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intlzncster said:
Can't imagine someone in the trades who wouldn't open up sheet rock. Everybody does it all the time, plumbers and electricians included. An $8 jab saw from HD will cut you a relatively nice neat shape.
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Guess it reflects current market conditions, the plumbers, electricians, or other tradesman, the prospective customer, or some combo. Aside from admittedly the real possibility of customer considerations in my case ;), we had one of each effectively say "Thanks, but no thanks. I don't cut sheet rock. Or, I'm too busy to bother now".

Granted, good tradesman pretty much dictate whatever they want to do or not to do, charge reasonable profit+bonus rates, etc. in our market. Hence, even this unskilled clown (me) successfully opened up some sheet rock, cut some holes under the watchful gaze of a far more skilled, experienced, and omniscient retired EE neighbor, prepped pipe access for plumber repairs, flipped out old switches for GFIs and powerful new bathroom fans, and running G6 cable to several rooms. Guy's a Grandfatherly God-send, saves me good dinero, and keeps sharing his time-tested, well-made tools, e.g., "I've got a few of them, just keep it. You'll help me with something later".
 
Fishy said:
the only thing between us and the Catskills and Shawangunks is open air.
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Back before my health deserted me, and I used to hike, I did the Shawagunk Ridge trail one year. In the summer. I damned near froze on the Tip of Gertrude's Nose. That is the actual name of a real place. It's not Mount Washington, but it sure was cold and windy when everywhere else was hot and sticky.

It’s maybe 52 or 53 in there right now - we’re sleeping in one of the guest rooms this weekend.
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I've turned it up a bit this week for the sake of the plumbing, but normally, our thermostat is programmed to kick down to 53 at night.
 
RichZ said:
Back before my health deserted me, and I used to hike, I did the Shawagunk Ridge trail one year. In the summer. I damned near froze on the Tip of Gertrude's Nose. That is the actual name of a real place. It's not Mount Washington, but it sure was cold and windy when everywhere else was hot and sticky.


I've turned it up a bit this week for the sake of the plumbing, but normally, our thermostat is programmed to kick down to 53 at night.
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53 wow. Most people think I'm cruel because I have it at 62/63.
 
intlzncster said:
. Columns on his house and he lives in an icebox.
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It's more strategic than cheap. At times like this it’s extremely difficult to get an oil delivery because the trucks can't get down my driveway so I try to limit them.

I've been stuck multiple times driving back and forth to the gas station with two 5 gallon jugs buying diesel to get through until a delivery can be made.
 
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whaler11 said:
53 wow. Most people think I'm cruel because I have it at 62/63.
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62/63 wow. After blasting our heat up to only 65 during daytime this week, my spouse thinks I'm not only cruel yet also guilty of unusual punishment with it at a balmy 63 overnight. At least the cool front convinced her our heating's too dry even with some humidifier gizmo on overdrive. Slowwwww progress, and we're back to non-operative 62 daytime & as-needed-only 55 overnight with Monday's return to the 40s+.
 
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Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
62/63 wow. After blasting our heat up to only 65 during daytime this week, my spouse thinks I'm not only cruel yet also guilty of unusual punishment with it at a balmy 63 overnight. At least the cool front convinced her our heating's too dry even with some humidifier gizmo on overdrive. Slowwwww progress, and we're back to non-operative 62 daytime & as-needed-only 55 overnight with Monday's return to the 40s+.
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I thought you landed in Florida?
 
Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
62/63 wow. After blasting our heat up to only 65 during daytime this week, my spouse thinks I'm not only cruel yet also guilty of unusual punishment with it at a balmy 63 overnight. At least the cool front convinced her our heating's too dry even with some humidifier gizmo on overdrive. Slowwwww progress, and we're back to non-operative 62 daytime & as-needed-only 55 overnight with Monday's return to the 40s+.
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You are an insane person.
 
intlzncster said:
Anything below 68 and you're a goshdarn maniac.
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Depends on the thermostats some. I got new ones this year and 68 now is hotter than 68 used to be. Babysitter set it to 70 one day and I figured it out because I was sweating sitting still.
 
RichZ said:
Back before my health deserted me, and I used to hike, I did the Shawagunk Ridge trail one year. In the summer. I damned near froze on the Tip of Gertrude's Nose. That is the actual name of a real place. It's not Mount Washington, but it sure was cold and windy when everywhere else was hot and sticky.
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That’s in Minnewaska on the Millbrook Ridge - it’s a beautiful hike.

It’s about 1,800’ feet up, looking over the valley - it does get pretty windy and cold there.

There’s also a Gertrude’s Chin, but it’s less well-known. You were there on the way to the nose.
 
Fishy said:
That’s in Minnewaska on the Millbrook Ridge - it’s a beautiful hike.

It’s about 1,800’ feet up, looking over the valley - it does get pretty windy and cold there.

There’s also a Gertrude’s Chin, but it’s less well-known. You were there on the way to the nose.
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With the PAD, ten minutes is a hike these days. SIGH.
 
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whaler11 said:
It's more strategic than cheap. At times like this it’s extremely difficult to get an oil delivery because the trucks can't get down my driveway so I try to limit them.
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This is a humblebrag without the humble.
 
intlzncster said:
Anything below 68 and you're a goshdarn maniac.
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Depends on where people live, how old an old fart someone is (or isn't), and the actual outdoor temps where one lives, eh? Must really sukk for you and others to be in New England, NY, etc. this week; not envious!
 
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Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
Depends on where people live, how old an old fart someone is (or isn't), and the actual outdoor temps where one lives, eh? Must really sukk for you and others to be in New England, NY, etc. this week; not envious!
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For some reason I thought you were up in Boston area, maybe those temps make more sense somewhere where it is warmer.
 
We were without functioning heat in our addition from December 29th until about an hour ago because our pipes froze overnight when our thermostat batteries died and the thermostat stopped working. The addition is over a car port so there is no basement or even a garage underneath it, and the freeze was apparently somewhere under the floor. I spent the first two days trying desperately to find the freeze and melt it, using a hairdryer on all the copper elbow joints and using space heaters to raise the ambient temperature in the room to 87 degrees, to no avail.

We've been heating the area with space heaters since and hoping for the best, and today is the first time the temps have gotten above freezing since 12/29. I'm actually surprised that it thawed today, given the deep freeze this past weekend and the fact that it is only barely above freezing at home now.

So far, so good in terms of leaks; apparently it is mostly PEX tubing, which I am told is much less likely to leak because it expands and contracts better than copper tubing.

The lesson I have learned is to make sure we always have spare AAA batteries--good ones, not the dead spares my wife grabbed from a plastic bag that night. Also, there is apparently something called a circulator that we can have installed in the loop that will detect if starts to get too cold and will start circulating hot water through the piping to prevent it from freezing. Gonna look into that.
 
TRest said:
For some reason I thought you were up in Boston area, maybe those temps make more sense somewhere where it is warmer.
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Lived among too many Saux fans far too long & over a decade ago, but Boston's weather was another massively compelling reason not to return. When temps inched over freezing to the low 40s, it felt almost balmy. The HVAC appreciates the rest!
 
You all ready to deal with all this stuff melting into your basements this week?!
 
whaler11 said:
I was at the gym when my phone started ringing at 5:30.

Wife calling... ignore.

Then the texts start: Can’t get in driveway - there is a foot of snow. We left car in street and walked in (driveway is 550 feet long).

Ok - whaler is on the way. No way it can be that bad.

The plows latest visit put so much snow in front of the driveway I know neither where it starts nor where the cement is after an hour of shoveling.

When the plow blocked the end of the driveway - it created a place for the blowing snow to settle. The first 200ft of the driveway have 3-4” of blown snow recovering the driveway which is as hard as a rock.

I did enough to get the cars to garage but I don’t even want to know what it’s going to take to be able to get out in the morning.

Fun bonus that the high for the next 72 hours is 12 and the low is -7. Freeze breaks just enough for some more snow and freezing rain on Monday.

I’ve got so many wet pairs of gloves that I shoveled tonight with socks on my hands.

This stretch of weather is as terrible as anything since 96. It was so cold that winter when I was working at WILI I used to let the ladies of the night sleep
in the foyer because letting them freeze to death in Willimantic seemed wrong.
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Hey, at least there is one bonus, living in the snow capitol of the world - CNY - you get so much, you have to have a snowblower. We got 4 feet of snow in the last two weeks. Layup. It amazes me to no end that places like DC can be crippled by 2 inches. Hell, most years, CNY get that every single night between Jan 1 and March 1.

The north wind was a bitch, tho. Blew snow up under the hood of my truck and exacerbated an already annoying short in the electrical system. Battery dead in less than 8 hours.
 
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Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
62/63 wow. After blasting our heat up to only 65 during daytime this week, my spouse thinks I'm not only cruel yet also guilty of unusual punishment with it at a balmy 63 overnight. At least the cool front convinced her our heating's too dry even with some humidifier gizmo on overdrive. Slowwwww progress, and we're back to non-operative 62 daytime & as-needed-only 55 overnight with Monday's return to the 40s+.
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Here's a funny one... You hear about people dressing up in multiple layers in the house with the heat turned down. Crazy, right ?

My office is in our leaky attic. Mostly stays habitable, but in weather like this, it goes down into the 50s, sometimes the 40s. Eh, no big deal, couple shirts, couple pairs of workout pants, big hoody, I'm good. But, I'm in the attic where it's 50 degrees. Then I go downstairs where it's 65 and I'm still wearing layers like a squatter and, who cares, I'm toasty warm! LOL!!!
 
August_West said:
Yes. My pipes have been frozen since Sunday.

Ive been living in a house with no water for 4 days. Give me water back through my faucets and Ill gladly clean some basement water.
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That blows. You gotta thaw tomorrow though, no? Surprised not today actually; should be above freezing there right now, right?
 
8893 said:
We were without functioning heat in our addition from December 29th until about an hour ago because our pipes froze overnight when our thermostat batteries died and the thermostat stopped working. The addition is over a car port so there is no basement or even a garage underneath it, and the freeze was apparently somewhere under the floor. I spent the first two days trying desperately to find the freeze and melt it, using a hairdryer on all the copper elbow joints and using space heaters to raise the ambient temperature in the room to 87 degrees, to no avail.

We've been heating the area with space heaters since and hoping for the best, and today is the first time the temps have gotten above freezing since 12/29. I'm actually surprised that it thawed today, given the deep freeze this past weekend and the fact that it is only barely above freezing at home now.

So far, so good in terms of leaks; apparently it is mostly PEX tubing, which I am told is much less likely to leak because it expands and contracts better than copper tubing.

The lesson I have learned is to make sure we always have spare AAA batteries--good ones, not the dead spares my wife grabbed from a plastic bag that night. Also, there is apparently something called a circulator that we can have installed in the loop that will detect if starts to get too cold and will start circulating hot water through the piping to prevent it from freezing. Gonna look into that.
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Here's another funny one... We moved back to CNY in 2014 and moved into a house we intended to buy. Gorgeous old victorian on the hill, etc. Ended up it was a 2 family house and the market could not come close to supporting the price they wanted, which had already been reduced 30%, so we couldn't get financing. Damn good thing, tho. They had a handyman incompetent do all their work. Remodeled the kitchen. It looked nice, but they put in laminate that was pathetic and radiant heat in the floor. Awesome! Until the outside temp dropped below 32 degrees and the kitchen heat could not keep up. Heat was undersized for the installation. We lucked out on that one. I can only imagine how bad it was this year when temperatures went below zero.
 
8893 said:
That blows. You gotta thaw tomorrow though, no? Surprised not today actually; should be above freezing there right now, right?
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Guys out there all morning morning today. Pipe is Frozen underground in between my well head and house . I have to pray the weather the next 2 days loosens it up or I may be out for months.
 
August_West said:
Guys out there all morning morning today. Pipe is Frozen underground in between my well head and house . I have to pray the weather the next 2 days loosens it up or I may be out for months.
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Mrs. AW and daughter:
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