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whaler11 said:
Who said Kodi is illegal?

If people want to tell themselves much of this is stealing that's fine. It's just interesting.

FWIW I think Kodi is highly overrated. It's next to useless for sports.
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To get sports on Kodi to work properly requires download speed costs that are greater than the cost to get a cable package with CBS Sports Network.
 
whaler11 said:
Who said Kodi is illegal?

If people want to tell themselves much of this is stealing that's fine. It's just interesting.

FWIW I think Kodi is highly overrated. It's next to useless for sports.
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It is for Baseball. Sucks. UConn hoop too
For football, I watch the Dolphins on It and dropped the NFL TICKET on DTV. It is okay, not great, buffering and all.
 
whaler11 said:
Who said Kodi is illegal?

If people want to tell themselves much of this is stealing that's fine. It's just interesting.

FWIW I think Kodi is highly overrated. It's next to useless for sports.
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If you think its useless for sports, you don't have the right add on.

It probably should be illegal, but those things have interesting end user agreements. If you go to total stream tv. com, they sell a superior product. The firesticks simply don't come close to what they offer.

But.... they will never substitute a paid service to me. Its why I pay for Vue. Not always in the mood to fart around with the thing.
 
noeynox said:
If you think its useless for sports, you don't have the right add on.

It probably should be illegal, but those things have interesting end user agreements. If you go to total stream tv. com, they sell a superior product. The firesticks simply don't come close to what they offer.

But.... they will never substitute a paid service to me. Its why I pay for Vue. Not always in the mood to fart around with the thing.
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I've tried all the add ons. I find streaming sports to be miserable experience anyway.

You end up a minute or two behind and phone updates, twitter and texts blow things up.

I got an email that made mlb.tv $54 for the whole season. It's not like you can't find some deals.

Clearly a lot of people disagree with me but the X1 experience is 100x better than piecing things together and it's worth the net $100 or so it costs to me.
 
huskymedic said:
Minuscule piece if you are a Yankee/Nets fan.
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That is decision that has to be made. Are you against UConn by supporting the anti UConn ACC YES network or do you really want to watch the Yankees and say UConn can shove it as I am paying for this pro ACC network.
 
whalerfan said:
After 18 months of rabbit ears we ventured back in with Playstation Vue. We had Hulu and Netflix but dropped Hulu. Our plan is $29.99 a month. No tax. For $5 more you get NFL Network and YES. I don't care about the latter as I'm a Mets fan. I'd suggest the Amazon Fire Stick (with Kodi) to see all the shows on the streaming channels and live events.
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What a bunch of idiots! Why post this stuff online. What do you think is going to happen?
 
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Planning to drop my Comcast cable and phone we never use. Keep 100 MB internet add Hulu Live for $40/month. Includes all the sports I watch except sny. I can live with that at an $80/month savings.
 
I got on board with the Directv Now package through ATT in January, $35 indefinitely for 100 or so channels. I think it's missing CBS and Fox, but have rabbit ears for those. Netflix and Hulu too. Total is about $50 or so. Anything that's not covered by those I'll find alternative ways of watching. Don't feel bad about streaming/downloading, your money is better spent elsewhere.
 
So funny - was at a party at my neighbor's house on Saturday night. One of his buddies came over with a "jailbroken" Amazon fire stick with Kodi on it - running Exodus. Showed him how it worked, etc. I tried to stay out of it, but once they asked me if I wanted one and I said no - they asked why.

Basically I said this: Do what ever you want. Nothing is going to happen to you. But it isn't legal, and ultimately it duck*s people over. Who? Never the execs, or the major talent. But some poor $40K/year schmuck working his ass off in Burbank - that's the guy that gets fired when people steal shit. You are never sticking it to the "man" - you are sticking it to someone just like you, or less fortunate than you, in most cases. So if you are good with that? So be it - I'll go to the theater if I want to see something new.

BTW - went and saw Alien - Covenant yesterday - WAY better than I thought, and no way it would have been anywhere near as good at home, even for free.
 
J187Money said:
So funny - was at a party at my neighbor's house on Saturday night. One of his buddies came over with a "jailbroken" Amazon fire stick with Kodi on it - running Exodus. Showed him how it worked, etc. I tried to stay out of it, but once they asked me if I wanted one and I said no - they asked why.

Basically I said this: Do what ever you want. Nothing is going to happen to you. But it isn't legal, and ultimately it ****s people over. Who? Never the execs, or the major talent. But some poor $40K/year schmuck working his ass off in Burbank - that's the guy that gets fired when people steal ****. You are never sticking it to the "man" - you are sticking it to someone just like you, or less fortunate than you, in most cases. So if you are good with that? So be it - I'll go to the theater if I want to see something new.

BTW - went and saw Alien - Covenant yesterday - WAY better than I thought, and no way it would have been anywhere near as good at home, even for free.
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Your ethical point is a perfectly valid one, but can you please stop repeating the same falsehood about streaming being illegal. Multiple people have corrected it and even posted a source that being the viewer of a stream is not illegal. Plain and simple. You repeating the same thing again and again does not make it true and it doesn't add to your credibility.
 
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JMick said:
oh no, people on the internet are talking about things that are legal! the FBI is going to knock down their door any minute now!
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Lots of people got fired over pictures they posted on Facebook. They thought nothing was going to happen to. If you want to, it's fine... but why bother. I mean I know the likelihood of a potential employer combing through the Boneyard for posts is pretty slim... but I still don't think it's a great idea.
 
J187Money said:
I see your point. And I don't know if it is illegal to "watch" bootleg streams of sports - or if it is just illegal for the one providing the illegal stream. But even I accept that it is immoral to use ad blockers, I don't equate that with straight theft of content - which I find worse.
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FYI - this is what I said. So I'm not sure where you think I've said that the viewer is breaking the law.
 
WhereistheDove? said:
Your ethical point is a perfectly valid one, but can you please stop repeating the same falsehood about streaming being illegal. Multiple people have corrected it and even posted a source that being the viewer of a stream is not illegal. Plain and simple. You repeating the same thing again and again does not make it true and it doesn't add to your credibility.
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I don't think the law is settled... but technically the way I read it based on this article.. if you buffer any video at all... by the letter of the law you're probably doing something illegal. Watch a video in a browser and depending on the streaming technology you could be downloading tons of little *.ts files that can hang out on your computer for an indefinite period of time. You've got no idea what that plug-in in Kodi is doing. What it's storing... and what code it's running... which opens you open to all kinds of other issues.

Just not worth it to me.
 
J187Money said:
FYI - this is what I said. So I'm not sure where you think I've said that the viewer is breaking the law.
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Because you just said again that it was illegal in your latest post and yes, I am happy, seeing as that distinction is a huge one as it relates to this discussion.
 
IMind said:
Lots of people got fired over pictures they posted on Facebook. They thought nothing was going to happen to. If you want to, it's fine... but why bother. I mean I know the likelihood of a potential employer combing through the Boneyard for posts is pretty slim... but I still don't think it's a great idea.
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What on earth are you talking about?
 
WhereistheDove? said:
Because you just said again that it was illegal in your latest post and yes, I am happy, seeing as that distinction is a huge one as it relates to this discussion.
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I said "it isn't legal" - which is pretty vague. They all admitted as much - saying that the streams get taken down all the time. Nobody thinks the activity is legal in its entirety, even if the viewer might not be breaking the law.
 
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WhereistheDove? said:
What on earth are you talking about?
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Follow the thread back. Basically my point is, posting about doing something illegal or morally questionable on any form of social media has zero upside. Even on a semi-anonymous sports message board. I've known people who have lost their jobs for less. Like I said though the likelihood of any negative consequences is nearly 0.. but why bother.
 
IMind said:
Follow the thread back. Basically my point is, posting about doing something illegal or morally questionable on any form of social media has zero upside. Even on a semi-anonymous sports message board. I've known people who have lost their jobs for less. Like I said though the likelihood of any negative consequences is nearly 0.. but why bother.
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What companies have fired someone over streaming a TV show? Please I'm dying to hear it so I never apply for a job there
 
JMick said:
What companies have fired someone over streaming a TV show? Please I'm dying to hear it so I never apply for a job there
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I've worked for some in the software industry that have taken IP property rights very seriously. Of course I've also worked at Fortune 500s that regularly install pirated software... I'm not going to beat this horse to death though. I just disagree with some of you guys. :-)
 
IMind said:
I've worked for some in the software industry that have taken IP property rights very seriously. Of course I've also worked at Fortune 500s that regularly install pirated software... I'm not going to beat this horse to death though. I just disagree with some of you guys. :)
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I think the time for beating the horse to death is over. We're now attempting to ensure even coverage of horse guts within the grout.
 
Without a concerted industry effort the viewer would be safe. The RIAA stopped suing people, even though it was wildly profitable. Too much backlash. The MPAA won't even try.
 
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JMick said:
What companies have fired someone over streaming a TV show? Please I'm dying to hear it so I never apply for a job there
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Depends on the show and the content. Ive seen and heard some people facing disciplinary action up to and including termination over some of the most trivial things being posted on media such as facebook and on some blogs. Recruiters are told to search all sorts of things when hiring so even the smartest kid out of an Ivy League school may find themselves shut out due to what they may thought to be an apparent harmless silly college posting.
 
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