OT: Abbey Wambach sucker punched!

[meyers7]

FIFA issued a 2 game suspension for the offender. Not enough in my books. she should be booted from the games.

Well Colombia most likely has only one more game left. I doubt they make the knockout rounds. She will probably have to serve the other suspension in the CONMEBOL World Cup Qualifications. Unless they have some other competitions prior to that.

 

[speedoo]

and here's yet more background story on Solo and Chastain. Love Abby's quote at the end. She gets it.

U.S. women face Japan ... and shadow of '99

By Mark Zeigler
Friday, July 15, 2011

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/15/us-women-face-japan-and-shadow-99/?print&page=all[/quote]

Yup, Abby does get it.

 

[meyers7]

and here's yet more background story on Solo and Chastain. Love Abby's quote at the end. She gets it.

Have to disagree. I don't think she gets it. I think she just has a different feeling towards them. She was closer to them, played a lot with them. She is kind of the connection between the 99ers and the new generation. As good as the 99ers were, some of them hung on too long and really brought down the team.

 

[boontonbomber]

What Wambach did is perfectly legal since she had 1/2 step on Andrade. All she did was a slight change of direction to head straight towards goal. If Andrade is bothered to this extent by every legal move that causes contact, then she will have a very short soccer career.

i said it was good soccer, nothing illegal. a slight change of direction that would have given her position on andrade.

 

[stamfordhusky]

i said it was good soccer, nothing illegal. a slight change of direction that would have given her position on andrade.

Yes, but you also said: "the move by wambach to impede andrade's progress is good soccer, but it caused the contact, and the resulting loss of temper(and 2 games) for andrade" . . . which led to my post about Andrade, i.e. that if a perfectly normal soccer play - one which happens a hundred times in a normal game -causes her to lose her temper and sucker punch an opponent, then she won't have a very long career.

BTW, your earlier post implied Wambach may have done something illegal, when you talked about her obstructing Andrade and supposedly raising her elbow (which she didn't). (Obstruction is the old soccer terminology for the foul that is now called impeding.)

 

[boontonbomber]

Yes, but you also said: "the move by wambach to impede andrade's progress is good soccer, but it caused the contact, and the resulting loss of temper(and 2 games) for andrade" . . . which led to my post about Andrade, i.e. that if a perfectly normal soccer play - one which happens a hundred times in a normal game -causes her to lose her temper and sucker punch an opponent, then she won't have a very long career.

BTW, your earlier post implied Wambach may have done something illegal, when you talked about her obstructing Andrade and supposedly raising her elbow (which she didn't). (Obstruction is the old soccer terminology for the foul that is now called impeding.)

upon looking further at the video, i must correct myself. i still think it's a good move by wambach, but a referee on the spot probably would have to call her for impeding andrade, and give colombia an indirect. it just seems clear to me that abby moved into andrade's path. an indirect is not dangerous at that point on the field, therefore, abby's move to impede andrade makes good sense. and is pretty common in the game.
i don't think that the video is clear enough for you to say that she didn't raise her elbow, but that's not important anyway.

 

[Icebear]

Impeding Andrade you are kidding, right? The US is on offense and Abby Wambaugh is moving into position. I am not even sure she saw Andrade since she never really turns her head that direction since she is focussed on the team's offensive play ahead of her. She and Andrade are on intersecting paths with Wambaugh in the advance position when Andrade runs up on her from behind and first grabs Abby's right shoulder/arm turning Abby's right arm back, no elbow thrown and then swings from Abby's right with Andrade's right with a roundhouse to Abby's right eye with a closed fist from a semi-blindside position.

 

[OneTrickPony]

Impeding Andrade you are kidding, right? The US is on offense and Abby Wambaugh is moving into position. She and Andrade are on intersecting paths with Wambaugh in the advance position when Andrade runs up on her from behind and first grabs Abby's left shoulder and then swings from Abby's right with a roundhouse to Abby's right eye with a closed fist.

Ice, you have to understand that soccer fans are used to seeing athlete's fall writhing to the ground in a stiff breeze...that have no idea what actual physical contact looks like...

 

[meyers7]

upon looking further at the video, i must correct myself. i still think it's a good move by wambach, but a referee on the spot probably would have to call her for impeding andrade, and give colombia an indirect. it just seems clear to me that abby moved into andrade's path. an indirect is not dangerous at that point on the field, therefore, abby's move to impede andrade makes good sense. and is pretty common in the game.
i don't think that the video is clear enough for you to say that she didn't raise her elbow, but that's not important anyway.

Abby would not have been impeding Lady. No reason to. Abby was trying to get into the box. She wouldn't have been wasting time trying to impede Lady. You don't impede someone when you are on a break in the offensive third of the field.

 

[Icebear]

Ice, you have to understand that soccer fans are used to seeing athlete's fall writhing to the ground in a stiff breeze...that have no idea what actual physical contact looks like...

I cleaned up my description as it miss stated left when I meant right.

 

[Icebear]

Abby would not have been impeding Lady. No reason to. Abby was trying to get into the box. She wouldn't have been wasting time trying to impede Lady. You don't impede someone when you are on a break in the offensive third of the field.

Exactly, but she's no l(L)ady.

 

[BlueMAB]

upon looking further at the video, i must correct myself. i still think it's a good move by wambach, but a referee on the spot probably would have to call her for impeding andrade, and give colombia an indirect. it just seems clear to me that abby moved into andrade's path. an indirect is not dangerous at that point on the field, therefore, abby's move to impede andrade makes good sense. and is pretty common in the game.
i don't think that the video is clear enough for you to say that she didn't raise her elbow, but that's not important anyway.

6 things.

1) dumb post
2) dumb post
3) dumb post
4) dumb post
5) How does one get a black eye from impeding?
6) dumb post

 

[OneTrickPony]

I cleaned up my description as it miss stated left when I meant right.

It was a blatant and premeditated punch...surprising only because it was a punch...usually this stuff is much more subtle. I'm sure Lady Andrade will be getting some proper coaching from the men's team...

 

[Icebear]

Last remaining video.

Longer clip showing Andrade running up on Wambaugh.

 

[JoePgh]

Cardfan, I have to agree that those are two good articles on the Solo-Chastain thing. Those of us who follow the Red Sox might see a lot of personality similarities between Hope Solo and Josh Beckett.

Others (like myself) see similarities in the negative reaction of many Boneyarders to Chastain to their negative reaction to posters here who offer any slightly adverse opinion about any member of the UConn WCBB team. Cheerleading for the home team will always be more popular than criticism, even when it is well justified.

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[boontonbomber]

6 things.

1) dumb post
2) dumb post
3) dumb post
4) dumb post
5) How does one get a black eye from impeding?
6) dumb post

5) when you impede a hot head.

 

[BlueMAB]

5) when you impede a hot head.

Did you stretch before that reach? I wouldn't want you to pull a muscle.

 

[boontonbomber]

Impeding Andrade you are kidding, right? The US is on offense and Abby Wambaugh is moving into position. I am not even sure she saw Andrade since she never really turns her head that direction since she is focussed on the team's offensive play ahead of her. She and Andrade are on intersecting paths with Wambaugh in the advance position when Andrade runs up on her from behind and first grabs Abby's right shoulder/arm turning Abby's right arm back, no elbow thrown and then swings from Abby's right with Andrade's right with a roundhouse to Abby's right eye with a closed fist from a semi-blindside position.

no kidding here, ice. certainly an attacker might impede a defender, if that defender is making up a whole lot of ground, which lady seemed to be. you don't really think that abby would have to turn her head to know a player is coming up on her? i don't see them on intersecting paths. abby moved over. which was a good move, until lady lost it.

 

[Icebear]

no kidding here, ice. certainly an attacker might impede a defender, if that defender is making up a whole lot of ground, which lady seemed to be. you don't really think that abby would have to turn her head to know a player is coming up on her? i don't see them on intersecting paths. abby moved over. which was a good move, until lady lost it.

No, I don't, and what you are suggesting is blaming the victim.

 

[meyers7]

no kidding here, ice. certainly an attacker might impede a defender,

Not in this situation they wouldn't. One doesn't have to know a lot about soccer to know that.

 

[stamfordhusky]

upon looking further at the video, i must correct myself. i still think it's a good move by wambach, but a referee on the spot probably would have to call her for impeding andrade, and give colombia an indirect. it just seems clear to me that abby moved into andrade's path. an indirect is not dangerous at that point on the field, therefore, abby's move to impede andrade makes good sense. and is pretty common in the game.
i don't think that the video is clear enough for you to say that she didn't raise her elbow, but that's not important anyway.

No offense, but it's clear you know nothing about soccer at all. I reffed for years and have been around the game most of my life, and you will never see a situation that is less like impeding than this one.

 

[stamfordhusky]

Not in this situation they wouldn't. One doesn't have to know a lot about soccer to know that.

Correct. Very obvious that it is not impeding on Wambach. I have read hundreds of posts by expererienced referees on various websites about this play over the past five days. Not one referee brought up even the slightest possibility that Wambach was guilty of anything. If they had, they would have been laughed off the site.

 

[meyers7]

Correct. Very obvious that it is not impeding on Wambach. I have read hundreds of posts by expererienced referees on various websites about this play over the past five days. Not one referee brought up even the slightest possibility that Wambach was guilty of anything. If they had, they would have been laughed off the site.

Was BigSoccer ref board one of them? I check in there quite often.