Isn't it disgusting that extraordinarily good athletes in many cases are empowered in such a way that they feel they can conduct themselves in any fashion that they want and don't have any consequences for their actions. Their sense of entitlement is through the roof. It's really special when you have superbly talented players that are on the other side of the spectrum that are respectful and thoughtful and unassuming and mannerly like Ray Allen was and is along with many others. Pretty sad that all too many aren't!
Guess I don't agree. We discuss university business all the time on this board--such as wondering whether a potential recruit would be swayed by (perceived) better academics, location of the institution, etc, and these subjective decisions have absolutely nothing to do with their women's basketball programs. If an institution has recently been connected with suborning sexual violence--whether or not the charges are true, it is a perception like all other subjective perceptions--it seems to me to be very relevant to discussions of whether female athletes would consider attending that institution. In fact, I think Rocky erred when entitling his thread "OT". To my mind, it is hardly "OT."
Normally I agree with most of your comments and leave minor quibbles alone. However on this one, I must respectfully disagree with you. Here's why-#1 the school is a Baptist University so it's views on sexuality is stated. It does not have to be politically correct. #2 Most schools do not promote sexual orientation comments from anyone as it hurts recruiting of 16, 17 and 18 year players and their families. Unfortunately, too many schools will still put muzzles on coaches orientations. Even one who this Board is currently monitoring is not openly out about herself. That is fine to remain private and should. You come across a bit too PC IMO.
Again, probably best not equate Baylor with UConn. None of alumni have written a book to talk about how they felt repressed and unwelcome at our university.
How do we "know" anything about "what seems"? Most 18-22 yr old students don't discuss their sexuality publicly, so why should we suppose that a very small subset of those students would feel otherwise but be prevented from expressing it? What we do know is that Geno is strongly supportive of his former players outspoken declaration of sexual choice. That is all we know.
I just want to point out that it is all perspective - I don't see ETT as saying anything negative at all. Or particularly "equating" UConn and Baylor. But, like I am, he is an outsider, and insiders perceive outsiders remarks differently.
Thanks for this, but we don't know that "UConn keeps tight controls on their players [regarding their expression of sexual preference]" That's my point. Defending something that someone (Griner) has accused you of by assuming others do it, too.
Perhaps it just seems that way because you are loaded with uncharacteristic bad judgement today? I get it, I'm pretty uncomfortable with what's, allegedly, going on at Baylor. It must be rough if it is your rooting interest.
Oh, we started that a long time ago!
Actually UConn does have tight control on the social media component of all their players, not just WBB. Again, my only point to FF is anyone's sexual orientation is their own business and should be kept private. While I respect Brittany Griners basketball abilities, her maturity level and her personal choices have been a bit of a disaster the way she has played them out in public so using her as an example of free speech is probably not the best option.
I think that there are numerous times people post things that are OT or off topic that get a lot of response from numerous people and sometimes these off topics are out and out silly but if people choose to respond to them, so be it. This particular topic is not anything close to silly because though it obviously is not something related to women's basketball and definitely not to this program, there have been many reports over the years where stellar athletes have abused their celebrity or been given inducements that are reprehensible. All too many "star athletes" have thought themselves entitled to whoever or whatever as a result of America's obsession with great performers and even had boosters or coaches soliciting for them where they feel that anything or anyone they want is theirs for the taking. Maybe it isn't like thousands of cases but even if it was only a handful, it's TOO MANY! Only recently there was that issue with the Louisville men's basketball program and it happens all too often. That "come to our school and we'll set you up with some babes" kind of thing that is reprehensible. It's something that should not be ignored and should be snuffed out because it's just totally wrong. There are some stories that there just isn't "two sides to" and it's pretty apparent that the thing going on at Baylor with their football program is one of those stories. How many others don't get reported because of the ridicule that some women would be subjected to because the implication is "they were asking for it or they're sleazy or they're lying just to get notoriety or the public humiliation or fear of reprisal. There are some real issues in our society and a lot of women are subjected to some bad things that shouldn't be swept under the carpet but brought into the light of the day, in my opinion.