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OT: Stock trading

Stay away from Robinhood imo

If anyone is interested in options trading, I recommend signing up for unusual whales. Pretty much allows you to follow where all the money is going and make decisions based on that. Really well done.

I was just looking for an easy way to spend a few bucks on LINK. Cant seem to do so on Vanguard.
 
My best recent purchase was CIVI. My best purchase of the last year, and the one stock that has held up for me through this downturn is SWCH. Switch is a colocation provider, with some incredibly sophisticated data centers. Equinix is the leader in that space, but Switch is possibly more cutting edge. Equinix is organized as a REIT.

Discussed this with others, and it's a longer term view, but if you've watched old TV or Mrs. Maisel, you recall switchboards in the basements of business. Then it became copper wire, now wireless. Our data shows that by 2030 most enterprises want to be out of the business of on premise IT. They want it to be like phone service is now. Some compliance related issues make that impossible for some data/industries. But there is going to be growth in these massive colo facilities. Secondarily, Edge computing will require small distributed data centers spread widely. We are seeing that as well.

So, while things are pretty awful at the moment, with no clear relief in sight, the long term fundamentals for exciting change and transformation remain strong.
 
i appreciate everyones perspective. But if you do not have 10% of your portfolio in crypto you are doing yourself a disservice. Lots of blockchain companies that will do well in the long term. Don’t have to buy $$$ coins.
 
Inflationary recessions are difficult to navigate. I’ve lost a bunch this week. Sigh.
 
You haven't lost s*** until you sell.
People keep saying this, but it would take a really strong rest of 2022 to get back where we were on January 1. So I've lost the ability to convert investments to cash at the same value they had before. I do think that's something, even if I eventually get that back. I don't have it now. So if I was looking at a house on the Cape (and we are), that's now less viable than it was.

Nice day today. I wonder if this just a dead cat bounce. Hope it's a sign of resistance instead.
 
People keep saying this, but it would take a really strong rest of 2022 to get back where we were on January 1. So I've lost the ability to convert investments to cash at the same value they had before. I do think that's something, even if I eventually get that back. I don't have it now. So if I was looking at a house on the Cape (and we are), that's now less viable than it was.
The point is the same: you don't realize gains or losses until you sell.
 
The point is the same: you don't realize gains or losses until you sell.
Yes, I'm aware. But the ability to realize a gain or convert to $X cash at any given time is itself something of value. That ability has been lost or at least reduced.
 
It's times like these that people make millions. So many good companies are "on sale" right now. It might be worse before it gets better but I'm buying low here because some of these companies may not ever see these price levels again. Some look at these times as "oh crap I just lost 20%", I look at them as "where can I buy something that's been unfairly beaten down to make even more $$ in the next 5 years"
 
It's times like these that people make millions. So many good companies are "on sale" right now. It might be worse before it gets better but I'm buying low here because some of these companies may not ever see these price levels again. Some look at these times as "oh crap I just lost 20%", I look at them as "where can I buy something that's been unfairly beaten down to make even more $$ in the next 5 years"
Warren B is buying.
 
It's times like these that people make millions. So many good companies are "on sale" right now. It might be worse before it gets better but I'm buying low here because some of these companies may not ever see these price levels again. Some look at these times as "oh crap I just lost 20%", I look at them as "where can I buy something that's been unfairly beaten down to make even more $$ in the next 5 years"
I think we’ll see some short-term relief soon, maybe a green 2-3 days in a row. But after that SPY should test low $380’s and if it doesn’t hold it’ll possibly dip $10-20 lower.

+ beta stocks will trend with it.
 
People keep saying this, but it would take a really strong rest of 2022 to get back where we were on January 1. So I've lost the ability to convert investments to cash at the same value they had before. I do think that's something, even if I eventually get that back. I don't have it now. So if I was looking at a house on the Cape (and we are), that's now less viable than it was.

Nice day today. I wonder if this just a dead cat bounce. Hope it's a sign of resistance instead.

If you were planning to buy a house that money should have never been in equities anyways.
 
Like I said the other day. I think there's a risk of panic. Of absolute catastrophe. There are a few things that could mitigate the issues, and policymakers insist on doing the opposite or ignoring reality. So at the moment, we are seeing money flee a market that is already down plenty, perhaps in fear of the doomsday scenario. As soon as there are indications of stability, that the worst isn't coming (depression era event) it will flood back in.
Some of the people I listen to say the s & p is going to 3,600. Possibly 3,100 before the bleeding slows down
 
Some of the people I listen to say the s & p is going to 3,600. Possibly 3,100 before the bleeding slows down
That’s just rough technical analysis - so it’s very possible. But it could deviate from that. I have SPY going to the $355-380 range before any big moves happen (to upside or downside).
 
If you were planning to buy a house that money should have never been in equities anyways.
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It didn't go over my head. Your argument was just a silly one.

Do you technically have less money? Duh.

The point is that if you are using equities as longer-term investments like they should be and not to buy a house in a year, then you don't need it, and its value is all but guaranteed to increase in the long run. An even mildly intelligent investor knows a 10 year downturn is ALWAYS a risk and plans accordingly. Not even a risk... it's basically a guarantee. It's a mindset thing, not a literal thing.
 
If you were planning to buy a house that money should have never been in equities anyways.
Exactly right!
Yes of course. But it doesn't change the fact that your ability to liquidate and convert to cash has changed. You have lost that ability, however theoretical. When people say you lost nothing it simply isn't true. Your asset has been devalued.

Futures look like a reversal of yesterday.
 
Yes of course. But it doesn't change the fact that your ability to liquidate and convert to cash has changed. You have lost that ability, however theoretical. When people say you lost nothing it simply isn't true. Your asset has been devalued.

Futures look like a reversal of yesterday.

Really talking about two different things here. Yes, there is a loss of value whether realized or not, and there are certainly consequences to that.

As for the house analogy, I think the point was simply that if you were looking to purchase a home in the short-term, the liquidity you needed to do that shouldn't be in the equity markets.
 
Really talking about two different things here. Yes, there is a loss of value whether realized or not, and there are certainly consequences to that.

As for the house analogy, I think the point was simply that if you were looking to purchase a home in the short-term, the liquidity you needed to do that shouldn't be in the equity markets.
Yes, I know that. But some things aren't planned. So if something unexpected happened and you needed it, the money isn't there to liquidate, or at least less of it is. Bezos, Zuckerberg and Musk can shrug off losing billions in value, but ordinary people can still be impacted.

The current retirement advise has changed for example. Retirees shouldn't just be in fixed income, they lose out on too much potential appreciation over 20-30 years of retirement. These declines can impact them.
 

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