Since Coco and Uc explained it to you in their post and I agreed with them. I didnt think I needed to respond to you with the same answers they gave. When people feel the need to say Im not looking for an argument. They usually are. I didnt see your post until after they responded. It seems like you knew the answers to your own questions but if you need to hear from me. Let me know Ill type a little slower!
I had lousy service at the hospital where I had been a patient since 4:15 Thursday morning.Just went home today and because I slept about 3 hours the whole time there. I am trying to catch up alittle bit. So that is why I didnt respond. Keeping my foot is my top priority right now!
Hoping it goes well for you. You are very much in our thoughts....
Sorry about the foot--body parts are your first priority---I have a hand and a leg---never mind---you take care of yourself --I can assure you nothing I posted to you was intended as an argument or insult and while some responses are nice to have it isn't a requirement. There are some poster I never respond to. Again take care --the Boneyard should be among your least / last priorities!!!!
BTV --for the acronym lover--to you Before TV--and when BB meant baseball--even on the east coast there were a few good announcers --I'm sure others have borrowed from your Fav's list of ism's because, thou gh I lived only for a couple of years in the san hosey (San Jose) area--I didn't follow the team once call lovingly "The Bums" or the NY Giant --both were aligned with the New London native Benedict Arnold. But I digressBroadway, living here (born here) on the west coast in beautiful and sunny "Southern California", has spoiled me rotten. Since the Dodgers moved here from Brooklyn in 1958, Angelinos have had the pleasure of listening to Hall of Fame broadcaster "Vincent Edward "Vin" Scully" call Dodgers games. No one calls a game like Vinnie!! As most of you know, Scully began calling Dodger games with the legendary (and his mentor) "Red Barber" and Connie Desmond back in 1950 in old Ebbetts Field in Brooklyn New York. The late Jerry Doggett was his broadcast partner when they moved here in 1958. Vinny has seen ALL of the greats. He can tell stories while calling the game, and not miss a beat. Scully can go back to the early 50's to tell a story about a player. No baseball broadcaster alive today can go back that far. Scully (who is 88) is in his 67th and final year with the Dodgers. Scully will be missed.
Until his un-timely death in August 5, 2002, We also had the pleasure of listening to the incomparable Hall of Fame broadcaster Francis Dayle Hearn. AKA "Chick Hearn" call Laker basketball games since March of 1961. The Lakers moved here in 1960 from Minneapolis, and play at the Los Angeles Sports Arena, before moving to the Forum ( in Inglewood, just north of the site where the Rams are building their new stadium) in 1967. For decades, we've had some of the best in the business calling sporting events here in the southland. We've been blessed. The Forum was the place to be during the "show-time" era. Most home games were sold out during this time. Needless to say the local scalpers did a brisk business on game nights.
The particular phrases that Chick used during his broadcasts were labeled "Chickisms". Many are staples of basketball. When a book of his memoirs was published in 2004, it included an audio CD with the calls as well as a Chick Hearn Rap-Around rap song created with the samples. Hearn had a very unique wit and sense of humor. Being a huge Laker fan at the time, I fondly remember everyone of these "Chickisms" .
When you heard Chick call a game, it was almost like being there. Nobody called a game like Chick. Not before, or since, HE was the best!!!
- 20 foot lay-up: A jump shot by Jamaal Wilkes.
- Air-ball: An errant shot that fails to touch either the rim or the backboard.
- (He sent that one back) Air-mail Special!: A strongly blocked shot, often sent high into the stands.
- Bloooows the layup! : Missed a very easy layup.
- Boo-birds: Fans who boo their own team when they play badly.
- (He did the) bunny hop in the pea patch: He was called for traveling.
- (You could) call it with Braille: An easy call for an official, e.g. a blatant foul.
- (He got) caught with his hand in the cookie jar: A reaching foul.
- (The) charity stripe: The free throw line.
- (That player is in) civilians: The player is not in uniform.
- (He's got 'em) covered like the rug on your floor: Really good one-on-one defense.
- (They) couldn't beat the Sisters of Mercy: The team is getting beat badly.
- (They) couldn't throw a pea into the ocean: The team's shooting is really awful.
- (It'll) count if it goes ...: A player that is fouled in the act of shooting, or alternatively gets off a shot just before the buzzer sounded. It go-o-o-oes!: The shot is successful.
- (That shot) didn't draw iron: A shot which misses the rim, but hits the backboard. Sometimes he would add but it drew a lot of flies.
- Dime store score: A 10 to 5 score.
- Dribble-drive: A player drives the basket while dribbling.
- Finger roll: A shot where the ball rolls off the shooter's fingers.
- (He) fly-swatted (that one): A shot blocked with force and authority.
- Football score: A score resembling one often seen in a football game (e.g., 21-14).
- (He threw up a) frozen rope: A shot with a very flat trajectory.
- (We're) high above the western sideline: Chick's perch at the Forum, from which he called his "word's eye view" of the game.
- Hippity-hops the dribble: A player dribbling the ball does a little hop step.
- I'll bet you an ice cream: Hearn and Keith Erickson (his one-time color commentator) often bet ice creams on the outcome of a shot or game.
- (He's got) ice-water in his veins: When a player hits a clutch free throw.
- (It's) First and ten: Multiple players are sprawled on the floor after a physical play or diving for the ball.
- (It's) garbage time: The (often sloppily played) final minutes when reserve players get a chance to play in a game that's out of reach (after it is in the refrigerator).
- Give and Go: A player passes the ball, makes a quick cut, and receives a return pass.
- (In & out,) heart-brrrreak!: A shot that appears to go in, but rattles off the rim and misses. Sometimes it went in so far you could read the Commissioner's name from below.
- He has two chances, slim and none, and slim just left the building: The player has no chance of success with this play.
- If that goes in, I'm walking home: Similar to a prayer, when the opponent shoots a shot that is a prayer, a streak, or some amazing shot. (Usually on the road)
- Leapin' Lena: A shot made while the player is in the air and off balance.
BOTH of these gentlemen have streets named after them near the site of each team's venue.
I understood the direction your comment was aimed, but I just felt like writing today, and got carried away. That happens sometimes.
C'mon Broadway, You know when the Dodgers left for the west coast in 1958, there were no other MLB teams west of St. Louis. The Dodgers had to have another team (a partner) move out west with them. An offer was made to the Dodgers and Giants they could not refuse. The mayor of Los Angeles at the time, Norris Poulson (with the blessing of the City Council), gave then Dodger owner Walter O'Malley the land that Dodger Stadium now sets on for $1.00 (One Dollar). (After all, the west coast was fertile unclaimed land available for the taking). Los Angels wanted a team real bad, and saw this as a "win-win". O'Malley built Dodger Stadium with his own money. All of the people that were living in what was then called "Chavez Ravine" (where Dodger Stadium now sets), were forced to move through eminent domain proceedings. They got screwed, but it was just business.
No true sports fan wants to lose their "home team" to another city. We (Los Angeles area) lost the Rams twice. once from Los Angeles, then again from Anaheim (a suburb of L.A. The home of the happiest place on earth, Disneyland). I'll use a phrase here that has become popular when somebody (a player gets cut/or fined, a team moves to another city) gets screwed..."It's just business".
This is true!! Poulson was scandalous. But it got worst. He was followed by a bigger crook Sam Yorty, the 37th Mayor of Los Angeles from 1961 to 1973. The colorful “Mayor Sam” earned numerous nicknames from both admirers and detractors, such as Travelin’ Sam, Airplane Sam, Shoot-From-the-Lip Sam, the Maverick Mayor, Mad Sam Yorty, Scrappy Sam, Suitcase Sam, Saigon Sam, and the Reform Republican. Yorty was scandalous, and made little effort to hide it. He had the backing of the powerful/wealthy/business folk, and thus felt untouchable.
"The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few" ~ Mr. Spock (Star Trek). This was obviously Poulson's thought process when offering that deal to O'Malley (for the greater good of the city). Poulson was vilified by many L.A. citizens after that. Most of the people displaced by this deal were poor working folks. Poulson (and his successor, Sam Yorty) were a crooked as Lombard Street in San Francisco.
I defer to your comment and apologize to all---got lost in comments is my only excuse. There are few if any WBB
As a born and bred Brooklynite losing the Dodgers to the left was devastating to the entire Brooklyn community which never really recovered. Whenever anyone brings up their betrayal my blood just boils. Yeah, teams move and owners (and players) nowadays show little to no loyalty to communities. But the Dodgers move was never because they were a money losing franchise. On the contrary, they just wanted to make more. O'Malley wanted a new stadium, and when the city seemed to drag its feet and then offered Queens as a site he simply packed his bags. Good riddance. I have a good time now watching the Dodgers lose. I enjoy how they've gotten the Puig and the "come late, leave early" fans they deserve. I especially enjoyed watching the Mets crush them in 5 last year. After all these years I still wish them nothing but the worst. Hold a grudge long? Not me.C'mon Broadway, You know when the Dodgers left for the west coast in 1958, there were no other MLB teams west of St. Louis. The Dodgers had to have another team (a partner) move out west with them. An offer was made to the Dodgers and Giants they could not refuse. The mayor of Los Angeles at the time, Norris Poulson (with the blessing of the City Council), gave then Dodger owner Walter O'Malley the land that Dodger Stadium now sets on for $1.00 (One Dollar). (After all, the west coast was fertile unclaimed land available for the taking). Los Angels wanted a team real bad, and saw this as a "win-win". O'Malley built Dodger Stadium with his own money. All of the people that were living in what was then called "Chavez Ravine" (where Dodger Stadium now sets), were forced to move through eminent domain proceedings. They got screwed, but it was just business.
No true sports fan wants to lose their "home team" to another city. We (Los Angeles area) lost the Rams twice. once from Los Angeles, then again from Anaheim (a suburb of L.A. The home of the happiest place on earth, Disneyland). I'll use a phrase here that has become popular when somebody (a player gets cut/or fined, a team moves to another city) gets screwed..."It's just business".
My In-Laws, wife, and relative if they are any near what the rest of the Brooklyn area (larger than Brooklyn) is common--it is not a subject I now will every approach in their company--this long after...
C'mon Jordy, let it go. It's been 58 years since O'Malley pulled up stakes and headed west. Most the people that were involved with the Dodger organization in 1957 are dead, and none of them are still affiliated with the team. Peter O'Malley sold the Dodgers to Rupert Murdock in 1998. Vin Scully is the only person that was working for the Dodgers in 1957 that's still here. I know you don't hate Vinny, do you?
The Dodgers sucked for many years after coming to L.A. believe me. They broke my heart many-a-time., starting in 1962.All they had to do was win 1 lousy game against the St. Louis Cardinals during the last 3 games (at home) of the year. They lost all 3 forcing a 1 game playoff against the Giants which they lost.
The Dodgers are now owned by a group of business men including former Laker great Magic Johnson. You don't hate Magic do you? He was not even alive when the Dodgers left town in 1957. C'mon Jordy, You're better than that. Let it go. Life is too short too hate and hold grudges.
As you can see I'm not alone. Unlike many teams who have left certain areas Brooklynites still bleed blue. To us it was first being held hostage, then a betrayal. Those of you who can't understand, try to envision the greatest love of your life, the one person/thing you would have died for, leaving you not for love, not for money, but for greed. Then 5 years later beat the (still) hated Yankees. Unforgivable.
Just hold me.
Boston still hasn't gotten completely over trading Babe Ruth to the Yankees and that was a lot longer ago than the Dodger's move.
Your argument is specious. In a small neighborhood ballpark like Ebbets Field was, the Dodgers never averaged more than 23K. In 1956 they drew 15.7K, the most since 1951. 1956 the year after their championship. In 1956 the Yankee's in that cavernous stadium which could hold 100K, the year they won the WS, drew 19K. Your numbers are skewed to today's averages. Teams didn't draw then as they do now. Drawing a million a year then was considered a good drawing team.
Thank you Sky Soldier!
