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Contracts are prob similar for avg value. Except Westbrook has an extra year at 47m. They save money in year 4 and get 2 pick andn2 swaps. I’m surprised they got that much for him
 
3rdbass said:
Yeah wonder what the thunder will do with Chris Paul as I’m sure he doesn’t want to be on a rebuilding team at this stage of his career.
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I mean he and Adams in the pick and roll could be something; Adams is obviously tailing off but he’s never had a PG like Paul. You have picks you can trade for some pieces right now, a la the Celtics. It doesn’t have to be a rebuild; frankly it shouldn’t, given Paul’s and Adams’s contracts
 
Rocktheworld said:
I mean he and Adams in the pick and roll could be something; Adams is obviously tailing off but he’s never had a PG like Paul. You have picks you can trade for some pieces right now, a la the Celtics. It doesn’t have to be a rebuild; frankly it shouldn’t, given Paul’s and Adams’s contracts
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They won't suck if CP remains healthy but their options are basically to tear it down or to compete for the 8 seed. Considering they have just traded for 8 first round picks plus their own I think the choice is obvious.

Per Ramona it sounds like they may try do CP a solid and get him somewhere good.
 
navery12 said:
There's really no option for a buyout with $120M left. Maybe they flip him to DET or MIA for all the same reasons we talked about them trading for Westbrook
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I thought this too. Paul would be a really good fit for Detroit stylistically. Paul's contract matches up with Griffin's, but if memory serves, Paul and Griffin were not best buds by the time their days on the Clippers ended. I suspect both are desperate enough by this point in their careers that even a longshot chance on Detroit is better than finishing their careers on the playoff bubble or rebuilding.
 
Rocktheworld said:
I mean he and Adams in the pick and roll could be something; Adams is obviously tailing off but he’s never had a PG like Paul. You have picks you can trade for some pieces right now, a la the Celtics. It doesn’t have to be a rebuild; frankly it shouldn’t, given Paul’s and Adams’s contracts
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They can compete for the 8 seed if Adams stays, though I think I'd take others ahead of them. But I suspect he's gone before the year starts
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
I thought this too. Paul would be a really good fit for Detroit stylistically. Paul's contract matches up with Griffin's, but if memory serves, Paul and Griffin were not best buds by the time their days on the Clippers ended. I suspect both are desperate enough by this point in their careers that even a longshot chance on Detroit is better than finishing their careers on the playoff bubble or rebuilding.
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Yeah that's pretty much where I'm at, DET seems like the only good fit. We pretty much know how that team will do with CP3 and Blake and Drummond basically being Deandre Jordan. But what other choice does DET have at this point? Can't dump contracts and Blake/Drummond will never be bad enough to bottom out the next few years
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I thought this too. Paul would be a really good fit for Detroit stylistically. Paul's contract matches up with Griffin's, but if memory serves, Paul and Griffin were not best buds by the time their days on the Clippers ended. I suspect both are desperate enough by this point in their careers that even a longshot chance on Detroit is better than finishing their careers on the playoff bubble or rebuilding.
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Yeah I think the Heat and Pistons are the best bet. Both have big expirings to use in trades and both teams would be psyched to land CP and challenge for home court advantage, even with no real path to a title.
 
Haven't looked at any #'s but my first thought is Paul ends up on the Lakers. Don't know how they could swing it but could also see Beal in the mix for them.
 
I just have to say the best thing about my sports entertainment day today was skip and uncle Shay coming up with the name “Kawhi-ser Soze”
 
Somehow I cant see Westbrook and Hardin playing together. There just isn't enough basketball to go around and the two are perhaps in the top 10 biggest egos in professional sports. But in the outside chance that it does work - watch out
 
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superjohn said:
Haven't looked at any #'s but my first thought is Paul ends up on the Lakers. Don't know how they could swing it but could also see Beal in the mix for them.
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It's really really tough, borderline impossible. Outside of the newly signed guys who can't be traded until January 15th they have LeBron/AD who aren't moving and then Mo Wagner at $2M as their next highest salary
 
superjohn said:
Haven't looked at any #'s but my first thought is Paul ends up on the Lakers. Don't know how they could swing it but could also see Beal in the mix for them.
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Same thought here. I just don't know how it's possible. Lakers can't trade any new players until mid season and he costs too much to buy out
 
Walker11 said:
Same thought here. I just don't know how it's possible. Lakers can't trade any new players until mid season and he costs too much to buy out
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I hear you guys but historically they always seem to make it happen.
 
Walker11 said:
Yeah I think the Heat and Pistons are the best bet. Both have big expirings to use in trades and both teams would be psyched to land CP and challenge for home court advantage, even with no real path to a title.
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I could see Kupchak and Jordan trying to shed Batum by offering him and a pick for Paul. It would go against their rebuilding strategy but they might just do whatever they can to get people to go to games and CP3's obviously from North Carolina.
 
superjohn said:
Haven't looked at any #'s but my first thought is Paul ends up on the Lakers. Don't know how they could swing it but could also see Beal in the mix for them.
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Oh please god no

Although if any GM will do it, It's Rob Pelinka
 
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NJHusky said:
Contracts are prob similar for avg value. Except Westbrook has an extra year at 47m. They save money in year 4 and get 2 pick andn2 swaps. I’m surprised they got that much for him
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Feels like Harden wanted him and/or wanted CP gone. There were rumblings they weren’t getting along.

Amazing that 2012 OKC with Durant, Harden, Westbrook, Ibaka all healthy wasn’t an even better team.
 
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Walker11 said:
Same thought here. I just don't know how it's possible. Lakers can't trade any new players until mid season and he costs too much to buy out
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Why would OKC just buy him out? Paul to the Lakers sounds good, but there really is no path. That said, this offseason has proven anything can happen.
 
superjohn said:
Haven't looked at any #'s but my first thought is Paul ends up on the Lakers. Don't know how they could swing it but could also see Beal in the mix for them.
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Beal to the Lakers? Do you understand how the NBA works? What the Spartacus do the Lakers have to get Beal?
 
navery12 said:
Yeah that's pretty much where I'm at, DET seems like the only good fit. We pretty much know how that team will do with CP3 and Blake and Drummond basically being Deandre Jordan. But what other choice does DET have at this point? Can't dump contracts and Blake/Drummond will never be bad enough to bottom out the next few years
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I think CP3 on the current Pistons is a 50+ win team, especially if Detroit doesn't have to give up Kennard to get CP3.

The Celtics aren't going to be dominant and the 76ers are one wrong Embiid step from being a 47 win team and a second round exit. The Bucks are going to be really freaking good, but Bledsoe is a mega choker and Middleton did not exactly bathe himself in glory against the Raptors either. The Pistons would have a chance against the Bucks in a 7 game series.

If you are the Pistons, why not go for it? Paul is $50 million cheaper than Westbrook, and he would be a good fit on that team. Griffin's game has matured a lot in the last few years, and Drummond, Griffin, Rose, CP3 and Kennard is a solid starting lineup. Detroit is never going to attract marquee free agents, so why bother saving the cap space?

Edit: The Pistons also have leverage, because the minute Bradley Beal goes on the market, CP3's value drops.
 
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navery12 said:
It's really really tough, borderline impossible. Outside of the newly signed guys who can't be traded until January 15th they have LeBron/AD who aren't moving and then Mo Wagner at $2M as their next highest salary
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Think it’s December 15th. Also Mo Wagner is a Washington Wizard already haha. The Lakers legit have nothing to trade outside LeBron and Kuzma.
 
awfuldan said:
Think it’s December 15th. Also Mo Wagner is a Washington Wizard already haha. The Lakers legit have nothing to trade outside LeBron and Kuzma.
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Exactly . Guys on here have no idea what they are talking about.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I think CP3 on the current Pistons is a 50+ win team, especially if Detroit doesn't have to give up Kennard to get CP3.

The Celtics aren't going to be dominant and the 76ers are one wrong Embiid step from being a 47 win team and a second round exit. The Bucks are going to be really freaking good, but Bledsoe is a mega choker and Middleton did not exactly bathe himself in glory against the Raptors either. The Pistons would have a chance against the Bucks in a 7 game series.

If you are the Pistons, why not go for it? Paul is $50 million cheaper than Westbrook, and he would be a good fit on that team. Griffin's game has matured a lot in the last few years, and Drummond, Griffin, Rose, CP3 and Kennard is a solid starting lineup. Detroit is never going to attract marquee free agents, so why bother saving the cap space?

Edit: The Pistons also have leverage, because the minute Bradley Beal goes on the market, CP3's value drops.
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I think you're way overrating the Pistons. Last year they were two games away from missing the playoffs in the East. Adding a 34 year old Chris Paul isn't going to change that by too much.
 
navery12 said:
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Miami is the one team that OKC really doesn't want to help, because OKC has two future Miami #1 picks. I think Riley has done a great job already this offseason in getting Butler and getting rid of Whiteside's terrible contract, but I don't see him pulling off a deal with OKC for CP3.
 
djct1999 said:
Beal to the Lakers? Do you understand how the NBA works? What the Spartacus do the Lakers have to get Beal?
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Like I said, I don't know how they can swing it and like you just said anything can happen.
 
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