OT: UConn talks to Pac-12 for FB only membership

[bobbyinaz]

Interesting. Where did you see this?

It’s been reported as part of the settlement talks. The supposed negotiations include shortening the GOR to 2030 if Clemson & FSU drop their suits.

ACC, FSU, Clemson lawsuits could end in settlement amid talks around new revenue structure

The ACC, Florida State and Clemson are in the early stages of their lawsuit that might indeed end in a settlement, just not the way anybody expected.

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

 

[Patman]

all sports is a non-starter, any deal not aligning with the B12 windows is a non-starter

 

[Sky ball]

Maybe the whole school can be moved to the west coast. Where should we put it?

Yukon Territory

 

[cellocgg]

How Pac-12 could still lure AAC schools to rebuilt conference | Mailbag

"Let's say there's a school that would send shockwaves across college sports by deciding to join the Pac-12. Assuming this school is a powerhouse in at least one major sport, what would be the benefit to join? - @CelestialMosh

You are undoubtedly referring to Oregon State coach Wayne Tinkle's comment to John Canzano's Bald Faced Truth radio show that the Pac-12 was "24 hours" from landing a school that would send "shockwaves" through the industry.

Tinkle didn't name names, but we assume he meant Connecticut."

 

[uconndogs]

Tinkle!.......that's unfortunate.......

 

[Husky92]

How Pac-12 could still lure AAC schools to rebuilt conference | Mailbag

"Let's say there's a school that would send shockwaves across college sports by deciding to join the Pac-12. Assuming this school is a powerhouse in at least one major sport, what would be the benefit to join? - @CelestialMosh

You are undoubtedly referring to Oregon State coach Wayne Tinkle's comment to John Canzano's Bald Faced Truth radio show that the Pac-12 was "24 hours" from landing a school that would send "shockwaves" through the industry.

Tinkle didn't name names, but we assume he meant Connecticut."

You missed the most important line in the article:

”We have no doubt the Pac-12 was in communication with UConn — in fact, sources confirmed as much — but were the Huskies on the brink of joining? Consider us skeptical.”

 

[CL82]

Tinkle!.......that's unfortunate.......

I hear he's kind of a drip.

 

[Blades]

You missed the most important line in the article:

OR

"Also, take what coaches say about realignment with a hefty dose of skepticism. They are often the last to know." or......

Sources: UConn won’t join Pac-12, doesn’t consider conference the right fit

Though the possibility of UConn joining the Pac 12 as a football-only complement was explored last week, this will not happen. UConn sources, requesting anonymity, told The Courant the university d…

www.courant.com

 

[cellocgg]

You missed the most important line in the article:

”We have no doubt the Pac-12 was in communication with UConn — in fact, sources confirmed as much — but were the Huskies on the brink of joining? Consider us skeptical.”

I didn't miss it, I'm just full of hopium

 

[freescooter]

"Also, take what coaches say about realignment with a hefty dose of skepticism. They are often the last to know." or......

Sources: UConn won’t join Pac-12, doesn’t consider conference the right fit

Though the possibility of UConn joining the Pac 12 as a football-only complement was explored last week, this will not happen. UConn sources, requesting anonymity, told The Courant the university d…

www.courant.com

In the realignment world October 2024 might as well be 1076. Things just change so dramatically over night it seems.

 

[mike012]

I had figured Stanford or Cali said this Acc idea isn’t working let’s go back and try to make the Pac12 something

 

[freescooter]

Has the PAC’s media deal been finalized yet? That I would expect, will potentially drive others interest. If it is $10-15 million each, there will be a different level of interest than if it is $2 million. I don’t know that it will be any of those. Just examples. But I would expect a couple of MW teams will look again as will Memphis and maybe us, I read somewhere $10 million each for football plus additional for basketball bringing g the whole deal into the $14 million range. But I have no idea that’s accurate.

 

[freescooter]

Has the PAC’s media deal been finalized yet? That I would expect, will potentially drive others interest. If it is $10-15 million each, there will be a different level of interest than if it is $2 million. I don’t know that it will be any of those. Just examples. But I would expect a couple of MW teams will look again as will Memphis and maybe us, too if we can get $5 million for football with modest or no buyout

 

[Kolumbo]

for informational purposes only

 

[MilliniumPrince]

for informational purposes only

We will leap over Oregon St and Washington St once that original Pac-12 money comes off the books.

 

[huskymedic]

Keebler Elf Door <<

 

[Purple Stein]

I had figured Stanford or Cali said this Acc idea isn’t working let’s go back and try to make the Pac12 something

"Playing these schools on the Atlantic Coast is really expensive. What if we formed a conference of teams on the Pacific Coast?"

 

[freescooter]

"Playing these schools on the Atlantic Coast is really expensive. What if we formed a conference of teams on the Pacific Coast?"

It will take more than a year to reach that point but. I could see it being reached at some point. There are a few problems though. One is money. Buy outs and all that. The other is prestige. Stanford and Cal would much prefer to be associated with UNC, Duke and Virginia. Not exactly their peers since in their views those are Harvard, Yale and Princeton, but certainly better than San Diego State! It was one thing to be dealing with Washington State as Washington’s pesky little brother, but as an equal? EE gawds!

 

[Duncan Idaho]

for informational purposes only

FY2024 UConn is 20MM more.

 

[noeynox]

for informational purposes only

These figures seem made up to anyone else?

 

[noeynox]

These figures seem made up to anyone else?

I mean how is Villanova that high? As a private school, how did they acquire their numbers for that graphic?

 

[CL82]

I mean how is Villanova that high? As a private school, how did they acquire their numbers for that graphic?

As always, the devil is in the details. I'd have to look at the methodology that they used.

 

[Kolumbo]

Keebler Elf Door <<

I don't know where the legacy schools end up financially, but they are using whatever war chest they had to split the Mountain West and then get snubbed by AAC programs, for now. CR at its worst.

These figures seem made up to anyone else?

I checked a few and they seem in line with the USA Today report, which does not include privates.

NCAA Finances: Revenue & Expenses by School - USA TODAY

Which are the most profitable college athletic programs in the country? See a ranked listed, including total revenue and expenses. Brought to you by USA TODAY.

sportsdata.usatoday.com

 

[CL82]

I checked a few and they seem in line with the USA Today report, which does not include privates.

Well, no one wants to see privates in USA today.

 

[ZooCougar]

These figures seem made up to anyone else?

They are two years old. Maybe made up data from two tears ago.

The numbers jive with the CNBC article a while back.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

I mean how is Villanova that high? As a private school, how did they acquire their numbers for that graphic?

Saw multiple sources had SDSU at 67MM for FY2022 made a leap the following year.

 

[huskymedic]

These figures seem made up to anyone else?

All timing/FY reported:

Oregon State athletics reports record revenue, first surplus since 2013

The school, able to use remodeled Reser Stadium for the first time, shows significant revenue improvement during its final year in the Pac-12.

www.oregonlive.com

“OSU had a surplus of $7.43 million for fiscal year 2024, the school’s final year in the Pac-12 that ended June 30, 2024. The school reported total revenues of $120,312,417, and expenses of $112,883,911.”

 

[CL82]

All timing/FY reported:

Oregon State athletics reports record revenue, first surplus since 2013

The school, able to use remodeled Reser Stadium for the first time, shows significant revenue improvement during its final year in the Pac-12.

www.oregonlive.com

“OSU had a surplus of $7.43 million for fiscal year 2024, the school’s final year in the Pac-12 that ended June 30, 2024. The school reported total revenues of $120,312,417, and expenses of $112,883,911.”

You add say another 35 million by virtue of joining a power conference and our numbers look a whole lot more respectable. And that's before all the additional contributions, attendance, merch sales happen.

 

[bendm]

Isnt Memphis considering exactly the same thing now? PAC for football only and BE for Olympic sports? They’d have a leg up on us for a BIG12 invite if they can succeed in PAC football and BE bball for a couple years…might end up kicking ourselves for not joining the PAC for football only before it was too late.

 

[Kowalski]

Isnt Memphis considering exactly the same thing now? PAC for football only and BE for Olympic sports? They’d have a leg up on us for a BIG12 invite if they can succeed in PAC football and BE bball for a couple years…might end up kicking ourselves for not joining the PAC for football only before it was too late.

UConn should oppose adding Memphis unless they get the option, and want to, join them in the PAC for football only. If a B12 isn’t imminent, maybe they should if exit fees for a P4 are low enough.