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OT: Pedro Morales passes away @ 76.

Madmannsucks said:
OK so Putski dd not come to WWF until 1974. Putski debuted in the World Wide Wrestling Federation (WWWF) in 1974.[2] While in the WWWF, Putski feuded with many wrestlers, including Bruiser Brody, Stan Hansen and Ivan Koloff.[2] Iron Sheik was much later to exploit the Iran conflict. Taking the name The Great Hossein Arab, he won his first title, the Canadian Tag Team Championship, with partner the Texas Outlaw. He wrestled in Japan against the likes of Steve Day and Antonio Inoki in 1978. In 1979 he caught the eye of the World Wrestling Federation (WWF) where he made his debut in 1979 and won the first-ever Battle Royal in Madison Square Garden, New York City. This earned him a title shot at then-champion Bob Backlund, who pinned him later that night in a 30-minute battle.[10] He later feuded with Chief Jay Strongbow and Bruno Sammartino before leaving in 1980.[11]
So now we have your own words as proof you watched well into your 20's.
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Well into my 20s? I turned 16 in 1974. And as I said, I thought it was Koloff, but I'm not 100% of that. Could have been Nikolai Volkoff. I just know it was a bad guy. Never heard of Steve Day, and unless Inoki is the guy who fought Ali, never heard of him either. I'm aware of a lot of top names from osmosis, not from actively following the WWF. Additionally, I worked right next door to WWF offices when it was on Summer St. so I had to listen to WWF talk a lot and I knew who a lot of the guys were because it was a big deal to co-workers, and I'd run into them at the convenience store next door.
 
storrsroars said:
Well into my 20s? I turned 16 in 1974. And as I said, I thought it was Koloff, but I'm not 100% of that. Never heard of Steve Day, and unless Inoki is the guy who fought Ali, never heard of him either. I'm aware of a lot of top names from osmosis, not from actively following the WWF. Additionally, I worked right next door to WWF offices when it was on Summer St. so I had to listen to WWF talk a lot and I knew who a lot of the guys were because it was a big deal to co-workers, and I'd run into them at the convenience store next door.
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OK...slow your roll...it was a joke, nothing more.
 
August_West said:
There pretty much is no story telling these days, neither in the ring, or by long term storylines.

In ring is pretty much a high spot sequence these days, and the days of slow burning storylines for weeks even months leading to feuds is really kaput.

Thats why I watch those early 80's territory episodes in sequence. Its really like an athletic male soap opera (and kinda geigh ;-) but I appreciate the craft.
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What the hell was up with my man, Adrian Adonis becoming Adorable Adrian?!?!? That was messed up!!!
 
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August_West said:
two of those 3 guys never held the IC belt you dope.

The IC Belt in the 80's was fantastic. Because you would get title changes.

Back then the World Champion belt NEVER changed Backlaund had it for years and then Hogan for years.

the IC belt put some drama on the undercard and some of the best WWF matches from 79- to say 89 were for that belt.

the best match on the card of world renown WM3 (Hulk Andre) was the Steamboat Savage match for the IC.

THIS is an impressive roster of title holders

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Where did I say they held the belt? I said the IC belt opened the door for the ethnic stereotype characters....while a generic champ like Backlund had the real belt.

The truth of it all is......

Ric Flair >>>>>>>>>>>>> All others
 
noeynox said:
Back when Vince McMahon was a nondescript announcer.
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He was great as an announcer. He still might be my favorite play by play guy. But I was a 90s kid.
 
August_West said:
There pretty much is no story telling these days, neither in the ring, or by long term storylines.

In ring is pretty much a high spot sequence these days, and the days of slow burning storylines for weeks even months leading to feuds is really kaput.

Thats why I watch those early 80's territory episodes in sequence. Its really like an athletic male soap opera (and kinda geigh ;-) but I appreciate the craft.
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They rehash old ones.

Becky is doing an “authority” story to try and make her the next scsa
 
August_West said:
There pretty much is no story telling these days, neither in the ring, or by long term storylines.

In ring is pretty much a high spot sequence these days, and the days of slow burning storylines for weeks even months leading to feuds is really kaput.

Thats why I watch those early 80's territory episodes in sequence. Its really like an athletic male soap opera (and kinda geigh ;-) but I appreciate the craft.
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Btw gotta rewatch the nwo stuff man.

The sting stuff In particular.

The single best Story in pro wrestling history. Dude didn’t speak for over a year and was the #2 seller in wrestling gear among either company.

I’m not sure there’s ever been another wrestler ever who could pull that off.
 
August_West said:
two of those 3 guys never held the IC belt you dope.

The IC Belt in the 80's was fantastic. Because you would get title changes.

Back then the World Champion belt NEVER changed Backlaund had it for years and then Hogan for years.

the IC belt put some drama on the undercard and some of the best WWF matches from 79- to say 89 were for that belt.

the best match on the card of world renown WM3 (Hulk Andre) was the Steamboat Savage match for the IC.

THIS is an impressive roster of title holders

View attachment 39577
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Great match.

Best match at wm 10 was the ladder match for the IC title (rematch wasn’t as good either)
 
He was one of my top 5 favorites. First person to win the triple crown back in the old WWWF days.
 
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I was at WM XI. Because of my job, we(my son and I got to meet many, many guests. (Sean Michaels, Freddy Blassie, Rowdy Rod, Pam Anderson,Hillbilly Jim, Ken Norton Jr, and so many more. Also when I moved to Denver, my friend worked for Awesome Promotions. The boss(Zane)promoted the 1st WM and at this time promoted WCW. Once I went to dinner with Flair and Heenan. Met so many, Paul Wight(Now Big Show) Rey Mysterio Jr, Hulk, Hall Nash DDP to name but a few. My son was around 12 and went up to Deal Malenko in the locker room and asked for an autograph. He calmly replied..."no".
 
storrsroars said:
I grew up in Stamford and we all knew of and watched Mil and all the libradores. Might've been UHF channel 49 for all I remember, but Lucha Libre was THE wrestling show to watch. Never heard of Pedro.
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Yeah channel 49. Remember Bulldog Brower? Liked him and Putski.
 
Madmannsucks said:
I was at WM XI. Because of my job, we(my son and I got to meet many, many guests. (Sean Michaels, Freddy Blassie, Rowdy Rod, Pam Anderson,Hillbilly Jim, Ken Norton Jr, and so many more. Also when I moved to Denver, my friend worked for Awesome Promotions. The boss(Zane)promoted the 1st WM and at this time promoted WCW. Once I went to dinner with Flair and Heenan. Met so many, Paul Wight(Now Big Show) Rey Mysterio Jr, Hulk, Hall Nash DDP to name but a few. My son was around 12 and went up to Deal Malenko in the locker room and asked for an autograph. He calmly replied..."no".
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The fact that he got malenko is speak is more impressive.

Dude could give mimes a run for their money.

Great performer but his absolute lack of personality cost him. Despite consistently having A caliber matches
 
If you get a chance, youtube Ox Baker and listen to his promos. His look is awesome and mic skills were very impressive for the day.
 
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Deepster said:
Where did I say they held the belt? I said the IC belt opened the door for the ethnic stereotype characters....while a generic champ like Backlund had the real belt.

The truth of it all is.

Ric Flair >>>>>>>>>>>>> All others
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No it didnt the Ethnic stereotype characters were long a Staple Of Vince Sr.s WWWF way before 1979. Its how he ran his territory.
ALWAYS. the IC belt didnt open any doors, what it was for was it gave the babyfaces a title to chase, because they were only booking heels against Backlund. But that Ethnic Booking was Vince Sr. Always.

I mean Hulk got the last name "Hogan" on his first wwwf run when he was a heel and managed by Blassie because Vince Sr. needed "an Irish Heel"

that was before the IC title.


But yes Flair is better than everyone.
 
August_West said:
No it didnt the Ethnic stereotype characters were long a Staple Of Vince Sr.s WWWF way before 1979. Its how he ran his territory.
ALWAYS. the IC belt didnt open any doors, what it was for was it gave the babyfaces a title to chase, because they were only booking heels against Backlund. But that Ethnic Booking was Vince Sr. Always.

I mean Hulk got the last name "Hogan" on his first wwwf run when he was a heel and managed by Blassie because Vince Sr. needed "an Irish Heel"

that was before the IC title.


But yes Flair is better than everyone.
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Vince jr does it too.

Disciples of apocalypse
Los boricuas
Nation of domination
Papa shango
 
the Q said:
Vince jr does it too.

Disciples of apocalypse
Los boricuas
Nation of domination
Papa shango
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Sure. Its simple and successful but its not really the same nationally as it was regionally. Different Era, different time.
 
While I don't follow WWE, an article on Rinku Singh came through on one of my baseball sites today. For
who don't recall the name, he was one of the two pitchers the Pirates signed from India and was the subject of the movie Million Dollar Arm. He's now with the WWE, which apparently hopes to get fans from India.

And man, has he gotten huge.
Rinku.JPG
 
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storrsroars said:
While I don't follow WWE, an article on Rinku Singh came through on one of my baseball sites today. For
who don't recall the name, he was one of the two pitchers the Pirates signed from India and was the subject of the movie Million Dollar Arm. He's now with the WWE, which apparently hopes to get fans from India.

And man, has he gotten huge.
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Yeah there’s been a big push by wwe To internatio.

India and Saudi Arabia.

Japan loves pro wrestling too but they have their own circuit there.
 
Did anyone else read this as Pedro Martinez for a split second? Nearly had a heart attack
 
the Q said:
Yeah there’s been a big push by wwe To internatio.

India and Saudi Arabia.

Japan loves pro wrestling too but they have their own circuit there.
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which is 1000 times better than WWE.

WWE unwatchable these days and lord knows I try.
 
August_West said:
which is 1000 times better than WWE.

WWE unwatchable these days and lord knows I try.
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So bad.

When Becky Lynch is the fan favorite you know it’s a terrible product
 
August_West said:
which is 1000 times better than WWE.

WWE unwatchable these days and lord knows I try.
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Because wwe has zero competition and being publicly traded means they need to do pg and other lame garbage rather than the attitude era.

I’m rooting hard for aew to become a serious player
 
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August_West said:
which is 1000 times better than WWE.

WWE unwatchable these days and lord knows I try.
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Vince has to be concerned about the lack of hype and story heading into wrestlemania.

I mean, there’s just nothing out there.

I guess he deserves this for burying Joe and Braun after one of the best matches wwe had in years for summerslam 17
 
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