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brasssbonanzaa said:
You must've found the minority of BC hockey fans who have logic and sanity. Save yourself the time and money tomorrow night, Ferris has no shot. No shot. BC is just that dam good, especially playing against teams who've never seen them in person. I watched the game on TV and correctly predicted three goals 30 seconds before they happened when Minnesota fell for their little tricks. Ridiculous squad they've got there. I just threw up in my mouth.
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My boys wanted to go, so we got the tickets. It was sold out. Channelside (where the Tampa Bay Times Forum is) was busy last night. We live about a mile from it, so we ride our bikes.
 
This hockey thread got some memories going. Was a season's ticket holder to the Whalers with a couple of other guys. Travelers provided an employee discount since this was at the start when several of the companies in town had an interest in the team. Was going to Montreal on business and my wife was going with me for the weekend. Whalers were going to be at the old forum for the first game of the season. Called the Whale front office to see if I could get tickets and they said sorry but provided me with the number of the Canadien ticket office. I called and explained my situation to a pleasant guy on the phone who told me that they asked season ticket holders who could not make a game to turn their tickets in for credit so they could resell. Took my name and told me to call the day of the game. When I called he told me two would be waiting for me at will call for face. The Whalers got crushed.
 
John Greene said:
The Whalers got crushed.
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Sadly a common occurrence. College hockey for me was what brought me back to my childhood love of hockey and the Whalers. When they left, I was 10, and was really starting to get into playing the sport a lot, but lost my interest after they left, and I stopped following hockey all together. When I got to BU and went to my first game, just so happened to be against BC, I was hooked from the start, and it rekindled my passion for the sport, and I haven't looked back since. Hopefully, UConn playing some meaningful hockey would do the same for others in CT.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
Sadly a common occurrence. College hockey for me was what brought me back to my childhood love of hockey and the Whalers. When they left, I was 10, and was really starting to get into playing the sport a lot, but lost my interest after they left, and I stopped following hockey all together. When I got to BU and went to my first game, just so happened to be against BC, I was hooked from the start, and it rekindled my passion for the sport, and I haven't looked back since. Hopefully, UConn playing some meaningful hockey would do the same for others in CT.
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Hockey can grab you like that. Growing up in the 60's there was not much exposure in central CT. I had gone to see a couple of games as a kid in the old New Haven arena, it was so old that they had chicken wire above the boards to stop pucks, but the atmosphere there was deadly. Then when the Whalers came to Hartford in 75 I went to the first game at the old HCC with three guys from work. There were probably 10-12,000 there most of whom didn't even know the basic rules of the game. Anyway the Whalers won 4-3 on OT and as the saying goes the rest is history. The next day we bought season tickets just inside the blue line 4 rows below the break. Saw a lot of good and bad hockey from those seats. One of the greatest memories was Gordie Howe taking out the Russian goalie with a stiff elbow right after the opening face off of an exhibition game. He got 2 minutes and one of the biggest roars I ever heard at the HCC.
 
John Greene said:
Hockey can grab you like that. Growing up in the 60's there was not much exposure in central CT. I had gone to see a couple of games as a kid in the old New Haven arena, it was so old that they had chicken wire above the boards to stop pucks, but the atmosphere there was deadly. Then when the Whalers came to Hartford in 75 I went to the first game at the old HCC with three guys from work. There were probably 10-12,000 there most of whom didn't even know the basic rules of the game. Anyway the Whalers won 4-3 on OT and as the saying goes the rest is history. The next day we bought season tickets just inside the blue line 4 rows below the break. Saw a lot of good and bad hockey from those seats. One of the greatest memories was Gordie Howe taking out the Russian goalie with a stiff elbow right after the opening face off of an exhibition game. He got 2 minutes and one of the biggest roars I ever heard at the HCC.
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My first exposure to hockey in person was the first season on the New Haven Nighthawks in the, then new, New Haven Colleseum. Aging Willie O'Ree scored the game winner in a 2-1 Nighthawk victory before @ 4500 patrons. The old Channel 18 in Hartofrd used to carry the WSBK-Boston feed of all Bruins games, so I became a Bruin fan in Bobby Orr's rookie year. One more Nighthawk memory was the 'Hawks beating the Russian National team with the great Tretiak in goal. I couldn't thank my dad enough for taking me to that exhibition game.
 
John Greene said:
This hockey thread got some memories going. Was a season's ticket holder to the Whalers with a couple of other guys. Travelers provided an employee discount since this was at the start when several of the companies in town had an interest in the team. Was going to Montreal on business and my wife was going with me for the weekend. Whalers were going to be at the old forum for the first game of the season. Called the Whale front office to see if I could get tickets and they said sorry but provided me with the number of the Canadien ticket office. I called and explained my situation to a pleasant guy on the phone who told me that they asked season ticket holders who could not make a game to turn their tickets in for credit so they could resell. Took my name and told me to call the day of the game. When I called he told me two would be waiting for me at will call for face. The Whalers got crushed.
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I was a season ticket holder for the Whalers (now season tickets for the Lightning), and one night I was there with a huge cowbell and the guy next to me told me that he is discussing BUSINESS with a client and asked me to stop my cowbell or he'll get management involved.

I never stopped ringing my COWBELL (an antique cowbell that made noise) and the guy couldn't do anything about it. :)
 
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brasssbonanzaa said:
Sadly a common occurrence. College hockey for me was what brought me back to my childhood love of hockey and the Whalers. When they left, I was 10, and was really starting to get into playing the sport a lot, but lost my interest after they left, and I stopped following hockey all together. When I got to BU and went to my first game, just so happened to be against BC, I was hooked from the start, and it rekindled my passion for the sport, and I haven't looked back since. Hopefully, UConn playing some meaningful hockey would do the same for others in CT.
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When I was 12, the Whalers MOVED to the new HCC...boy, I'm old!! I used to play hockey at the South Windsor Arena.
 
coachcap said:
My first exposure to hockey in person was the first season on the New Haven Nighthawks in the, then new, New Haven Colleseum. Aging Willie O'Ree scored the game winner in a 2-1 Nighthawk victory before @ 4500 patrons. The old Channel 18 in Hartofrd used to carry the WSBK-Boston feed of all Bruins games, so I became a Bruin fan in Bobby Orr's rookie year. One more Nighthawk memory was the 'Hawks beating the Russian National team with the great Tretiak in goal. I couldn't thank my dad enough for taking me to that exhibition game.
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Willie O'Ree the first Black in the NHL!!
 
Boston College won...:(. Oh well, maybe UCONN could be the NATIONAL CHAMPS someday!!! :)
 
HuskeyDogArt said:
Boston College won...:(. Oh well, maybe UCONN could be the NATIONAL CHAMPS someday!!! :)
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blargh. made me sick, now they're tied with my guys in the banner department. and to boot, that kid Gaudreau who scored that sick goal in the late 3rd very likely would've ended up at BU this season had our guy that quit mid-season to play in Canada instead decided to quit over the offseason last year. sucks. looks like Tampa was a quality host though by all accounts.
 
My first game was The Beanpot first round when I was in elementary school. My father's brother had tickets and couldn't go so he game them to us. Two great games whith incredible intensity...BC lost ot Northeastern in OT in th eopener and BU beat Harvard in the 2nd game. Clsoe for 2 periods, but BU pulled away in the 3rd. I have been a fan ever since. I followed UCONN when I was a student. I get to a few UCONN games every year and hope to get to more if they upgrade.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
blargh. made me sick, now they're tied with my guys in the banner department. and to boot, that kid Gaudreau who scored that sick goal in the late 3rd very likely would've ended up at BU this season had our guy that quit mid-season to play in Canada instead decided to quit over the offseason last year. sucks. looks like Tampa was a quality host though by all accounts.
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I think the NCAA was impressed with us being host that I think we might get the Frozen Four back. Channelside (where the Tampa Bay Times Forum is located) and YborCity (a historical part of Tampa) had lots of people visiting.
 
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freescooter said:
My first game was The Beanpot first round when I was in elementary school. My father's brother had tickets and couldn't go so he game them to us. Two great games whith incredible intensity...BC lost ot Northeastern in OT in th eopener and BU beat Harvard in the 2nd game. Clsoe for 2 periods, but BU pulled away in the 3rd. I have been a fan ever since. I followed UCONN when I was a student. I get to a few UCONN games every year and hope to get to more if they upgrade.
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I would love to see UConn upgrade, then I would love to see UAH go into AH in place of UConn. UAH might be a champion if they have a league. I don't think College Hockey is done...I think in 5 to 10 years you might see NC, NC State, GA State and USF with teams.
 
HuskeyDogArt said:
I think the NCAA was impressed with us being host that I think we might get the Frozen Four back. Channelside (where the Tampa Bay Times Forum is located) and YborCity (a historical part of Tampa) had lots of people visiting.
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It'll be a few years before it comes back probably, I think the NCAA is a little concerned that it did not sell out. But fan reviews are mostly very positive. They do have a "rotation" for the FF to get it to Boston, Detroit, Minnesota, and Denver, and then throw in some other hotbeds like Pittsburgh/Philly/DC. There's a lot of rumblings that it'll go to Nashville, and a lot of people want a FF in Chicago for obvious reasons.

Boston needs to get its act together and submit something more than a half-assed bid, they've been passed over twice because of the Jacobs' family/city's inability to submit something worthwhile. They think they can write their name in crayon on a piece of paper and get it whenever they want. In reality, if they submit a realistic bid, they will get it since it hasn't been here since 2004, but the success of places like DC, Tampa, etc. means the NCAA isn't going to award it because the name on the paper says Boston. Of course, this pisses off all of us HE fans because we have to travel far for a FF when there's a huge hotbed in our backyard. If UConn does make the move, and the FF comes back here, it would be a really great event for fans to drive up and see, lots and lots of fun, especially if one of the Boston teams is in it.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
I doubt they'd go 8K, probably more in the 5 range. ND's new arena is 5. 8 is bigger than what everyone else in HE draws, so it's a bit unrealistic to think UConn would draw those numbers. Only Amherst's rink is above 8, and they only come close to filling it by giving out literally thousands and thousands of free tickets to students to fill half of the arena, and purposely looking the other way in terms of letting them bring alcohol into the games, so the students will continue to show up since they can get drunk at the game. Wish I were joking about that.
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Cornell's Lynah is only about 5k and it's jam packed - gottat give students alot of the tickets. Been to a couple of games, sitting in the student section on the glass at the blue line - one of the best venues. Great tradition - no reason we can't get there.
 
Drumguy said:
Cornell's Lynah is only about 5k and it's jam packed - gottat give students alot of the tickets. Been to a couple of games, sitting in the student section on the glass at the blue line - one of the best venues. Great tradition - no reason we can't get there.
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4,200. plus, Cornell has been playing hockey for almost 100 years and has multiple national titles, and no other major sports. not the greatest school to use as a comparison, but you're 100% right that hockey fanbases start with students/alumni and local youth teams. that's why playing games in Hartford would be a horrible idea. The students won't show up, it would cost the youth teams more to go to the game with higher parking/concessions costs, not to mention the atmosphere of playing in front of 11,000 empty seats would be horrendous. from a recruiting perspective, you can go to uconn and bus 40 minutes to every home game and play in an old, cavernous, empty building, or you can play at a place like lowell or amherst (realistic schools to recruit against), play on campus in front of more students, and have over half the place full every night.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
It'll be a few years before it comes back probably, I think the NCAA is a little concerned that it did not sell out. But fan reviews are mostly very positive. They do have a "rotation" for the FF to get it to Boston, Detroit, Minnesota, and Denver, and then throw in some other hotbeds like Pittsburgh/Philly/DC. There's a lot of rumblings that it'll go to Nashville, and a lot of people want a FF in Chicago for obvious reasons.
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I'll say that Jeff Vincik, the Lightning owner, is trying to promote hockey here. The Lightning got a team that might be in the playoffs next year (our goaltending was bad this year) if we get a goalie.
Youth hockey is getting popular here. Of course, it won't be like it is up in New England, Minnesota or Canada, but you'll see kids from Florida in the NHL in about 5 to 10 years.

Boston needs to get its act together and submit something more than a half-assed bid, they've been passed over twice because of the Jacobs' family/city's inability to submit something worthwhile. They think they can write their name in crayon on a piece of paper and get it whenever they want. In reality, if they submit a realistic bid, they will get it since it hasn't been here since 2004, but the success of places like DC, Tampa, etc. means the NCAA isn't going to award it because the name on the paper says Boston. Of course, this pisses off all of us HE fans because we have to travel far for a FF when there's a huge hotbed in our backyard. If UConn does make the move, and the FF comes back here, it would be a really great event for fans to drive up and see, lots and lots of fun, especially if one of the Boston teams is in it.
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I think Boston would be a great place to host the Frozen Four. If Hartford would replace the HCC/ XL Center...maybe Hartford would have one.
 
Boston has hosted many FF's, but none since 2004, and none through 2014, which is a long drought for a place like this. Hartford has no shot, too small. The NCAA has shown they're moving away from small-ish cities that they used to do, such as Buffalo, Cincinnati, Albany, Providence, etc. They want to keep it in larger and bigger sports towns like Pittsburgh, Philly, DC, etc. in addition to the usual rotation of Minnesota/Detroit/Denver/Boston.
 
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HuskeyDogArt said:
I'll say that Jeff Vincik, the Lightning owner, is trying to promote hockey here. The Lightning got a team that might be in the playoffs next year (our goaltending was bad this year) if we get a goalie.
Youth hockey is getting popular here. Of course, it won't be like it is up in New England, Minnesota or Canada, but you'll see kids from Florida in the NHL in about 5 to 10 years.



I think Boston would be a great place to host the Frozen Four. If Hartford would replace the HCC/ XL Center...maybe Hartford would have one.
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Hartford would more likely be a site for a Regional. Manchester, New hampshire, Bridgeport, those are the kind of cities that host regionals. The NCAA is trying to move the Finals to major centers.

As to the growth of youth hockey in florida, I tend to agree to at least some point. You are already seeing players from Florida showing up on college rosters...not by the hundreds by any stretch, but a few here and there.
 
A lot of folks don't realize that the players LOVE playing in cities like Phoenix, Miami and Tampa. They can golf year-round, the weather is great, there's no state taxes in the two states mentioned, you get a ton of cash, and can live in anonymity in the city.

For players, this isn't my-city-cares-more-than-your-city stuff. These are quality of life decisions.

Phoenix beats Edmonton. Senseless.
 
BCU had a great year and a nice run through the NCAAT on the way to another ship. I hope I wasn't the only one that enjoyed the fact that all this UConn puck talk happened during there most important time of year. Those fans had to listen and hate the rumors of UConn upgrading while trying to enjoy there great season ending in a ship. LOL
 
HuskyfanDan said:
BCU had a great year and a nice run through the NCAAT on the way to another ship. I hope I wasn't the only one that enjoyed the fact that all this UConn puck talk happened during there most important time of year. Those fans had to listen and hate the rumors of UConn upgrading while trying to enjoy there great season ending in a ship. LOL
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I can guarantee you they didn't give one crap about UConn joining HE, and quite honestly, they shouldn't have. UConn's not going to be able to compete or recruit against them consistently for a long time. Then again, right now, no one else in the country is competing or recruiting against them. But if you listen to the discussion amongst their fans, they really didn't care much at all about UConn joining, and it wasn't a very big story compared to what they achieved.
 
freescooter said:
Hartford would more likely be a site for a Regional. Manchester, New hampshire, Bridgeport, those are the kind of cities that host regionals. The NCAA is trying to move the Finals to major centers.
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With a new arena....Hartford could enjoy a few regionals (MBB and Hockey).

As to the growth of youth hockey in florida, I tend to agree to at least some point. You are already seeing players from Florida showing up on college rosters...not by the hundreds by any stretch, but a few here and there.
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True... but with people moving to low tax states and right to work states, you might see more Texans, Floridians and Georgians in the NHL... and also I was looking at the IIHF website... and who knows WHEN you'll see an Arab in the NHL...(Turkey is ranked #37)
 
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HuskeyDogArt said:
... and who knows WHEN you'll see an Arab in the NHL...(Turkey is ranked #37)
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The latter may be accurate, but the purported Arab would have to be quite the minority if he was from Turkey. The vast majority of Turks are Turkic and Central Asian with a smaller percentage of European background. By contrast, even fewer Turks are Arab.
 
HuskeyDogArt said:
and who knows WHEN you'll see an Arab in the NHL...(Turkey is ranked #37)
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Probably sooner than you think with the number of Muslim immigrants in Scandinavia and Canada. A fair number of whom are from Arab nations. The one thing I always get a kick out of are the Indian kids (not Native American, just to make the distinction) playing hockey with my son in his youth league. There's just something wonderfully incongruous about an Indian hockey player.
 
Per Jacobs this morning, Malloy is pushing for games in Hartford. Anything other than the holiday tournaments and games during school.breaks would be a huge (UUUGE) mistake. I hope someone can convince him of this.

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IMind said:
Probably sooner than you think with the number of Muslim immigrants in Scandinavia and Canada. A fair number of whom are from Arab nations. The one thing I always get a kick out of are the Indian kids (not Native American, just to make the distinction) playing hockey with my son in his youth league. There's just something wonderfully incongruous about an Indian hockey player.
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For years it was a schock to see African American players, though they are still relatively rare. But like all sports I guess if you are raised in an area where hockey is played, it is pretty likely that you'll play at least some exposure to hockey and you might even play it.
 
Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
The latter may be accurate, but the purported Arab would have to be quite the minority if he was from Turkey. The vast majority of Turks are Turkic and Central Asian with a smaller percentage of European background. By contrast, even fewer Turks are Arab.
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Yes, I did goofed up on that statement. UAE is a member of the IIHF, thou...
 
IMind said:
Probably sooner than you think with the number of Muslim immigrants in Scandinavia and Canada. A fair number of whom are from Arab nations. The one thing I always get a kick out of are the Indian kids (not Native American, just to make the distinction) playing hockey with my son in his youth league. There's just something wonderfully incongruous about an Indian hockey player.
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India is a member of IIHF... I think you'll see some players from the non-traditional nations. I think that you might see Somalians in the NHL (since Maine got a bunch in Auburn). Anyone for a Jamaican Ice Hockey Team in the Olympics? :)
 
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