When I saw that, it almost reminded me of the end of the recent Super Bowl.
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he's played in a ton of regular season games the past two years, also fiba. 22 years old, he'll be fine. remember when curry had glass ankles and took a crap contract?
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Agreed.
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I have no problem with it if somebody in a husky jersey is taking advantage of said rule ha
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It was great D by Iguadola but bad offense by Lebron, as soon as Iggy pressured him Lebron faded away to the three point line and took a terrible percentage shot, he abolutely needs to drive there.
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Dude what? LeBron did exactly what he did against the GSWs in the game in February. I expected him to go high 30s. He'll probably do it every game. The Ws have nobody who can even slow him down. The GSWs were one shot away from losing this game. At Home. How can you rationalize that they are the "far" better team?
That said, if the Cavs lose Irving, the Ws may win by 30 the next three games, because the Cavs are going to mail it in once it's clear they can't win.
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He's missed a ton of games over the years, at least with Steph it was limited to his ankles, Kyrie has literally been injured from head to toe since college. I think a management program is going overboard but how is this dude going to hold up over a full season of deep playoff runs?
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The first part of your post is on point. The Cavs will have a chance if Lebron is ridiculous, and he will be, I really think he is the GOAT. The past about the Cavs mailing it in - that is dumb.
Im obviously referring to Kyrie being hurt, and you just said it the Cavs "were" one shot away from losing this game but where are they now? GS gets easier buckets then the Cavs do. I welcome a great series but I am fearful of GS making it a 5 game series.
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Yeah, no. It was good D. LeBron took a tough shot, even without a man on him. And he wasn't "getting away" with anything more than what happens every day in the NBA. If anything, people constantly hammer him because of his size and it doesn't get whistled as much as it would for other players. You're clearly a die-hard GSW fan, and this looks like your year, so enjoy it, but your analysis of your own team is like Dick Vitale assessing Duke.
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Really? I saw LeBron hit about 10 shots from 3 feet away. Doesn't get much easier than that. Barnes and Ig. went 5 for 8 from 3 and the team shot 90% from the line. That was the difference in regulation.
Look at both teams offenses and tell me with a straight face that GS doesn't get easier buckets then Cleveland, easier buckets don't always mean layups it also includes open 3's off of great passing, penetration. Whats done is done game 1 is in the bag.
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The big dilemma for Cleveland is what the hell to do with Tristan Thompson. Guy is an absolute workhorse on the offensive glass and very active defensively, but when you're playing 47 minutes you need to take more than four shots to keep the Golden State big men honest (granted, some of those offensive boards are generated because of the help). Obviously, Memphis is not Cleveland, but the longer the Memphis series dragged on, the more Kerr, Gentry, etc. were able to scheme to clog the paint and take away the passing lanes.
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I'm a Warriors fan in this series but Lebron was pushing off all game. It is what it is, Jordan got away with murder too, all of the greatest do. You saying Lebron gets hammered more than other players and it doesn't get called as much clearly shows you are a die-hard Cavs fan. You're probably the biggest Cavs fan in the history of Cleveland fandom, see what I did there.
Lebron never drives towards his left utilizing the baseline. He always goes right into traffic. He never seems to be able to hit the game winning shot. Even though he scored 40 plus points, I thought there way to much one on one ball, and not enough team basketball for the Cavs. JR also had a terrible game.
Well, this is about how you would expect it to play out, right? Lebron goes crazy, but GS is just better, period. Remember, Houston gave them hell in the first two games before GS really found themselves and crushed them. It wouldn't surprise me if the same thing happens here.
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This is the game in San Fran the Cavs needed to win. They had good D on Curry and Thompson, they had LeBron feeling it, yet they still lost.
Let's see with Irving how bad his knee is. I'm hoping he's alright, but if he's out, they'll be lucky to get back to San Francisco.
Let's see with Irving how bad his knee is. I'm hoping he's alright, but if he's out, they'll be lucky to get back to San Francisco.
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Give it a game or two. If Irving is out or ineffective, which is probably the case, then the GSW may open up a 20 point lead in the remaining games, and, when that happens, I can see the Cavs mailing it in, knowing there is no way they're coming back. LeBron is the GOAT, in my opinion, but here's what you have:
GOAT/May be Greatest Shooter in Curry.
INJURED Irving, MARGINAL NBA PLAYER Delavedova/Great shooter in Clay.
Great Rebounder/Pick next guy, very good.
2 or 3 role players who were picked up at midseason and are decent/2 or 3 role players who are solid.
NO BENCH/EXCELLENT BENCH (Lee was a DNP coach's decision - he'd have minutes if he was on the Cavs).
QUESTIONABLE COACH/EXCELLENT COACH
The fact that the Cavs outplayed the GSWs in regulation and had a shot to win it is incredible by itself, and is a testament to how great LeBron is.
Sad part about all of this is that people will use this to discredit LeBron, when the fact that the Cavs are here at all is a testament to how great he is. Jordan lost 3 playoffs in the 1st round. LeBron carries inferior teams deep into the playoffs.
All that said, if Irving is out this is going to get ugly, because if you're down 20 on GS at the end of the 3rd, you're not coming back, and so the tendency will be to mail it in.
I'm not a Cavs fan. I wasn't a Heat fan. I am, however, a LeBron fan. Guy is the best player I have ever seen, and I saw Bird, Magic, Kobe, and Jordan's entire careers.
If LeBron carries this team to a title this year, the debate over greatest ever would be resolved, in my view.
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Not sure how Game 1 could have possibly gone any better for Cleveland. The Warriors were out of sync on offense for most of the game, LeBron was a monster, Kyrie was terrific, Mosgov was very good, Thompson did what Thompson does - and they still lost. Smith and Shumpert didn't do much but by not doubling LeBron, Golden State is turning them into spot up shooters who are never open.
It's hard to see Kyrie playing that well again - if he even plays at all. LeBron might be good enough to average 40 for the series, but they just don't have enough to beat this Golden State team.
It's hard to see Kyrie playing that well again - if he even plays at all. LeBron might be good enough to average 40 for the series, but they just don't have enough to beat this Golden State team.
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LBJ doesn't need to get away with anything - its given to him. For someone with all the ability and physical attributes, he has turned into an incessant whiner. I am not a GSW fan but if LBJ carried himself with a bit of Seth Curry demeanor, I would appreciate him to a higher degree.
He is a great player but becoming, to me, hard to like.
As far as the two teams are concerned, with Irving or not, the Cavs should win on shear athleticism alone BUT the difference is in the head coach. Kerr, despite the lack of experience at the helm, is a guy who really understands the game, especially the NBA game. He knows rotations and match ups. The Cavs coach, albeit a success in Euro ball, I don't feel really knows when to use certain players at the best times. Look at the two team huddles - Kerr talks and the players listen. In the Cavs, huddle LBJ and a few players usually talk and everyone else is either listening or holding private conversations. Kerr was a very smart player, an astute analyst and an even headier coach.
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Doesn't look good for the Cavs, Warriors never doubled Lebron and he played right into there hands by iso'ing every trip and dribbling the shot clock and shooting. Cavs are at there best when teams double Lebron, he's so quick to pass to wide open shooters who nail the shots. The strategy almost backfired because Lebron was so on last night but once it hit OT the Cavs were totally out of gas. Game went nearly perfectly for Cavs while Warriors seemed off and yet they still won. Warriors will continue to guard Lebron one on one, using several different players, he's not going to shoot that well from midrange most of the time and somehow Smith and Shumpert are going to have to catch fire but that's tough because GS isn't going to leave them open like the Bulls and Atlanta did. One advantage Cavs have is Mosgov and Thompson playing bully ball. Warriors depth is pretty insane considering David Lee can't get a minute. Warriors depth looks to be too much and if the shots really start falling they could run away with things, not counting out the Cavs though.
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If "playing right into their hands" means "led his team to have a shot at the end of regulation to win the game," then HECK YES!
You know you are a huge fan when the other team comes into your building, plays you well enough to have the last shot to win, and you describe that scenario as, "playing into our hands." So, your feeling is that the Warriors planned to position them selves to potentially lose on the last shot? And if it goes in, then what? All the GSW fans would be screaming, "why didn't we double him? He killed us!" Lord.
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Your act is getting a little tired. Warriors didn't expect to shoot poorly and probably didn't expect Lebron to get 44. Guarding Lebron one on one is clearly the best strategy and going small is what won Kerr the game. The point is GS didn't play well and Cavs did, felt like a must win for Cavs.
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Hell, just look at the quotes from the Warriors themselves, they were cool with Bron going off.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...e-warriors-stephen-curry-nba-finals/28523131/
OAKLAND — Harrison Barnes didn't look like someone who had been on the wrong end of a basketball beating.
Long after the Golden State Warriors survived all those blows from the game's best player, LeBron James scoring 44 points for naught as his Cleveland Cavaliers dropped the first game of these Finals 108-100, the young Warriors forward who spent so much of the night guarding James made the media rounds with a smile on his face and a clear plan in his mind.
"You've got to look at it and say, 'Look, this is what we wanted to do,'" Barnes told USA TODAY Sports about the unenviable task of slowing James. "We iced out most of his teammates. Obviously Kyrie (Irving) got some things going (23 points, seven rebounds, six assists), but (James) is going to have to have big offensive nights for them. If he beats us doing that, and the other guys don't get going, we'll live with that. But chances are, I think we'll be all right."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...e-warriors-stephen-curry-nba-finals/28523131/
OAKLAND — Harrison Barnes didn't look like someone who had been on the wrong end of a basketball beating.
Long after the Golden State Warriors survived all those blows from the game's best player, LeBron James scoring 44 points for naught as his Cleveland Cavaliers dropped the first game of these Finals 108-100, the young Warriors forward who spent so much of the night guarding James made the media rounds with a smile on his face and a clear plan in his mind.
"You've got to look at it and say, 'Look, this is what we wanted to do,'" Barnes told USA TODAY Sports about the unenviable task of slowing James. "We iced out most of his teammates. Obviously Kyrie (Irving) got some things going (23 points, seven rebounds, six assists), but (James) is going to have to have big offensive nights for them. If he beats us doing that, and the other guys don't get going, we'll live with that. But chances are, I think we'll be all right."
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If that shot went in, I think a reasonable person would say that it took superhuman games from LeBron and Kyrie (considering his health) for Cleveland to steal a game at the buzzer. I don't know if LeBron will score 44 every night, but I'm pretty confident that we just saw Kyrie's best game of this series. Cleveland really needed to win that game to have a shot at this.
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When Kareem went down against the Celtics, Magic carried that team to victory.
Would be a great story if Lebron does the same thing. There is now a new story line, and if Lebron can do this, his NBA legacy would be catapulted to the top echelons of players, perhaps 'finally' equalling Jordan. No pressure on that young man.
Would be a great story if Lebron does the same thing. There is now a new story line, and if Lebron can do this, his NBA legacy would be catapulted to the top echelons of players, perhaps 'finally' equalling Jordan. No pressure on that young man.
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I think Lebron was clearly out of gas on the last possession. When tired or hurt, people tend to take the first jumper available. He played one of the individual games I have ever seen in the Finals, but the Warriors wore him down.
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LeBron's also shooting like 25% in the playoffs from outside the paint. But having LeBron score 44 and Kyrie has 23 and you still win is a good sign for GS.
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