OT: Ex Husky faced with probation

[mauconnfan]

http://www.courant.com/sports/college/hc-bill-holowaty-0424-20130423,0,7844690.story

Kid's and parent's alike, bunch of pu**ies!!! Wild Bill is an old school coach, may grab a kid to make him listen or verbally confront a player here or there but c'mon man. What the hell is this world coming to? He's a tough nosed, passionate coach who loves to win....if you don't share the same then go elsewhere. This Rice thing opened up the flood gates I'm afraid!

Not the way for a guy who has done so much for Eastern to go out, they better fix it.

 

[uconnfan68]

http://www.courant.com/sports/college/hc-bill-holowaty-0424-20130423,0,7844690.story

Kid's and parent's alike, bunch of pu**ies!!! Wild Bill is an old school coach, may grab a kid to make him listen or verbally confront a player here or there but c'mon man. What the hell is this world coming to? He's a tough nosed, passionate coach who loves to win....if you don't share the same then go elsewhere. This Rice thing opened up the flood gates I'm afraid!

Not the way for a guy who has done so much for Eastern to go out, they better fix it.

He's had too many prior incidents. No place left for that degree of confrontational style.

 

[whaler11]

I love Holowaty. I was around the program in 94 when he hit the player. Can't say I blamed him - kid was a jacka**.

I never heard what happened with Risley that he's comfortable burying him in public, but I'm sure it's ugly.

Hard to believe he is pushing 70. He is cooked for sure and it doesn't excuse him - but he did a lot more good than harm over the years.

 

[Danzz]

http://www.courant.com/sports/college/hc-bill-holowaty-0424-20130423,0,7844690.story

Kid's and parent's alike, bunch of pu**ies!!! Wild Bill is an old school coach, may grab a kid to make him listen or verbally confront a player here or there but c'mon man. What the hell is this world coming to? He's a tough nosed, passionate coach who loves to win....if you don't share the same then go elsewhere. This Rice thing opened up the flood gates I'm afraid!

Not the way for a guy who has done so much for Eastern to go out, they better fix it.

I played against Holowaty's Uconn team that also included his basketball teamate Tom Penders (swept them in a DH including a nono by Fred Cambria).
Guys like Rice and Knight are over the top but I agree that parents are a little too concerned about Johnny's feelings. Holowaty built a great program at a nothing school and he is a tough coach. Is pulling a player by his shirt to a spot on the field where he should have been abuse? Is calling a player a lazy fat ass for not hustling abuse? I don't see the big deal but I also don't think that style is particularly effective today.
The kids today don't play unless the game is organized and they have a number on their back. They all get trophys no matter how bad they suck. Take that and combine it with an old school coach and you have potential event.

 

[Rico444]

I played against Holowaty's Uconn team that also included his basketball teamate Tom Penders (swept them in a DH including a nono by Fred Cambria).
Guys like Rice and Knight are over the top but I agree that parents are a little too concerned about Johnny's feelings. Holowaty built a great program at a nothing school and he is a tough coach. Is pulling a player by his shirt to a spot on the field where he should have been abuse? Is calling a player a lazy fat ass for not hustling abuse? I don't see the big deal but I also don't think that style is particularly effective today.
The kids today don't play unless the game is organized and they have a number on their back. They all get trophys no matter how bad they suck. Take that and combine it with an old school coach and you have potential event.

I would say hitting a kid is over the top. I would say throwing a helmet into the stands where it could easily hit a young child is over the top.

 

[cohenzone]

Although Holowaty was a classmate of mine, I don't know the guy at all. I find it interesting that people are willing to tolerate this or that bit of bad physical reaction from a sports coach of young people that they would never accept elsewhere. Let the chips fall where they may. It is entirely possible for a single really bad act to warrant harsh discipline even for someone who has done a lot of good things. It is only sports.

 

[UC990411]

I went to Hollowaty's camp, one of the things I remember is him getting wicked pissed off and yelling something along the lines of, "If you don't care don't come back here, I care, if you want to go to a camp where someone doesn't care, go to Calhoun's, he's never there!!!"

 

[whaler11]

I played against Holowaty's Uconn team that also included his basketball teamate Tom Penders (swept them in a DH including a nono by Fred Cambria).
Guys like Rice and Knight are over the top but I agree that parents are a little too concerned about Johnny's feelings. Holowaty built a great program at a nothing school and he is a tough coach. Is pulling a player by his shirt to a spot on the field where he should have been abuse? Is calling a player a lazy fat ass for not hustling abuse? I don't see the big deal but I also don't think that style is particularly effective today.
The kids today don't play unless the game is organized and they have a number on their back. They all get trophys no matter how bad they suck. Take that and combine it with an old school coach and you have potential event.

I was trading emails with a former player of Holowaty's today about the Jacobs article. His point: Holowaty called me A, B, and C... Eh. He was right.

It's amazing he lasted that long at maybe the most politically correct place in the world.

Holowaty is a little nuts, but he's nothing like Rice or Knight. The school could have fixed this long ago but instead they let the small things pile up to where they couldn't be ignored anymore.

 

[hamster]

Spent four years dealing with the pompous bully when he was the most blatantly baseball biased Athletic Director in History and basically a fungus to the coaches of the other sports.

He was a jackwagon then, and is still a jackwagon. He has a chip on his shoulder that age has not mellowed. Maybe a quarter of his ex-players love him the rest not so much. By the way, almost everyone loved the Ris.

 

[mauconnfan]

My brother played for both of them for a year before he signed with the Mets in the summer.......said as a frosh he was scared more of Ris (although Ris was a good guy) and Wild Bill was a little nutty but just an old school coach who was tough on you but also someone you could have some laughs with......pulling shirts and a nudge back to your position, a little "keep your head down don't be a pu**y" on a ground ball.......yeah I get it that kids nowadays are different but I'm guessing anyone who thinks he was anything but a little "over the top" never played real competitive baseball or grew up in the days that was just part of trying to be the best. What does he "HIT" a player mean? Give me the details, was it a push, a little forearm to the chest showing him how to get his ass down ready to catch a ground ball or dive? What was it? And the helmet - yeah that's BAD I get that but I guess no one else made a mistake in their lives.........You want to win, get better, play in national tourneys you go to Eastern in the 70's,80's,90's for sure.......better be ready but if you want to be pampered and lose - go somewhere else!!........crappy job by Eastern!!

 

[Huskies4ever]

"If you don't care don't come back here, I care, if you want to go to a camp where someone doesn't care, go to Calhoun's, he's never there!!!"

Whoa! Somebody's got penis envy

 

[huskymedic]

Old-school Holowaty victim of new era: http://www.ctpost.com/sports/articl...y-victim-of-new-era-4469280.php?cmpid=twitter

"It seems a select few players -- and parents -- would rather be coached by Danny Tanner from the TV show "Full House" than someone who screams and curses. That's probably always been the case. Some kids want to be pampered. The problem is, today, administrations have become ultra-sensitive to anything that could be construed as "crossing the line," even if the majority deems it normal coach behavior. After all, no one wants to have the next Rutgers scandal on their hands."

 

[Oxford Bob]

I played for him in the 80's, definately an over-the-top hardass, but it was a different era back then. Coach would tell you to run through the fence to get a ball that's what you did, he was the coach. I could see how his style doesn't fit todays kids. I'm not condoning what he's done, it's bad for the game and for the school. However, he did do a lot for me when I got to school there and I'm forever thankful for that.

As far as the spat between him and Ris, I forgot what actually started it, but it led to the transfer of one of the Risley kids. Sean was All New England his soph and jr years then left for Marietta his sr year where he led the nation in hits.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Is it the kids that are different today? I don't know. I don't know what it is. I last played competitive sports in the late 90s, for a coach who was a screaming, red-ass maniac. I was pulled off the field by my face mask more times than I can count. I never took it all that personally though, and the next day it was as if it never happened. I saw him about a year ago and we laughed about a pre-season scrimmage against another team where he literally stopped the game to march onto the field and scream in my face for 30 seconds. It was embarrassing, sure, but the only real negative effect was I took a bunch of **** from my friends on the bus home. And I probably didn't make the same mistake again.

I don't have kids yet (that I know of) but if one of them played for a coach like that my attitude would probably be "kids respond to discipline, and getting reamed out gets a point across sometimes." Now, if "discipline" meant getting punched in the face that's something different entirely, but I agree that administrations seem to be erring on the side of "everyone does a great job all the time" more and more, and I don't think that's a good thing.

Point being, I'm rambling and have no idea what I'm trying to say.

 

[mauconnfan]

I played for him in the 80's, definately an over-the-top hardass, but it was a different era back then. Coach would tell you to run through the fence to get a ball that's what you did, he was the coach. I could see how his style doesn't fit todays kids. I'm not condoning what he's done, it's bad for the game and for the school. However, he did do a lot for me when I got to school there and I'm forever thankful for that.

As far as the spat between him and Ris, I forgot what actually started it, but it led to the transfer of one of the Risley kids. Sean was All New England his soph and jr years then left for Marietta his sr year where he led the nation in hits.

Ris's kid was talented, good hitter - rah rah sort of kid though like many of the kids from ECSU........played against an all-Eastern team in the Norwich tourney with one of Ris's kids and the big 1st baseman Archie ? - they were all chatter, loud obnoxious youngsters and we were older guys from Katz Sport Shop and the GHTL but dismantled them in a huge way, they didn't talk after the 3rd inning.......we had a 36 yr old ex-AAA Cards pitcher on the mound and he schooled them and we got 32 hits.....seriously 32, it was ugly.......one thing I never liked about ECSU or even UConn for that matter, they were allowed to get all caught up on the verbal wars with pitchers and hitters from the dugout, always thought that was bush league but that's because I was always coached to do it with the bat and glove not the mouth!! Never respected Wild Bill or Blaylock because of that!