OT: Notre Dame Must Vacate Football Wins

[JavaMan]

Notre Dame football must vacate wins for violations by student-trainer
USA TODAY Sports12:31 p.m. EST November 22, 2016

Notre Dame will be forced to vacate victories in the 2012 and 2013 football season due to NCAA violations by a student-trainer.

The NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions panel ruled the trainer violated NCAA ethical conduct rules when she committed academic misconduct for two football players and provided six other players with impermissible academic extra benefits.

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[bags27]

Kind of lucky that they didn't win the NC in 2012, because vacating an NC is so problematic. You can't award it to the other team (Alabama) by default, so you'd not have a NC.

Successful college football programs are almost always a chance discovery away from a significant violation. There are far, far too many moving parts, too many greedy people, and too many absurd rules.

 

[triaddukefan]

I'll just leave this right here

 

[JordyG]

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I'll just leave this right here

Why am I always the last to know?

 

[stamfordhusky]

Kind of lucky that they didn't win the NC in 2012, because vacating an NC is so problematic. You can't award it to the other team (Alabama) by default, so you'd not have a NC.

Successful college football programs are almost always a chance discovery away from a significant violation. There are far, far too many moving parts, too many greedy people, and too many absurd rules.

Yes, absolutely. I am certain that there is far more academic fraud at Alabama than at ND. it's just more institutionalized and concealed a lot better.

 

[uconnfan68]

And all is well at UNC.

 

[HoopsFan21]

Lizzie Seeburg, kids falling off scissor lifts, fake cancer stricken girlfriends..... all part of that ND mystique I guess.

 

[Checkmate]

And all is well at UNC.

and every other school where academic fraud is occurring.

Ben Simmons admitted he didn’t attend classes at LSU. Why should he?

 

[huskeynut]

And given they way the NCAA writes their rules, its impossible to seeze without violating some rule somewhere.

And we also know that if the NCAA, aka Emmert, wants to sanction you or slap you on the wrist, he will. Just ask Geno and his call to Monique.

 

[CL82]

Kind of lucky that they didn't win the NC in 2012, because vacating an NC is so problematic. You can't award it to the other team (Alabama) by default, so you'd not have a NC.

Successful college football programs are almost always a chance discovery away from a significant violation. There are far, far too many moving parts, too many greedy people, and too many absurd rules.

It didn't happen to Syracuse, it didn't happen to North Carolina; why do you think it would have happened to Notre Dame?

 

[Paesano]

Funny. In the case of UNC, the NCAA says academic issues are the domain of the university and they don't want to get involved. The only difference I see here is that ND has a TV deal with NBC as an independent versus a deal with ESPN through their conference.

 

[BigBird]

When a "brand name" (how I dislike that expression) school has ND/UNC issues, it is an "isolated" event, or an administrative slip up, or just a bad break. When anyone else does the same things, a far more appropriate term is typically applied:

Cheating.

 

[southbendcane]

I thought this was a basketball forum? A lot of shade on N.D.. Im not a Irish football fan but seems to me not long a go U Conn had some issues with their mens program about grades and graduation rate. Whats the expression? Dont throw stones at glass houses. Might this have something to do with a rivalry with a certain women's basketball program ?

 

[cbraarj]

I thought this was a basketball forum? A lot of shade on N.D.. Im not a Irish football fan but seems to me not long a go U Conn had some issues with their mens program about grades and graduation rate. Whats the expression? Dont throw stones at glass houses. Might this have something to do with a rivalry with a certain women's basketball program ?

What does college football have anything to do with women's basketball

 

[cockhrnleghrn]

Lizzie Seeburg, kids falling off scissor lifts, fake cancer stricken girlfriends..... all part of that ND mystique I guess.

Brian Kelly says he isn't responsible for any of it. Yep, his days in SB are numbered.

 

[Icebear]

And yet the inaction at UNC just keeps rolling on.

 

[DaddyChoc]

I thought this was a basketball forum? A lot of shade on N.D.. Im not a Irish football fan but seems to me not long a go U Conn had some issues with their mens program about grades and graduation rate. Whats the expression? Dont throw stones at glass houses. Might this have something to do with a rivalry with a certain women's basketball program ?

what rivalry?

 

[HoopsFan21]

what rivalry?

It's not a rivalry when one side has won 80% of the games.

 

[Ct Dog]

I thought this was a basketball forum? A lot of shade on N.D.. Im not a Irish football fan but seems to me not long a go U Conn had some issues with their mens program about grades and graduation rate. Whats the expression? Dont throw stones at glass houses. Might this have something to do with a rivalry with a certain women's basketball program ?

That's what the O T in the title is for

 

[uconnfan68]

I thought this was a basketball forum? A lot of shade on N.D.. Im not a Irish football fan but seems to me not long a go U Conn had some issues with their mens program about grades and graduation rate. Whats the expression? Dont throw stones at glass houses. Might this have something to do with a rivalry with a certain women's basketball program ?

And we were punished twice for it, once retroactively. When those others get punished, it will be sweet justice.

 

[southbendcane]

It's not a rivalry when one side has won 80% of the games.

It will be down to 79% in a few weeks,

 

[HoopsFan21]

It will be down to 79% in a few weeks,

Perhaps, and not unheard of for the #1 team to beat the #2 team in the country especially at their house.

 

[mhshuskies]

Kind of lucky that they didn't win the NC in 2012, because vacating an NC is so problematic. You can't award it to the other team (Alabama) by default, so you'd not have a NC.

Successful college football programs are almost always a chance discovery away from a significant violation. There are far, far too many moving parts, too many greedy people, and too many absurd rules.

It was rumored nd was in the stadium for that game, but there was no evidence that they showed up.

 

[mhshuskies]

And all is well at UNC.

Yeah, how come no action on that?

 

[mhshuskies]

Actually, after reading the article, the the punishment might seem a bit harsh. An action by an individual operating on her own?