OT: NFL bluebloods

[freescooter]

Denver? Oh please. I'd put them far behind the Raiders. But the real blue bloods:
Packers
Cowboys
Bears
Giants
Miami
Steelers

New Era
Patriots
Raiders
Forty-niners

 

[Jerry1714]

Hard to consider any franchise that has only won a championship with 1 coach and/or 1 QB a blueblood.

Makes any case for Washington and NE tough. The Bears have been to 2 SB's, winning 1, they cannot be included.

 

[BugsyCT]

Denver far behind the Raiders? They have as many SB wins (3) and more AFC titles.

 

[amory]

No Broncos but

Miami
Raiders

Trololololol

 

[Husky25]

Hard to consider any franchise that has only won a championship with 1 coach and/or 1 QB a blueblood.

Makes any case for Washington and NE tough. The Bears have been to 2 SB's, winning 1, they cannot be included.

Washington is the only franchise where one coach used three different starting QBs to win Super Bowls.

 

[UConnNick]

The Redskins have played in 5 Super Bowls and won 3 and have 2 titles prior to the SB era. They were one of the best franchises of the 80's. They belong.

Plus some very colorful characters....."Slingin" Sammy Baugh, Sonny Jurgensen, Billy Kilmer, George Allen, "Riggo", Dexter Manley, "The Fun Bunch", "The Hogs", and the NFL's best marching band and fight song.

 

[storrsroars]

Miami? Laughable. They weren't even an original AFL team, not to mention NFL. And they've mostly been crap.

Think of "blue bloods" the way we do for college hoops. No doubt New England is UConn, the noveau riche of the group.

Pre-merger (1969) there were really only two blue bloods: Green Bay (11 championships) and Chicago (8). They are Indiana and Kentucky. The next closest teams only had 4 each, and they were mostly clustered in one decade. Post-merger, about a half dozen teams make the cut.

So here's my comparison between the NFL and NCAA hoops:

Green Bay: Kentucky
Chicago: Indiana
Dallas: North Carolina
Giants: Kansas
Pittsburgh: Duke
49ers: UCLA
New England: UConn
Denver: Louisville

On the outside looking in:
Miami: Ohio State
Redskins: Michigan State

 

[Scoe]

The Browns were once a dynasty in the Otto Graham days.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Hard to consider any franchise that has only won a championship with 1 coach and/or 1 QB a blueblood.

Makes any case for Washington and NE tough. The Bears have been to 2 SB's, winning 1, they cannot be included.

Yeah, but the Bears won 8 championships prior to the Super Bowl era.

They've sucked for most of the past 30 years but in terms of blue bloods they're Vanderbilts and Rockefellers.

 

[Fishy]

Just my opinion, in no particular order ..

Steelers
Cowboys
Forty-Niners
Patriots (nouveau riche - most Super Bowls)
Packers
Giants
Broncos
Redskins
Raiders
Bears ("barely" .. lack of success in the modern era really hurts them)

That's 10 out of 32, which is a lot.

Any thoughts?

Steelers, Cowboys, Packers, Patriots, Giants.

Redskins, Raiders and 49'ers are like four orbits under that group.

The Bears and Dolphins exist in some cold corner for teams that used to be elite, but have failed their way out of the club.

I don't know what to do with the Broncos and the rest of the league is not even close.

 

[temery]

Modern era blue bloods (since Super Bowl 1):

Steelers
Patriots
Cowboys
49ers

Historic blue bloods:

Packers
Giants
Bears

Dolphins on the historic list. I'm still surprised and disappointed Marino wasn't able to win at least one Super Bowl.

 

[Redding Husky]

Dolphins on the historic list. I'm still surprised and disappointed Marino wasn't able to win at least one Super Bowl.

I was at the only Marino Super Bowl in Palo Alto. The 49'ers were just a better team. Marino didn't have enough around him or on defense.

I paid $125 for the ticket, mid-level, in the end zone.

 

[BugsyCT]

I was at the only Marino Super Bowl in Palo Alto. The 49'ers were just a better team. Marino didn't have enough around him or on defense.

I paid $125 for the ticket, mid-level, in the end zone.

I visited that stadium while touring Stanford's campus years ago. Huge stadium in a very quaint area. Surprised they chose to hold a massive event like a SB there rather than Candlestick.

 

[freescooter]

Miami was the team to beat virtually from its inception. First great teams came in the Czonka-Kiick-Morris teams that is still the only undefeated team in NFL history. NE won more games but lost the Super Bowl. Then they were great again with Marino although they didn't win one they were there in 2. They were In the AFC title game in the 1990's and 2000s. For 30 years the path to the AFC title went through Miami.

The Bears were an original team and Halas basically invented the NFL. They won 9 NFL championships including 1 super bowl and made it to another. They won NFL Titles in the 20s, 30s, 40s 60's and 80's. Anyone who doesn't think the Bears are among the bluest of blue bloods probably has not followed the NFL before 2010.

 

[Adios]

Dolphins on the historic list. I'm still surprised and disappointed Marino wasn't able to win at least one Super Bowl.

Historic list is teams that were around before the Super Bowl.

How the heck are the Dolphins elite? Don Shula was good, sure. But 2 titles. The Broncos and Raiders have more. All 3 are originally AFL teams, so they'd be Super Bowl era teams. But not "blue bloods", compared to the Cowboys, 49ers, Steelers and Patriots. The Patriots do have a Super Bowl appearance in the 80s and an AFL championship game appearance in the 60s.

The New England Patriots were named with Connecticut and the Giants playing at Yale Stadium in the mid 70s in mind.

 

[sammydabiz]

. The Raiders are bush league.

Hey amory,

Go yourself

Win lose or tie
Raiders till I die

 

[Adios]

Here's a gauge on fan interest in teams.

NFL Teams on Facebook.

New England is now second in bandwagon fans behind Dallas. Who imagined this would happen? Jags are last. Redskins and Browns are in the bottom third. Saints' popularity is surprising.

Internationally, the Patriots' success is good for the league.

 

[uconnbill]

Giants got 8 championships overall, in a way the Giants are somewhat similar to Uconn, their first 2 Super Bowl teams were juggernauts and lost 2 Super Bowl teams were done mission impossible style. The Giants are villains, if not for the Giants the Pats would have 7 Super Bowls plus and undefeated season, and Montana would have 3 superbowls in a row.

Villians in your opinion but they were New England team pre 70s and even had a strong foot hold into the 90s. By the way most of America was rooting for the Giants in both super bowls

 

[Adios]

Villians in your opinion but they were New England team pre 70s and even had a strong foot hold into the 90s. By the way most of America was rooting for the Giants in both super bowls

That was because of "HYPP" (Harvard/Yale/Princeton/Penn). If the Giants started in New Jersey in 1925, they would have folded. As proven with the Whalers, Huskies, and Patriots, Connecticut is a bandwagon state.

 

[Scoe]

Villians in your opinion but they were New England team pre 70s and even had a strong foot hold into the 90s. By the way most of America was rooting for the Giants in both super bowls

Well you know what I meant, they are villains to the media.

 

[Devland]

Giants got 8 championships overall, in a way the Giants are somewhat similar to Uconn, their first 2 Super Bowl teams were juggernauts and lost 2 Super Bowl teams were done mission impossible style. The Giants are villains, if not for the Giants the Pats would have 7 Super Bowls plus and undefeated season, and Montana would have 3 superbowls in a row.

You could also draw a parallel to the Giants first Super Bowl and UConn's first championship. Most "experts" considered the Bills and Duke to be the far better teams. Although Duke's final shot did not go wide right.

 

[StoweD210]

You could also draw a parallel to the Giants first Super Bowl and UConn's first championship. Most "experts" considered the Bills and Duke to be the far better teams. Although Duke's final shot did not go wide right.

The Giants first Super Bowl win was after the 1986 season, when beat the Broncos convincingly, 39-20. It was their second win over the Bills that was close and came down to a missed FG as time expired. I would agree, though, that the popular storyline leading up to the game was that the Bills had more talent, especially on offense, and would win.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I love how a Pat's fan claims they should have had wins against the Giants while neglecting to point out that three of the Super Bowl wins the Pats have were by the same margin as the closest loss to the Giants and their fourth went to overtime .

 

[Redding Husky]

Here's a gauge on fan interest in teams.

NFL Teams on Facebook.

New England is now second in bandwagon fans behind Dallas. Who imagined this would happen? Jags are last. Redskins and Browns are in the bottom third. Saints' popularity is surprising.

Internationally, the Patriots' success is good for the league.

The Patriots are also the second highest valued franchise (behind the Cowboys) according to Forbes.

It's amazing that the Patriots have reached this level. They probably have the craziest history of any NFL team. We've had the snowplow game in 1982, the tuck rule, deflategate, and dozens of other bizarre events. It's been a wild ride since 1960.

 

[Adios]

The Patriots are also the second highest valued franchise (behind the Cowboys) according to Forbes.

It's amazing that the Patriots have reached this level. They probably have the craziest history of any NFL team. We've had the snowplow game in 1982, the tuck rule, deflategate, and dozens of other bizarre events. It's been a wild ride since 1960.

There were teams wrongfully stripped of titles in the 1920s.

Patriots definitely have an interesting history. Took a while to even find a home. And stable ownership. Franchise success obviously took off under the stewardship of Robert Kraft. Gotta appreciate the gifts we're given.

Going forward, at least the Patriots will now be an attractive team to players.

 

[TheDrifter75]

There were teams wrongfully stripped of titles in the 1920s.

Patriots definitely have an interesting history. Took a while to even find a home. And stable ownership. Franchise success obviously took off under the stewardship of Robert Kraft. Gotta appreciate the gifts we're given.

Going forward, at least the Patriots will now be an attractive team to players.

In the near term. The 49er's were once an attractive team for players.

 

[Adios]

In the near term. The 49er's were once an attractive team for players.

That is true. Ownership screwed up by ridding of Jim Harbaugh.

 

[Adios]

The Chiefs Are In An Unfamiliar Place — No. 1 In Our NFL Rankings

This gives a great idea of who the NFL bluebloods are. If the Patriots win one more title, they'll be the most successful NFL team, Super Bowl era.

 

[BugsyCT]

I'll be sold on the Chiefs when they can actually reach an AFC Championship game. They've made it once since the AFL-NFL merger. Once (1993). Choke artists in the post-season.