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Very Sad....

but sadly not surprising.

He had about 5 minutes in Almost Famous and was the best part of the movie.
 
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he was a great, great actor who was incredibly versatile. I was huge fan b/c he could play someone sympathetic, could be a good sideguy, or be an incredibly creepy bad guy. Not many actors can do that.
 
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Sounds like he overdosed on heroin perhaps. Was trying to overcome drug issues recently.
 
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...my 16 year old just came in the room and told me the 3rd "Hunger Games" flick is now screwed.
 
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Sounds like he overdosed on heroin perhaps. Was trying to overcome drug issues recently.
WSJ reported he was found w/ needle in his arm and heroin nearby. Had been in rehab last May. Still a shock, though.
 
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God dammit. He was one of the best out there. Before the devil knows your dead was my favorite movie with him.
 
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The art movie where he plays a grieving widower who finds solace in a decent into
sniffing a variety of products to get high.,introduced me to him.
The depth of that character and the darkness of that movie were incredible.
You knew this guy had a gift now we he was drawing on his own experience.
 
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That kind of money, that kind of talent and you're found with a needle in your arm? Pretty screwed up………

Sad
 
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So long Scotty

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Very sad news
 

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He spent most of 2 decades not using. Heroin is a b*tch.
Great actor.
 

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CAHUSKY said:
Addiction don't discriminate
Well said. That's it in a nutshell. 17 years ago this week my 25 year old brother was found in the Hartford Sheraton Lobby bathroom with a needle in his arm, dead. He had completed a 120 day in-patient rehab 3 days before. We come from a solid family, my parents raised him right. As much as it hurt losing my brother I have just as much pain watching my parents tortured over losing a child. They didn't deserve that. It can get anyone.
 
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West. I am so sorry. Heartbreaking... parents worse nightmare
 

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Well said. That's it in a nutshell. 17 years ago this week my 25 year old brother was found in the Hartford Sheraton Lobby bathroom with a needle in his arm, dead. He had completed a 120 day in-patient rehab 3 days before. We come from a solid family, my parents raised him right. As much as it hurt losing my brother I have just as much pain watching my parents tortured over losing a child. They didn't deserve that. It can get anyone.

wishing you and your family peace. Similar experiences in my life but thank God my brothers remain in recovery.
 

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PSH has chased his last tornado
 
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He leaves 3 young children. I'm all for accolades on his talent as an actor but what he did was to ruin his kids lives forever, and cause his parents and his partner to be heartbroken, and that can't be fixed. Maybe it was out of his control and maybe it wasn't. This happened to a friend of mine's son. He didn't use for a long time and then when he did his body had lost it's tolerance for it and it killed him. His father's take was that "he made a big mistake and did something stupid". I would put heroin dealers in jail mandatory for 20 years, users 10.
 

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He leaves 3 young children. I'm all for accolades on his talent as an actor but what he did was to ruin his kids lives forever, and cause his parents and his partner to be heartbroken, and that can't be fixed. Maybe it was out of his control and maybe it wasn't. This happened to a friend of mine's son. He didn't use for a long time and then when he did his body had lost it's tolerance for it and it killed him. His father's take was that "he made a big mistake and did something stupid". I would put heroin dealers in jail mandatory for 20 years, users 10.

Horrible, horrible tragedy absolutely, and since I personally lost a family member to this insidious drug you would think i would agree with you on your stern wants for the punishment of users and dealers.

I could not disagree more.

If after 40 years that anyone cannot see that the war on drugs as been a total, and utter failure, I question their touch with reality. Since the war on drugs has started prices have gone down, supply has gone up and purities have skyrocketed. Is this really working?

The laws are already so draconian in regards to drugs with mandatory minimum sentences that people arrested with personal use amounts are in many cases sentenced to longer sentences that pedophiles and rapists. That is not hyperbole. It is not stopping people and the only people who get rich off it are organized crime, drug cartels, and "for profit" prisons.

I don't have the answers, and I have a feeling I am opening up a can of worms here. But one answer that I can state unequivocally is that the current model DOES NOT work at all. The proof is in the pudding. It is time to try something different, and maybe just maybe we are starting to see the tide turn toward some common sense with the recent legalization of marijuana in Colorado and Washington.

Now, I get that "hard" drugs are a different animal than marijuana, and far more dangerous, but maybe just maybe they would be less dangerous in a legal setting where qualities and purity's are controlled, that they are not cut with dangerous garbage, and that resulting sin taxing (and the billions saved by not jailing users) could pay for treatment and education. It is proven that even if it is illegal with harsh crimes, plenty of people are going to use anyway.

It is fact that an extra strong batch of heroin cut with fetanyl has killed dozens and dozens up and down the east coast the last couple weeks. (you can google it) It is very likely that PSH got part of this batch. If this was done in a controlled manner where consistent strength was prescribed, the risk of OD goes down greatly. You simply dont know what you are getting on the street.

I don't know though, I vacillate on the topic of hard drug legalization, but just putting a thought out there as again, the current model frustrates the hell out of me. I am not naive enough to think that "legalize everything" is the absolute answer. I just know that some serious dialogue has to be started somewhere.
 
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