OT/OT: National Anthem - H.S. & College Athletes - USA Basketball & Olympics

[BroadwayVa]

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While I'm not much of a Holly fan I do appreciate her decision--I'm sure she made known to her team of their rights under the Constitution.
And while she and/or the University expect them to accept the decision--they have the right, maybe duty, to express their beliefs outside of the BB program.

 

[BroadwayVa]

Undoubtedly true. But that does not invalidate the feelings of the larger majority of veterans who may be disappointed/offended/insulted.

I only speak for me--but as an American--if you believe in the words written by the founding Fathers--Protest (which came with the birth of the USA) is accepted by the first amendment--no one has to like protest, I don't, but American thrive on the ability to protest as a right. Take away a right from SOME--soon it will be ALL.

 

[j66kicker]

In an interview with Dori Monson on KIRO radio in Seattle, the Republican presidential candidate said that maybe America just isn’t the right place for the quarterback.

“I think it’s personally not a good thing, I think it’s a terrible thing. And, you know, maybe he should find a country that works better for him. Let him try, it won’t happen.”

Will the next President ask Colin to find another country to live?

Well, he says he'll be gearing up his deportation machinery, so who knows?

 

[cbraarj]

Why cant people protest but still honor the Men and Women of Our Great Nation that have fought for Our Freedoms over 240 years. This will never go away unfortunately because there will always be people that in their opinion think that nothing has ever changed. If people think this way today then open your eyes because in 2008 Barack Obama was elected President. Our Armed Forces should be treated with unconditional love! They fought for our flag, Constitution and the citizens of The United States. Also the right for people to protest. So Respect these Soldiers because without them there would be no rights for any of us !

 

[cbraarj]

Willie Gold I have stood for the Black National Athem. I am a White Guy who grew up respecting everyone! You asking that question shows me you didnt!

 

[meyers7]

When the national anthem is played I stand, take off my hat if wearing one, and basically stand at parade rest. It would never enter my mind to place my hand over my heart.

Why would that never enter your mind?

 

[bags27]

Good picture here from a recent Hartford Current article that shows Gabby during the national anthem during the Pace game.

UConn Women's Insider: Geno Likes To Toughen Them Up Early, So No Surprises Later

Had she taken a knee, I personally would have been offended. I also would have been surprised, because she is representing her team and her university in these situations, and I don't think the coaching staff would want to see a political statement so overt as that. As it is, she's probably had discussions with the coaches about this, and I think they've struck the right balance in terms of how she could express herself without going too far. We all know Geno was supportive of his Olympians such as Tina Charles and her involvement in this movement over the summer, and yet those players never did anything (to my knowledge) that could be interpreted by some as disrespectful while wearing the Team USA uniform. I would chalk this up to another example of how good Geno and his coaching staff are with these great young women.

An extremely difficult, emotional issue for everyone of us. We all bring different perspectives and no one is going to convince another. While I struggle with this, too, I think BostonCanuck best voices my position. We don't know Gabby's personal history, what brings her to make her decisions, but we do trust Geno & Company to come to do the best for the team and the University, so we should assume that Geno has listened to Gabby and has agreed that this is the best solution for everyone. I'm confident that the team supports Gabby's decision just as Gabby supports the decision of the rest of her teammates.

 

[lne001]

Why would that never enter your mind?

To me it has always been a foolish gesture, placing your hand over the muscle that pumps blood through the body (and which is located in the center of your torso, not the left side). If one truly wanted to acknowledge the source of their humanity and emotions they would place their hand over their brain, which of course would look ridiculous (which is how I see hands over heart). Only my personal opinion, of course, having no import to anyone else.

 

[vtcwbuff]

"When did a protest over police shooting unarmed minorities morph into a question of patriotism?"

Williams would be better served if she were to educate herself about the true goals of the BLM protests and the real facts about police shootings. Then she might instead protest the thousands (5000+ in 2014) of blacks (including innocent children) killed every year by other blacks.

But then I guess those lives didn't matter.

 

[Plebe]

"When did a protest over police shooting unarmed minorities morph into a question of patriotism?"

Williams would be better served if she were to educate herself about the true goals of the BLM protests and the real facts about police shootings. Then she might instead protest the thousands (5000+ in 2014) of blacks (including innocent children) killed every year by other blacks.

But then I guess those lives didn't matter.

Or, she might realize that there is a massive qualitative difference between the phenomenon of homicide committed by agents of the State against unarmed civilians and the phenomenon of homicide among civilians. Protesting one does not negate or diminish the other.

 

[UcMiami]

VTCW - all I can say is WOW.

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