OT: Rich Rod fired at Arizona...

[WhereistheDove?]

We think we're so modern and enlightened. We're no different than the people of Salem, Mass. back in the 1680's with their witch hunts. All it takes is an accusation of racism or infidelity and you are history. Your life is ruined.

It's really scary.

We need to stop this talking point. I'd hazard that the number of truly innocent people whose lives are ruined by false accusations is nearly non-existent. I've seen coworkers go down for this stuff and it wasn't surprising for any of them to say the least.

 

[J187Money]

Section 3 in this article talks about that (likens it to Petino situation):

great roundup.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Sorry, hard to get the tenor of that, especially in this post where everything seems to be met with derision and we're one step away from some of these guys talking about "men's rights".

Just stop.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

It’s so en vogue in the era of #metoo to assume every accusation is true. Obviously I don’t know exactly what happened here (and if he did do what he’s accused of, no sympathy from me), but something smells bad here to me.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

That's not what I'm arguing. I'm arguing that when an organization like this feels there is enough to fire someone or otherwise act in such a way, there's almost certainly at least sufficient smoke behind the acquisition for them to make that determination. The idea being propagated by some people on there that he's been proven innocent is complete nonsense.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Just stop.

At least those posters have enough self-awareness to know I'm talking about them.

 

[Rocktheworld]

It was just a joke and I agree with everything you wrote.

Dude gets triggered incredibly easily; I mean look at that follow-up post. Pay him no mind

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Not sure I agree with that. I said before and still contend that it's likely his performance played some role in this, though I'd doubt it's completely one or the other.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

At least those posters have enough self-awareness to know I'm talking about them.

How dare someone question whether accusations of sexual harassment are true in 2018!!!

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Not sure I agree with that. I said before and still contend that it's likely his performance played some role in this, though I'd doubt it's completely one or the other.

You’re position on this, with all due respect, is a complete joke.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

He very well may have done everything he’s accused of. When his accuser turns over evidence and we see the text messages from the players my mind will change. Until then, I’m not going to convict him.

Who would ever think that’s a controversial stance?

 

[WhereistheDove?]

You’re position on this, with all due respect, is a complete joke.

With the reasoning being that I don't agree with your POV.... got it, thanks for your valuable criticism.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

It acknowledged that it was unable to prove her claims but that other information turned up that led them to this decision. If I don't turn up sufficient evidence to fire for cause, that doesn't mean I didn't turn up anything that would make the administrators believe the accuser enough to move on. Let's also qualify that the burden of proof of proof shouldn't be on the accuser here because she didn't bring the administrative action. It should be on her in the civil case.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

I mean I agree with what you said, though statistically the vast majority of accusations are true. Not sure how those are mutually exclusive quotes though. The university learning of her accusation is what sparked this but she doesn't have any connection to their investigation and doesn't have any burden of proof there. The burden is on the University to weigh what information they have to determine if it was credible enough to move on from him. They obviously did that. This is not a criminal case though and there's no burden of beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

[DoctorWho85]

Please come to UCONN as an OC Rich Rod

 

[WhereistheDove?]

I mean the release flat out came out and said that they became aware of information that they decided it was best to go in a different direction. I won't make an assumption as to the level of information they needed to make the decision because I plainly don't know.