OT Nate Solder to Giants

[Scoe]

Huge signing an overpay sure but this was a move the Giants absolutely had to make and its a huge loss for the Patriots protecting a 41 year old qb blindside. The Eagles just added Michael Bennett and Haloti Ngata to their already stacked Dline this was a no brainer, now the stupid move was signing Johnathan Stewart to a 2 year deal with guaranteed money.

 

[zls44]

Im just thrilled they did something on the OL for the first time in forever. Now you can shift Flowers to the right side, where hes actually fine and it starts to look ok.

 

[outlaw]

62mil - the cost to move flowers off the left

 

[Exit 4]

I thought we were not allowed to talk politics.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Not happy as a Pats fan, but it's a great move for the Giants to shore up a terrible OL. New England couldn't afford him.

 

[Scoe]

Not happy as a Pats fan, but it's a great move for the Giants to shore up a terrible OL. New England couldn't afford him.

Thats why the Giants overpaid because they know the Pats wouldn't match, if the Giants did a slight overpay I think Solder would have gone back to the Pats for less money but a massive overpay Solder couldn't turn it down. I could see the Pats going after Joe Thomas.

 

[DoctorWho85]

What are the Pats doing? Three of their best players are gone and Lewis is probably not coming back either. Do they not like winning or something?

 

[HuskyHawk]

What are the Pats doing? Three of their best players are gone and Lewis is probably not coming back either. Do they not like winning or something?

What players? Solder is a real loss.

Amendola was not needed. When they kept Kenny Britt that was the end for him. They have Edelman coming back, and Mitchell coming back, as guys who missed all of last season. The WR core is very deep and good.

Lewis was not needed. Gillislee was a better runner, White a better receiver and Burkhead a better combo back. The Pats do not overpay at that position. They should try to get Rex back. They couldn't keep both.

Butler was always going to leave. Solder leaving frees up a lot of cap space they planned to spend on LT. Let's see where it goes.

 

[Kgun7]

What are the Pats doing? Three of their best players are gone and Lewis is probably not coming back either. Do they not like winning or something?

Belichick does not re-sign payers he believes are too expensive ... he does this every single year. If it blows up in his face this year it will be a first ... if you don't include Lagarrette Blount and Chris Long ...

 

[DoctorWho85]

Belichick does not re-sign payers he believes are too expensive ... he does this every single year. If it blows up in his face this year it will be a first ... if you don't include Lagarrette Blount and Chris Long ...

I'm hoping this will at least give us some money to retool the defense, which should be better now that Patricia is gone.

Also, I hope they sign Jordy Nelson.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I'm hoping this will at least give us some money to retool the defense, which should be better now that Patricia is gone.

Also, I hope they sign Jordy Nelson.

Why would they spend money on Nelson? They have Cooks, Hogan, Mitchell, Edelman, Dorsett and Britt, plus a kid stashed on the practice squad who looks like a Welker/Edelman clone. That could be the best WR group Brady has had.

 

[outlaw]

I could see the Pats going after Joe Thomas.

announced he plans to retire today

 

[Husky25]

Each of the 4 players signed away from the Patriots have a Super Bowl ring and three of them have two. They have hardware and with (granted, both of them are G.O.A.T.s) a 41 year old starting QB and a head coach in his mid-60's, more hardware might not be guaranteed...even in the short run.

All four are looking at or are already on the wrong side of 30 years old. No doubt they are looking to get paid at this point and the Patriots didn't see the value.

 

[Devland]

Letting Solder walk was not a real surprise. The Patriots under Belichick have had a history of letting players leave a little too early rather than too late. Couple that with the concerns about his concussion history and you knew there was a good chance that he was going to walk.

 

[Palatine]

Letting Solder walk was not a real surprise. The Patriots under Belichick have had a history of letting players leave a little too early rather than too late. Couple that with the concerns about his concussion history and you knew there was a good chance that he was going to walk.

They didn't "let Solder walk." They offered him less money.

 

[intlzncster]

Thats why the Giants overpaid because they know the Pats wouldn't match, if the Giants did a slight overpay I think Solder would have gone back to the Pats for less money but a massive overpay Solder couldn't turn it down. I could see the Pats going after Joe Thomas.

Also, the Giants were forced to overpay because 1. Reese left them with squadoosh in the cupboard and 2. there were barely any other quality tackles available.

Is what it is. Pats couldn't come close to matching that.

EOD, Eli's probably happy.

 

[Husky25]

They didn't "let Solder walk." They offered him less money.

The Midday show said the Patriots are about $25M under the cap before any restructuring. If they saw the free agent value in any of the 3 players who played a non-special teams snap, they would have made the offer.

 

[Devland]

They didn't "let Solder walk." They offered him less money.

In free agency not extending your self to make an offer close to what another team offers = letting them walk. The Patriots had a price. He got an offer over that price so they let him walk. It's a pretty simple concept.

 

[Scoe]

Also, the Giants were forced to overpay because 1. Reese left them with squadoosh in the cupboard and 2. there were barely any other quality tackles available.

Is what it is. Pats couldn't come close to matching that.

EOD, Eli's probably happy.

That too and they missed out on the Andrew Norwell who signed with the Jags instead despite the Giants offering him more money.

 

[Scoe]

announced he plans to retire today

Yeah too bad he was always on awful teams but your long term health is more important this will be more of the norm seeing guys retire early.

 

[outlaw]

EOD, Eli's probably happy.

 

[Scoe]

Also, the Giants were forced to overpay because 1. Reese left them with squadoosh in the cupboard and 2. there were barely any other quality tackles available.

Is what it is. Pats couldn't come close to matching that.

EOD, Eli's probably happy.

Reese was Kevin Ollie bad and Mcadoo was Bob Diaco bad.

 

[uconnfan68]

I'm hoping this will at least give us some money to retool the defense, which should be better now that Patricia is gone.

Also, I hope they sign Jordy Nelson.

From what I remember seeing they have a very low amount of cap money to get anyone. And they seriously need 2-3 OL.

 

[DoctorWho85]

From what I remember seeing they have a very low amount of cap money to get anyone. And they seriously need 2-3 OL.

That they do. They also need more depth at LB, DB and DL too. Hopefully Schiano can make a competent defense. Something Patricia never seemed to be able to do. His best year as a coordinator he had Browner and Revis at corner.

 

[uconnfan68]

That they do. They also need more depth at LB, DB and DL too. Hopefully Schiano can make a competent defense. Something Patricia never seemed to be able to do. His best year as a coordinator he had Browner and Revis at corner.

They got much better over the course of last year, but were still missing some pieces of an elite defense. I thought they generally did a decent job when they needed it, but their offense is their best defense.