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OT - possible NCAA grad transfer rule change

Shit. I thought they were contemplating loosening the rules.
 
N.C.A.A. Clock May Be Running Out on Graduate Transfers

Vote in 2 weeks. Proposing teams that take a grad transfer will lose a scholarship the following season if the grad transfer doesn’t earn graduate degree in 1 year. Thoughts?

That's one of the craziest things I've ever heard relating to colleges.

Does the NCAA know there are a great many MA degrees that require more than 1 year of study?
 
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NCAA is a clueless bunch of morons headed by the biggest village idiot
God, the ineptitude is scary - mirrors those in government offices in CT

This rule change is being pushed by the schools...
 
Totally disregards the player as individual. Once you graduate, you are free to go on to any other school or endeavor. Essentially they are devaluing graduation.
 
Totally disregards the player as individual. Once you graduate, you are free to go on to any other school or endeavor. Essentially they are devaluing graduation.
Sure, but should you be able to pick any school you want and play basketball for them? Personally, I am not a fan of the grad transfer thing and view it simply as a loop hole. Reid Travis left Stanford to go to Kentucky. That was all about basketball and gaming the system. Not about education. I am cool if this joke stops.
 
Sure, but should you be able to pick any school you want and play basketball for them? Personally, I am not a fan of the grad transfer thing and view it simply as a loop hole. Reid Travis left Stanford to go to Kentucky. That was all about basketball and gaming the system. Not about education. I am cool if this joke stops.
lol, nothing about college football and college basketball is about education.
 
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Who is worried about education? There should be one transfer rule whether you graduate or not.
Sure, but should you be able to pick any school you want and play basketball for them? Personally, I am not a fan of the grad transfer thing and view it simply as a loop hole. Reid Travis left Stanford to go to Kentucky. That was all about basketball and gaming the system. Not about education. I am cool if this joke stops.
 
Originally, the grad transfer rule was for a kid to earn a degree in something the original school didn't offer. They made it about education. I am saying not sitting out a year like most transfers is a loop hole. Graduates should be free to go where they want but they should be held to the same standard as an undergraduate. This rule really hurts a mid major and at the very least, sitting out a year would probably influence some of these kids to stay at the school they are at.
 
Originally, the grad transfer rule was for a kid to earn a degree in something the original school didn't offer. They made it about education. I am saying not sitting out a year like most transfers is a loop hole. Graduates should be free to go where they want but they should be held to the same standard as an undergraduate. This rule really hurts a mid major and at the very least, sitting out a year would probably influence some of these kids to stay at the school they are at.
If you think the grad transfer rule was ever about an athlete earning a degree in something they couldn't get at the original school you're beyond naive
 
If you think the grad transfer rule was ever about an athlete earning a degree in something they couldn't get at the original school you're beyond naive
Bingo!!! Thats the point and its why the grad transfer rule is a farce. Those are their words, not mine. Its why I cringe every time they refer to the players in those post game NCAA press conferences as "student athletes". Its never about the kids education. So why have a different rule in place for some kid who graduated in three years?
 
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Dumb, stupid ridiculous. Soooooo many things could happen to prevent that from happening.
 
Bingo!!! Thats the point and its why the grad transfer rule is a farce. Those are their words, not mine. Its why I cringe every time they refer to the players in those post game NCAA press conferences as "student athletes". Its never about the kids education. So why have a different rule in place for some kid who graduated in three years?
It's only a farce because it's a joke that they limit the other players who transfer
 
It's only a farce because it's a joke that they limit the other players who transfer
Fair enough. The hell with structure. Personally, I believe these kids deserve compensation. Oddly, I feel like the commitment to the school is something they should honor. Live with the decisions you make. In that instance where its not a good fit or if a better basketball school comes calling, they should have to sit out a year.

Call me old school.
 
Fair enough. The hell with structure. Personally, I believe these kids deserve compensation. Oddly, I feel like the commitment to the school is something they should honor. Live with the decisions you make. In that instance where its not a good fit or if a better basketball school comes calling, they should have to sit out a year.

Call me old school.
Agreed on compensation. Personally I just have a hard time making a kid sit a year when he transfers when coaches can leave at any time without any penalty
 
Fair enough. The hell with structure. Personally, I believe these kids deserve compensation. Oddly, I feel like the commitment to the school is something they should honor. Live with the decisions you make. In that instance where its not a good fit or if a better basketball school comes calling, they should have to sit out a year.

Call me old school.
Surely the coaches should also have to live with the decisions they made or sit out a year as well?
 
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Agreed on compensation. Personally I just have a hard time making a kid sit a year when he transfers when coaches can leave at any time without any penalty
Surely the coaches should also have to live with the decisions they made or sit out a year as well?
Well, I do believe coaches(and programs) should be held to a similar standard. But this is comparing apples to oranges. Why should Nate Oats be penalized for accepting a better job? So, in that case, any kid who committed to Nate Oats should be able to leave without penalty. Or if a school gets a tournament ban for activity prior to the kid signing his letter. But it still should have nothing to do with whether they graduated or not. Letting kids transfer with no recourse will be pure chaos. If so, whats stopping John Calipari from recruiting("paying") a top player from the Big East, AAC, or Pac12 when he missses on a 5 star to Duke? The trickle down effect will crush the sport.

I am all for player rights. However, hypothetically, I am fairly certain people on this boad starting with the two of you would be livid if a healthy AG decided to transfer to Kentucky because the starting PG declared for the draft.
 
Well, I do believe coaches(and programs) should be held to a similar standard. But this is comparing apples to oranges. Why should Nate Oats be penalized for accepting a better job? So, in that case, any kid who committed to Nate Oats should be able to leave without penalty. Or if a school gets a tournament ban for activity prior to the kid signing his letter. But it still should have nothing to do with whether they graduated or not. Letting kids transfer with no recourse will be pure chaos. If so, whats stopping John Calipari from recruiting("paying") a top player from the Big East, AAC, or Pac12 when he missses on a 5 star to Duke? The trickle down effect will crush the sport.

I am all for player rights. However, hypothetically, I am fairly certain people on this boad starting with the two of you would be livid if a healthy AG decided to transfer to Kentucky because the starting PG declared for the draft.
I just don't see a difference between Nate Oats signing a contract at Buffalo, exceeding expectations and getting a bigger job for more money at Alabama and a kid going to Bucknell, exceeding expectations and playing really well, and getting a scholarship to Kentucky. If there's no reason for a coach to be penalized then I don't see the logic for an athlete to be penalized
 
I just don't see a difference between Nate Oats signing a contract at Buffalo, exceeding expectations and getting a bigger job for more money at Alabama and a kid going to Bucknell, exceeding expectations and playing really well, and getting a scholarship to Kentucky. If there's no reason for a coach to be penalized then I don't see the logic for an athlete to be penalized
Who said this kid exceeded expectations. Because he graduated there is a loophole in the rule that suggests he doesn’t have to sit out. It inflates his value. I am almost certain if that same kid from bucknell was a junior and had to sit out neither he nor Kentucky would be interested. The reason the schools wants change is because this infuriates mid major coaches. It makes the playing field even less fair.

I totally see your point though that coaches should be held accountable to.
 
I thought the NCAA wasn't going to get into the education side of things and leave that up to the schools?
 
First of all it’s more about education than you think.
The two requirements for a grad transfer are a BS/BA degree and an unused year of eligibility. How many one and dones end up graduating
So the NCAA wants to punish kids who not only graduate but kids that lost a year , usual due to injury.
That sounds fair .
 
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