope Vaginal Tech paid him serious money. I will miss him and wish him well.

Bleed Blue!
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It probably helped that our former special teams coach ended up there as well.
 
businesslawyer said:
Please stop. If we open next season with what would have been Toledo’s roster but for the coaching change, I will be concerned. But does it really take being a rocket scientist to understand the quite obvious reasons why the FIRST group of transfers who are going to come here are going to be those who played for, or are otherwise close to, Candle?
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lol…. Coach leaves and players put name in portal. It’s obvious why Candle is going after his players from Toledo, and it’s telling even more that many players are following him.

do people really think that Candles only ability to recruit moving forward will be from the Toledo Rockets?

These same people will also be first to point out if Candle didn’t get any Toledo players, and UConn was forced to recruit low G5 caliber talent just to fill roster
 
Low hanging fruit, pick em first. I would imagine as the roster slowly fills up, more and more energy will be dedicated to finding those next level kids, real difference makers. Off the top of my head, the linebacker looks like he may be that, not sure if we have anyone on the offense who fits the bill. We may be talking about Osborne, the QB as that in a year(let's hope), he sure projects that potential.
 
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gioff2323 said:
IMO, we barely beat ball state and buffalo. I’m not sure we were better than Toledo.
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They also lost to Bowling Green. I would say that if we played itd be 55-45 in favor of the good guys.
 
UCFBfan said:
It’s nice to see Candle bringing over some of the better players he recruited. However, we aren’t Toledo, but this roster looks to be Toledo’s roster just from the list of portal transfers. We need other players from other levels. I’m not doubting the talent but I’m a little worried that the only portal guys, minus two, that we’ve landed are guys from Candles Toledo team. Sorry for saying out loud what I think a lot are thinking inside.
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The early transfers in were likely already sold on this HC and Staff so that is what the pipeline is providing at the moment. Gotta think locking down those players has to be one of the priorities. Notice that I do not use the term low hanging fruit, as that phrase has a connotation we want to avoid. The class of players you are talking about will take time if for no other reason than to take their visits and evaluate their full set of options. Takes time. But I am confident it will happen.
 
I'd add this to the discussion, between graduation and portal departures HCJC is looking at filling roughly 70 spots on the roster. Yes, the majority of portal guys right now are from Toledo, 11 out of 13 announced and 6 out of the 12 incoming freshmen were flipped from Toledo - but there are still roughly 45 spots to fill. I would think because he already had established relationships with these guys that he was able to get them to commit quicker than guys he is just now getting to know.

Also, it is a nice base on both sides of the ball to establish the culture he wants along with the majority of the guys who were here and decided to stay that seem to be high character type of guys. That's not a bad way to get a program moving on a solid footing and establishing a great culture.
 
Using the 247 class calculator we currently have a projected team score of 186.48. That would place us at 68th overall. Colorado state is
67th overall but that is with 25 recruits to our 21.

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Based on 2025 UConn >= Toledo > CSU. UConn and Toledo were more comparable while CSU was awful. mora is a great motivator and salesman and his players must really love him to transfer all the way out to colorado to play in that conference. it will be a nice conference but probably behind the American and maybe the Sun Belt. New Mexico, UNLV, and Hawaii actually finished in the top half of the MWC and are staying in the MWC. a CSU fan actually referred to the PAC 12 as regional! It covers a region alright!

UConn is a much better option in terms of schedule, exposure, location and HCJC is a better college coach in a situation with more opportunity.

Interesting UConn plays at Air Force and at Wyoming in 2026.
 
drayenob said:
Using the 247 class calculator we currently have a projected team score of 186.48. That would place us at 68th overall. Colorado state is
67th overall but that is with 25 recruits to our 21.

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Nice. I am seeing UConn currently at 124 with 133.01 and 10 Commits but that projection is nice. CSU had an early jump when they hired mora and he immediately brought UConn players but CSU has since dropped and UConn will certainly climb.
 
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Kolumbo said:
Nice. I am seeing UConn currently at 124 with 133.01 and 10 Commits but that projection is nice. CSU had an early jump when they hired mora and he immediately brought UConn players but CSU has since dropped and UConn will certainly climb.
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Yeah, 247 is notoriously slow updating non-p4 teams on their website and they are seemingly super slow updating UConn's football recruits.
 
RitzLuce1 said:
The 9 wins was due to Joe, Skyler, Cam, and the offensive line primarily. Everyone got a good hard look what we looked like without them vs Army and it wasn't pretty.
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Pass protection was pretty awesome. Running between the tackles not so much.
 
RSTuthill said:
Pass protection was pretty awesome. Running between the tackles not so much.
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The line was built to optimize the outside zone run.

Which means between the tackle running will suffer.

There's a reason why almost no team is good at all three types of blocking- pass, outside, and inside.
 
Chin Diesel said:
The line was built to optimize the outside zone run.

Which means between the tackle running will suffer.

There's a reason why almost no team is good at all three types of blocking- pass, outside, and inside.
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Would you care to go into more depth? We have heard this for a very long time. What is different in offensive linemen who possess the outside run blocking ability rather than inside run blocking? Agility more important than size, vs. size more important than agility? Quicknees of the guards so they can pull vs. size of the guards so they can open holes inside?
 
RSTuthill said:
Would you care to go into more depth? We have heard this for a very long time. What is different in offensive linemen who possess the outside run blocking ability rather than inside run blocking? Agility more important than size, vs. size more important than agility? Quicknees of the guards so they can pull vs. size of the guards so they can open holes inside?
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As best as my limited knowledge can provide, generally speaking, if you run a zone scheme the linemen need to be quicker, faster and more agile to get to the outside and create lanes. UConn's guards and center are "small" by D1 football standards. If you want to power the ball down the middle of the line, you want bigger, stronger, more physical players.

The few linemen in college who are big and strong enough to move DT's down the field, and quick and agile enough to get out in space, are out of UConn's price range.

Other than Big Ben at LT, all of UConn's OLine were lighter than normal for their position. They had height but they weighed less.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
As best as my limited knowledge can provide, generally speaking, if you run a zone scheme the linemen need to be quicker, faster and more agile to get to the outside and create lanes. UConn's guards and center are "small" by D1 football standards. If you want to power the ball down the middle of the line, you want bigger, stronger, more physical players.

The few linemen in college who are big and strong enough to move DT's down the field, and quick and agile enough to get out in space, are out of UConn's price range.

Other than Big Ben at LT, all of UConn's OLine were lighter than normal for their position. They had height but they weighed less.
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What you and I said are virtually the same except you mentioned running a zone with the OL. That made me fall off the sled. I thought on virtually every rushing play there are specific man assignments and then secondary assignments if they knock their primary assignment out of the play. For instance whatever LB they encounter if the play is designed to go through that gap. You are saying they run zones? You are referring to a pulling guard for instance?
 
Love this stuff. I am a fan, not a former player/coach, so this kind of exchange "levels up" my knowledge. Carry on Professors.
 
AllHusky said:
Love this stuff. I am a fan, not a former player/coach, so this kind of exchange "levels up" my knowledge. Carry on Professors.
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Well, I don't even know enough to be dangerous. My objective is to learn.
 
RSTuthill said:
What you and I said are virtually the same except you mentioned running a zone with the OL. That made me fall off the sled. I thought on virtually every rushing play there are specific man assignments and then secondary assignments if they knock their primary assignment out of the play. For instance whatever LB they encounter if the play is designed to go through that gap. You are saying they run zones? You are referring to a pulling guard for instance?
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This will teach you.

GDL.JPG
 
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AllHusky said:
Diversification is a sound investment philosophy. Having a 15-20 frosh class each year will be a developmental hedge against portal turnover. Candle modus operandi has shown retention of roster to be a strength.
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He has to get a roster first.
 
Thinking that last night. Stop the music now and what is your starting lineup(include portal guys without a home yet). How far are we from a “team”? Obviously there are going to be quite a few additions(and subtractions) between now and July 1, but it’ll give you an idea.

Looking at guys we are sure that will be here, we’ve only got 33 I believe. Long way to go.
 
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