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Outbound Talent to CSU vs Inbound Talent from Toledo

UConnJim said:
I appreciated what Mora did for UConn as the last 2 seasons have been a great success. But, I don't think Mora was building a sustainable model for winning and Candle is now dealing with fixing it. What do I mean? Mora really deemphasized high school recruiting and depended too much on the transfer portal. His HS recruiting class sizes his last 3 years averaged about 13 players per year which is too low in my opinion due to normal attrition which has increased due to the transfer portal. During the same 3 years, Candle brought in ~21 high school recruits per year at Toledo which I think is a much better number.
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No attack but the portal and players now getting paid is the new world order for college football. Bringing in freshman to an extent is a thing of the past sad to say. We can only hope he can bring in a dozen or more linemen from the portal for next season or we are in deep doo doo.
There is no way head coaches emphasize high school recruiting over the portal these days. Its all about the money and not having to wait for years for a player to develop. No longer a amateur sport.
 
Woof 101 said:
No attack but the portal and players now getting paid is the new world order for college football. Bringing in freshman to an extent is a thing of the past sad to say. We can only hope he can bring in a dozen or more linemen from the portal for next season or we are in deep doo doo.
There is no way head coaches emphasize high school recruiting over the portal these days. Its all about the money and not having to wait for years for a player to develop. No longer an amateur sport.
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Diversification is a sound investment philosophy. Having a 15-20 frosh class each year will be a developmental hedge against portal turnover. Candle modus operandi has shown retention of roster to be a strength.
 
Woof 101 said:
No attack but the portal and players now getting paid is the new world order for college football. Bringing in freshman to an extent is a thing of the past sad to say. We can only hope he can bring in a dozen or more linemen from the portal for next season or we are in deep doo doo.
There is no way head coaches emphasize high school recruiting over the portal these days. Its all about the money and not having to wait for years for a player to develop. No longer a amateur sport.
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No, you have to bring in HS athletes. Why? Some will develop and you need depth. If they develop, you can pay them. If they don't develop, it's off to the portal. And, HS athletes for a G6 school are cheaper than getting portal players for depth.
 
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Hskies4Ever said:
I learned this morning that one of the Toledo transfers was originally a 4 star out of high school. UConn has never gotten a 4 star out of high school.

You should not be afraid of being like Toledo.
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But, exactly like this transfer, UConn has brought in several 4-star transfers over the years.
 
As the dust settles over the next few weeks and the new players and new staff transition in to spring ball, I'd love to see the staff take a returning Husky and a transferred Toledo player from each position group and have them take ownership of the players at each position.
The Husky player can show the new transfers the ins and outs of UConn and Storrs- where to eat, who does the hair cuts, where not to park if you want to avoid tix and getting towed, etc.
The Toledo players can take the lead in show returning Huskies how coach wants stuff done for meetings, drills, workouts, check ins, etc.
Each group has something to show the other group to make the transition for all the players and staff as smooth as it can be in the portal/NIL era with a new coaching staff.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
But, exactly like this transfer, UConn has brought in several 4-star transfers over the years.
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Sure but it’s almost like you’re purposely missing the point. If Candle can get a 4 star to commit to Toledo out of high school, imagine what he can do here.
 
Hskies4Ever said:
Sure but it’s almost like you’re purposely missing the point. If Candle can get a 4 star to commit to Toledo out of high school, imagine what he can do here.
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Nah. Not missing any point. I'm more of a Mussouri "Show Me State" kinda guy than a John Lennon "Imagine" kinda guy.

I want to see the coach bring in high level talent from any source.
 
UConnJim said:
I appreciated what Mora did for UConn as the last 2 seasons have been a great success. But, I don't think Mora was building a sustainable model for winning and Candle is now dealing with fixing it. What do I mean? Mora really deemphasized high school recruiting and depended too much on the transfer portal. His HS recruiting class sizes his last 3 years averaged about 13 players per year which is too low in my opinion due to normal attrition which has increased due to the transfer portal. During the same 3 years, Candle brought in ~21 high school recruits per year at Toledo which I think is a much better number.
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Absolutely agree. Happy we had him for a stretch but he got lucky at QB (not his find by the way) and WR and he had rode that until he was going to leave at the end of this year. It was smart on his end timing wise but put us a terrible disadvantage going into this recruiting cycle.
 
Chin Diesel said:
As the dust settles over the next few weeks and the new players and new staff transition in to spring ball, I'd love to see the staff take a returning Husky and a transferred Toledo player from each position group and have them take ownership of the players at each position.
The Husky player can show the new transfers the ins and outs of UConn and Storrs- where to eat, who does the hair cuts, where not to park if you want to avoid tix and getting towed, etc.
The Toledo players can take the lead in show returning Huskies how coach wants stuff done for meetings, drills, workouts, check ins, etc.
Each group has something to show the other group to make the transition for all the players and staff as smooth as it can be in the portal/NIL era with a new coaching staff.
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Ahhh, that CULTURE thing. That is always a focus for you Mr Diesel. Have a feeling that Candle and gang are going to be good at that. Thought Mora developed a pretty damn good culture also. Previous few folks not so much.
 
You know what, I'm a little skeeved how Mora left, but he has left UConn infinitely better than when he started. Candle has a solid foundation to work with and continue the momentum. I hope he smacks the poop out of Colorado when ever they play.
 
Last season we were more talented than Toledo. The Duke game showed how good we were, the Rice and Delaware losses showed the limitations of Coach Mora. Getting all of these Toledo transfers will help ensure the step back next season is not that bad. It also helps Coach Candle set up the HS recruiting so we are not as overly reliant on the transfer portal as we were.
 
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How Sway?! said:
Last season we were more talented than Toledo. The Duke game showed how good we were, the Rice and Delaware losses showed the limitations of Coach Mora. Getting all of these Toledo transfers will help ensure the step back next season is not that bad. It also helps Coach Candle set up the HS recruiting so we are not as overly reliant on the transfer portal as we were.
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UConn was more talented on offense, but I think Toledo was more talented on defense.
 
UConnJim said:
UConn was more talented on offense, but I think Toledo was more talented on defense.
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I can agree to this, though I think the gap between our offense and their offense is bigger than our defense and their defense.
 
How Sway?! said:
I can agree to this, though I think the gap between our offense and their offense is bigger than our defense and their defense.
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If you were to look at each school's prospective 2026 prior to the coaching changes I'm not sure Toledo wasn't ahead of us on both offense and defense.

The major reason our offense was well ahead of theirs was due to exceptional seasons from our QB and our #1 WR. We knew in August that they wouldn't be back for 2026.

Toledo was better than a lot of people on this forum realize.
 
How Sway?! said:
I can agree to this, though I think the gap between our offense and their offense is bigger than our defense and their defense.
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Part of the difference (to me at least) is that our offense was one of Edwards, Fagnano or Bell away from being a cluster f%#k. Toledo had more depth of talent IMO. Do we win an FBS game with Bell injured?
 
FfldCntyFan said:
If you were to look at each school's prospective 2026 prior to the coaching changes I'm not sure Toledo wasn't ahead of us on both offense and defense.

The major reason our offense was well ahead of theirs was due to exceptional seasons from our QB and our #1 WR. We knew in August that they wouldn't be back for 2026.

Toledo was better than a lot of people on this forum realize.
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husky429 said:
Part of the difference (to me at least) is that our offense was one of Edwards, Fagnano or Bell away from being a cluster f%#k. Toledo had more depth of talent IMO. Do we win an FBS game with Bell injured?
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Even is Mora stayed, he'd have a helluva off-season replacing Fagnano and Bell. And whomever else would have entered the portal.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
If you were to look at each school's prospective 2026 prior to the coaching changes I'm not sure Toledo wasn't ahead of us on both offense and defense.

The major reason our offense was well ahead of theirs was due to exceptional seasons from our QB and our #1 WR. We knew in August that they wouldn't be back for 2026.

Toledo was better than a lot of people on this forum realize.
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That's my point lmao. Without the Toledo transfers, the step back next year would have been more severe. Not because there wasn't talent remaining, but what was being lost was generational (in UConn terms)
 
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How Sway?! said:
Last season we were more talented than Toledo. The Duke game showed how good we were, the Rice and Delaware losses showed the limitations of Coach Mora. Getting all of these Toledo transfers will help ensure the step back next season is not that bad. It also helps Coach Candle set up the HS recruiting so we are not as overly reliant on the transfer portal as we were.
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I just find this so funny. We lose a coach, so then all the good wins were because of the players and all the bad losses were because of the coach.

Really helpful analysis.
 
businesslawyer said:
I just find this so funny. We lose a coach, so then all the good wins were because of the players and all the bad losses were because of the coach.

Really helpful analysis.
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So you don't think the Delaware and Rice losses had anything to do with bad coaching? Especially on defense? Or the Cuse loss and the scared coaching in the second half?

And I did give credit to coach Mora, the Duke win showed our potential when everyone is firing on all cylinders, coaches and players.

Really helpful comment.
 
I’m really enjoying this thread. Classy educated posts with little smack talk. Keep it up BY.

I never realized Toledo was that good, but I don’t get out much. Coach Candle seems to be a hell of a coach to get so many former players. CSU hasn’t announced too many Huskies going west to smoke weed.

Regarding Cam Chadwick, I hope Vaginal Tech paid him serious money. I will miss him and wish him well.

Bleed Blue!
 
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