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OT the LeBron- Stephen A Smith feud

superjohn said:
He's transparent as all hell, it's funny to me. I said I stopped watching as much NBA this season because a three point shooting contest makes for an awful product, he tells me I don't watch the sport so I don't know what's going on. Yet he's commented for years and made declarative statements for years about a player and an entire generation of basketball he wasn't around for and didn't watch.

It's the same routine with him every time and his last post is verbatim how he always ends these discussions.
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Ya he’s convinced himself that the 90s era is dinosaur basketball.
 
superjohn said:
He's transparent as all hell, it's funny to me. I said I stopped watching as much NBA this season because a three point shooting contest makes for an awful product, he tells me I don't watch the sport so I don't know what's going on. Yet he's commented for years and made declarative statements for years about a player and an entire generation of basketball he wasn't around for and didn't watch.

It's the same routine with him every time and his last post is verbatim how he always ends these discussions.
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You say the same stuff too. You’re being immature now, either move on or don’t.
 
Scoe said:
Ya he’s convinced himself that the 90s era is dinosaur basketball.
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You guys have convinced yourselves that the modern game is incomparable. You can’t have it both ways.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
You guys have convinced yourselves that the modern game is incomparable. You can’t have it both ways.
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90s era guys past their prime were literally outplaying guys in the 2010s in those guys prime, one of them saved Lebrons legacy btw.
 
KG still dominant in 2008 winning the championship, Kobe winning titles in his 30s back to back in 2010 and 11, Duncan nearly 40 winning a championship in dominating fashion in 2014, Jason Kidd at 38 winning his first championship in 2011 outplaying Lebron in moments of the finals, Jason Kidd at 40 being the defacto clutch coach of a 55 win Knicks team in 2013. Oh yeah Ray Allen nearly 40 saving Lebrons legacy.
 
Scoe said:
90s era guys past their prime were literally outplaying guys in the 2010s in those guys prime, one of them saved Lebrons legacy btw.
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And we got there. Ray saved LeBron’s legacy. That’s an alarm for someone who is arguing disingenuously.
 
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Scoe said:
Ya he’s convinced himself that the 90s era is dinosaur basketball.
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It's always the same with him. Throws out insults and then seems bothered when they're thrown back at him. He says over and over we disagree so no sense continuing this and then he keeps going. Says I need the last word and then keeps going.

Now he says we think the modern era is incomparable. That's a new one. That sure sounds like he's accusing us of arguing the point he continues to argue over and over whenever these threads pop up.
 
Ewekon said:
Stephen A. is as big of an attention 'ho as there is. Fighting LeBron is sure fire. Not interested.
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Agree, I find Stephen A to be nothing more than a theatrical blow hard. His act does not entertain me at all. I move to ESPN 2 or another sports channel.... Not that I'm a big fan of Lebron either with his ego but have to respect his ability.
 
I'm not a fan of SAS but Lebron is definitely not helping himself by going on an all out war against the media, saying Giannis would dominate in the 70s is one thing saying he would score 250 pts in a game is just a dumb statement, being dismissive of the guys from the past is just tasteless. You would never see Kobe make these kind of statements. While you should be defending your era, going after past eras while making jokes about it doesn't make you any better.

Lebron simply went on a podcast that he was gonna be given a huge platform and not face any tough questions. With the playoffs coming up why bring that distraction to your team. This has just been on going non stop drama.

It was one thing to go after SAS but then to go after Brian Windhorst calling him weird and telling lies about him is just unnecessary. This is why LeBron gets the reputation that he gets.

Does he have haters for no reason absolutely. Lebron is a good guy but he's just such a polarizing person. If he just said something to SAS behind closed doors this wouldn't be a story at all.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Tell me where I lied.

45 a game? you have nostalgia glasses. We’ve disagreed on this before though, no need to rehash.
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No, not really. He averaged 34-37 a game in the decade of his prime with a much smaller emphasis on the 3 pter and teams allowed to murder him if he set foot in the paint. Maybe you should watch a reel of Lebron flopping before you make a comment like this.
 
Deepster said:
No, not really. He averaged 34-37 a game in the decade of his prime with a much smaller emphasis on the 3 pter and teams allowed to murder him if he set foot in the paint. Maybe you should watch a reel of Lebron flopping before you make a comment like this.
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Defenders are longer and often more athletic.

I don’t hate Jordan, I like Jordan a lot and have him #2 overall for a reason. But you and others absolute disdain for LeBron is weird. Skip Bayless-esque, but at least Skip can throw him a complement from time to time.
 
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Scoe said:
I'm not a fan of SAS but Lebron is definitely not helping himself by going on an all out war against the media, saying Giannis would dominate in the 70s is one thing saying he would score 250 pts in a game is just a dumb statement, being dismissive of the guys from the past is just tasteless. You would never see Kobe make these kind of statements. While you should be defending your era, going after past eras while making jokes about it doesn't make you any better.

Lebron simply went on a podcast that he was gonna be given a huge platform and not face any tough questions. With the playoffs coming up why bring that distraction to your team. This has just been on going non stop drama.

It was one thing to go after SAS but then to go after Brian Windhorst calling him weird and telling lies about him is just unnecessary. This is why LeBron gets the reputation that he gets.

Does he have haters for no reason absolutely. Lebron is a good guy but he's just such a polarizing person. If he just said something to SAS behind closed doors this wouldn't be a story at all.
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Kobe did countless negative things that LeBron never did. LeBron was obviously hyperbolizing the 250 pt thing as well, just as all of you hyperbolize Jordan would average 45-50 in today’s game. You are being inconsistent.
 
Imagine if he could go left and if he was as athletic, fast, and skilled as the players today...


 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Defenders are longer and often more athletic.

I don’t hate Jordan, I like Jordan a lot and have him #2 overall for a reason. But you and others absolute disdain for LeBron is weird. Skip Bayless-esque, but at least Skip can throw him a complement from time to time.
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No, they're not. Michael Cooper, Joe Dumars, Gary Payton and then big men like Mutombo, Olajuwon, Ewing, David Robinson were just as good defenders as anyone in the league today, if not better.
 
Deepster said:
No, they're not. Michael Cooper, Joe Dumars, Gary Payton and then big men like Mutombo, Olajuwon, Ewing, David Robinson were just as good defenders as anyone in the league today, if not better.
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Sure, I don’t disagree. That’s why I said often. Perimeter defenders are bigger, stronger and quicker. That is who Jordan would have gone against.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Sure, I don’t disagree. That’s why I said often. Perimeter defenders are bigger, stronger and quicker. That is who Jordan would have gone against.
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Here are a few players from the last few NBA all defensive teams.

Alex Caruso
Herbert Jones
Jalen Suggs
OG Anunoby

You're not going to tell me they would cover Jordan better than the guys I listed, are you?
 
Deepster said:
Here are a few players from the last few NBA all defensive teams.

Alex Caruso
Herbert Jones
Jalen Suggs
OG Anunoby

You're not going to tell me they would cover Jordan better than the guys I listed, are you?
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If you watch you’d know that OG and Herb are absolutely elite long, athletic, quick defenders that would be elite in any era. Caruso and Suggs are a bit small for the comp, but my point remains.
 
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CardiacAndre7 said:
Sure, I don’t disagree. That’s why I said often. Perimeter defenders are bigger, stronger and quicker. That is who Jordan would have gone against.
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I only have it updated to 2022 but the league average modern era shooting guards and small forwards are shorter than in the 90's. The modern era shooting guards weigh a little more than in the 90's and the modern era small forwards weigh a little less than they did in the 90's.
 
Deepster said:
Here are a few players from the last few NBA all defensive teams.

Alex Caruso
Herbert Jones
Jalen Suggs
OG Anunoby

You're not going to tell me they would cover Jordan better than the guys I listed, are you?
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The 90's Bulls had three guys on one team who were better perimeter defenders than any of the guys you listed.
 
Dennis Rodman- 2 time defensive player of the year, 7 time all defense first team

Michael Jordan- 1 time defensive player of the year, 9 time all defense first team in his 11 seasons as a Bull

Scottie Pippen- 8 time all defense first team in his 11 seasons as a Bull
 
superjohn said:
Dennis Rodman- 2 time defensive player of the year, 7 time all defense first team

Michael Jordan- 1 time defensive player of the year, 9 time all defense first team in his 11 seasons as a Bull

Scottie Pippen- 8 time all defense first team in his 11 seasons as a Bull
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They're no OG Anunoby.

8 years in the NBA he was 2nd team defense once.....
 
Deepster said:
They're no OG Anunoby.

8 years in the NBA he was 2nd team defense once.....
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You brought up OG. There are current players with accolades, All-NBA 1st and 2nd team Defenses that I can also introduce. You brought up OG and Herb, I am of the opinion they are elite defenders. Fine if you don’t think so :)
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
You brought up OG. There are current players with accolades, All-NBA 1st and 2nd team Defenses that I can also introduce. You brought up OG and Herb, I am of the opinion they are elite defenders. Fine if you don’t think so :)
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Fine. I don't think they are, especially in comparison to the people I named.
 
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uconngb said:
This is LOL funny. The NBA is unwatchable now. Bunch of ISOs and launching 3 pointers. Are the players more athletic? Sure

Would I rather watch a replay of Bird v Dominique playoff game in 86 or 87, whenever it was? 1000%

Bird, Magic, Michael, Nique, Dr J, Gervin.....FAR more entertaining and SKILLED at basketball than today's generation. Could they run and dunk like the kids today? No. But the game was way better played and watchable back then. And it ain't even CLOSE.

You couldn't pay me to watch an NBA game today
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I watched the Celtics the other night. Nothing exciting outside the fact that they hit every trey they took. Every one was nothing but net.

Meh.
 
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