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TheChamps990411 said:
Im not a Patriot or Brady fan but the witch hunt that has gone on with Brady is a disgrace!
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That is the price that comes with success in this day and age. You get called a cheater. Ask Jim Calhoun. They understand. So should we.
 
noeynox said:
In any event, the fact that Peyton's wife was getting HGH mailed to her all the time doesn't set off alarms in people's minds???

Supposedly Taylor Teagarden is on the video discussing his PED use from the previous year? This Delta-2 stuff is undetectable? There is a lot to digest there.
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I don't think they denied Peyton's wife got PEDs mailed to her, but I don't think it was proven, either, unless I missed it (feel free to link me in that case).

According to Will Carroll they do test for Delta 2 and it's pretty easy to detect. Maybe not in 2011? Who knows.
 
auror said:
I don't think they denied Peyton's wife got PEDs mailed to her, but I don't think it was proven, either, unless I missed it (feel free to link me in that case).

According to Will Carroll they do test for Delta 2 and it's pretty easy to detect. Maybe not in 2011? Who knows
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HGH was banned in 2011, but per collective bargaining, testing didn't start for HGH until 2014. According to the report, Peyton started up in 2011.

The blood testing procedure in the NFL is not without flaws as well, apparently.
 
Devland said:
That is the price that comes with success in this day and age. You get called a cheater. Ask Jim Calhoun. They understand. So should we.
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Should we ask the Warriors? The Blackhawks? The Royals? McIlroy? Kevin Ollie?
 
Bryan Lord said:
HGH is amazing.. My post/like ratio has nearly doubled since I started on it. Pretty soon I'll have more likes than that Memphis fan that always says nice things about us.
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14 likes... story checks out. If tcf's post/like ratio is a reflection of how much he's doping, then the poor guy's balls must be the size of pin heads.
 
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TheChamps990411 said:
I have come to believe at my age (40) that a very high percentage of professional athletes in all the major sports are on peds. Football is absolutely filled to the brim with peds you can bet your on it. Would not be surprised at all if this was true about Peyton. Does it lessen his legacy at all? Not one iota in my eyes.
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Your absolutely right. I think I was real naive about the likes Bonds and Clemens. Thinking they were cheating the game, the fans, and minor leaguers who were being blocked by juicers.

Fact is most were then, and many probably still are doping in pro sports. You just look at size difference in the NFL from SR year LBs in college to how they look going into their 2nd year in the league. Hard to believe that is natural.
 
I could absolutely buy any pro athlete, especially those rehabilitating an injury taking anything and everything. We are so through the looking glass on so and so would never do that.

Please, the average person tweaks a muscle and they are done with just about everything until it heals. These guys beat the everloving heck out of each other and then do it again 7 days later and practice in between? You have Usain Bolt beating all comers by tenths of a second breaking decades old records set by known juicers (the Lance Armstrong theorem)?

They all take something, the only difference is the fine print on the label.
 
intlzncster said:
Because it helps you accelerate healing from training too. Muscles tears when you lift weights and hgh speeds up the recovery process of tissue repair. Allows you to train more often. Allows you to recover more quickly from games.

It does a whole bunch of things, helps your sleeping patterns, metabolism, more energy, stronger bones, etc etc
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If it doesn't have the terrible side effects of say, anabolic steroids, why is this all a bad thing? Why is it worse than stuffing toradol pills in players mouths?
 
UCHuskies08 said:
If it doesn't have the terrible side effects of say, anabolic steroids, why is this all a bad thing? Why is it worse than stuffing toradol pills in players mouths?
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Search me man, I don't have the answer.
 
intlzncster said:
Al Jazeera is probably far less biased and inaccurate than ESPN. That's not exactly saying much of course.
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I'm eagerly awaiting the unbiased Al Jazeera version of 30 for 30 - History of the Big East.
 
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John said:
I'm eagerly awaiting the unbiased Al Jazeera version of 30 for 30 - History of the Big East.
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What does something like this even mean?
 
Oops, looks like the Guyer Clinic has already been caught in a bold face lie:



And, unlike ESPN, it looks like Al Jazeera actually fact checks their stories.
 
This screams a situation similar to Lance Armstrong...
 
intlzncster said:
Oops, looks like the Guyer Clinic has already been caught in a bold face lie:



And, unlike ESPN, it looks like Al Jazeera actually fact checks their stories.
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Al Jazeera is a top news agency... that don't care about pandering they just provide the facts.
 
Al Jeez has zero cred. Did you see that woman who wrote the story? What a beast.

Fox said last nite that this was a muzzie attack on the fabric of American culture and heroes. They may have a point.
 
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Rodney Harrison was suspended for taking HGH in 2007, so I do think it was illegal before then.

I'm not sure if it should be if there is no performance enhancement, if it just helps you heel faster. Even if he did take it, I don't think it's cheating.

That being said, Al Jazeera appears to have far more info than they've let on. When the Anti-Aging center said the guy on tape didn't work there in 2011, Al Jazeera put up a video clip of the reporter speaking to someone from the center, full name, who gave the exact date of when the guy started working there in 2011. You'd think the official from the center would have remembered the phone call and informed her superiors. Then the reporter was asked what definitive proof she had that the HGH was mailed other than the guy on tape, and she said the information was confirmed by people in Manning's camp.
 
Best advice for Peyton is to keep his mouth shut going forward and hope all Al Jazeera has is this dope spouting off on the recording. The only thing worse than actually doing the PED's is going all Lance and start suing everyone, only to have Al Jazerra turn up a video of Peyton chugging a bottle of the stuff. You'd think if Peyton wanted HGH, he wouldn't have the stuff mailed to his actual address, and under his wife's name. Seems like you'd want that sent to a P.O. Box or something.
 
upstater said:
Rodney Harrison was suspended for taking HGH in 2007, so I do think it was illegal before then. I'm not sure if it should be if there is no performance enhancement, if it just helps you heel faster. Even if he did take it, I don't think it's cheating.
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It absolutely is performance enhancing. But I too think players should be able to take it, especially in such a physically debilitating sport like football.
 
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upstater said:
You'd think the official from the center would have remembered the phone call and informed her superiors. Then the reporter was asked what definitive proof she had that the HGH was mailed other than the guy on tape, and she said the information was confirmed by people in Manning's camp.
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Notice Manning's camp has offered no denial of HGH being sent to his residence. That I know of.
 
Mots010 said:
Best advice for Peyton is to keep his mouth shut going forward and hope all Al Jazeera has is this dope spouting off on the recording. The only thing worse than actually doing the PED's is going all Lance and start suing everyone, only to have Al Jazerra turn up a video of Peyton chugging a bottle of the stuff. You'd think if Peyton wanted HGH, he wouldn't have the stuff mailed to his actual address, and under his wife's name. Seems like you'd want that sent to a P.O. Box or something.
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Either way, that PO Box has a name associated with it somewhere. Harder to get, yes, but possible.
 
sledog said:
Al Jeez has zero cred. Did you see that woman who wrote the story? What a beast.

Fox said last nite that this was a muzzie attack on the fabric of American culture and heroes. They may have a point.
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Can anyone else picture these words coming out of Comedy Central era Colbert?
 
upstater said:
"HGH you work so good."
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haha
 
He probably took the stuff. I don't care either way, it's a great tool to recover from injuries without harmful side effects like the painkillers the league was pumping for years. I'm a huge Pats fan but i'm not going to cry over the way the media has handled it VS. the Brady situation because i fully expected it. Manning has played footsie with the media/public his entire career and Brady has not. That's it. To the media Manning is the weak and Brady is the tyranny of evil men.
 
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