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Man! That was a hallelujah of a game. I loved it! Oh my gosh!!!!!!!!! I loved it.............
 
alexrgct said:
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES !!!!!!!!!!
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When that defender for the Patriots deflected that pass in the waning seconds of the game and the receiver was on the ground and the ball hit off one of their feet and just settled on the receivers body where he eventually gained control before the ball hit the ground for a completion almost reminded me of previous losses in the Super Bowl where a ridiculous and unexpected completion in the last minute or two spelled doom for Patriot teams that had carried a lead late into the fourth quarter. All I could think of was, NOT AGAIN! To lose a game on a lucky catch AGAIN would have made me nuts but thankfully, Seattle did a dumb thing and decided to pass the ball while at the goal line and thankfully, the Patriots intercepted. Brady played a heckuva game as did Edelman and Gronk and that interception was a great play by a rookie with very little experience. Great win for our guys!
 
They got unlucky, then lucky. They deserved to win.
Only spoiled by the brawl.
 
Had to be the BEST Super Bowl. There have been plenty of duds but this one lived up to all the hype. Go Pats!
 
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Second and goal at the one. Marshawn Lynch in the backfield. Plenty of time for two plays, if necessary. And you THROW the ball? What possible mental processes could have led to that decision?
 
elzorrogris said:
Second and goal at the one. Marshawn Lynch in the backfield. Plenty of time for two plays, if necessary. And you THROW the ball? What possible mental processes could have led to that decision?
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I can only think of two possibilities:

1. Given how close Lynch got on first down, the Seahawks assumed the Pats would assume a run, so a pass play would have them scrambling and vulnerable.

2. They wanted the ball in Russel Wilson's hands because he's a winner and deserved to win the game.

Nevertheless, I repeat:

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
elzorrogris said:
Second and goal at the one. Marshawn Lynch in the backfield. Plenty of time for two plays, if necessary. And you THROW the ball? What possible mental processes could have led to that decision?
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That was a great play by Kearse (sure made my stomach drop) but I think this one is even better!

 
"OK, tell you what we are going to do; we are going to fake them out of their jocks. We are going to run a play so unexpected, so bizarre, so contrary to common sense or even uncommon seuse that no sane person would possibly call it. We are gonna throw a slant pass right over the bunched-up middle of the line. They will be so bunfuzzled they will probably just drop dead on the spot."
 
elzorrogris said:
"OK, tell you what we are going to do; we are going to fake them out of their jocks. We are going to run a play so unexpected, so bizarre, so contrary to common sense or even uncommon seuse that no sane person would possibly call it. We are gonna throw a slant pass right over the bunched-up middle of the line. They will be so bunfuzzled they will probably just drop dead on the spot."
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It was suggested by some dufus in the media today that Pete Carroll called a pass instead of a run so Russell Wilson could be Super Bowl MVP instead of Marshawn Lynch
 
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That call rivals the infamous "The Fumble" call when the Giants handed the ball off to Larry Csonka instead of just taking a knee. Obviollsy this was one of the most brain-dead calls in the history of sports.
 
elzorrogris said:
"OK, tell you what we are going to do; we are going to fake them out of their jocks. We are going to run a play so unexpected, so bizarre, so contrary to common sense or even uncommon seuse that no sane person would possibly call it. We are gonna throw a slant pass right over the bunched-up middle of the line. They will be so bunfuzzled they will probably just drop dead on the spot."
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You do have to wonder though if this play call was sooo bizarre, soooo unexpected, how where the Patriots prepared for it??
 
They were prepared for Lynch to run it up the middle. When the pass just happened to go up the middle..... (Butler did say that he caught a clue from Wilson's eye movements before the fatal snap.)
 
elzorrogris said:
They were prepared for Lynch to run it up the middle. When the pass just happened to go up the middle..... (Butler did say that he caught a clue from Wilson's eye movements before the fatal snap.)
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Actually they had 3 CB's in the game looking for a pass. It's one of their goal line packages. They matched up with the Seahawks personnel. They have a different defensive package if the other team is in a power run package.

Butler also said he had seen the play in film sessions, he said he knew they were going to run the pick play.
 
I stand corrected, although how they could have anticipated anything but a Lynch run is beyond me. :) Belichick is never going to be named Mr. Congeniality, but under that hoodie lurks a tremendous football mind.
 
elzorrogris said:
I stand corrected, although how they could have anticipated anything but a Lynch run is beyond me.
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I'm sure they cheated. ;)

Probably used mind control or something. You know how Belichick is. :D
 
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Based on what has Carroll said, (and I think he is as straight forward as anyone else in professional sports so I am taking him at his word) I think it was a reasonable if somewhat chancy call. The majority of the time the Seahawks will make that play - Butler made an outstanding move on the ball but I didn't think the receiver ran the route as well as he could have, giving Butler that chance.

If the pass had been completed, would it still have been the worst call in the history of the Super Bowl?
 
cabbie191 said:
Based on what has Carroll said, (and I think he is as straight forward as anyone else in professional sports so I am taking him at his word) I think it was a reasonable if somewhat chancy call. The majority of the time the Seahawks will make that play - Butler made an outstanding move on the ball but I didn't think the receiver ran the route as well as he could have, giving Butler that chance.

If the pass had been completed, would it still have been the worst call in the history of the Super Bowl?
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Yes, because then the Patriots would have lost :D
 
meyers7 said:
Actually they had 3 CB's in the game looking for a pass. It's one of their goal line packages. They matched up with the Seahawks personnel. They have a different defensive package if the other team is in a power run package.

Butler also said he had seen the play in film sessions, he said he knew they were going to run the pick play.
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He also said he got beat in practice that week on the same play - they were expecting it.
 
meyers7 said:
I'm sure they cheated. ;)

Probably used mind control or something. You know how Belichick is. :D
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He does sort of have the look of a medieval necromancer about him, with that hoodie and all. Wouldn't surprise me one damn bit.
 
Belichick on why the Patriots won: "We have Tom Brady and you don't !"

We also have Malcolm Butler. (mine)
 
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Hope said:
Belichick on why the Patriots won: "We have Tom Brady and you don't !"

We also have Malcolm Butler. (mine)
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I think it's cool that Brady is giving Malcolm Butler his MVP truck
 
cabbie191 said:
Based on what has Carroll said, (and I think he is as straight forward as anyone else in professional sports so I am taking him at his word) I think it was a reasonable if somewhat chancy call. The majority of the time the Seahawks will make that play - Butler made an outstanding move on the ball but I didn't think the receiver ran the route as well as he could have, giving Butler that chance.

If the pass had been completed, would it still have been the worst call in the history of the Super Bowl?
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It was a brain-dead call- his logic made no sense. Congrats to the Pats.

With that call- he deserves what he gets. Ironic - that Seahawks won because Packers went super-conservative and gave the game away - a game they were about to win. Now Seattle loses because the coach lost his sanity - takes away the game they were about to win.

Just can't say enough about the interception. Great play by "The Young Pat" D-Back.
 
meyers7 said:
I'm sure they cheated. ;)

Probably used mind control or something. You know how Belichick is. :D

I think the Patsies hacked the Seahawks comm system and called the play. It's the only logical explanation for such an insane call:)
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This is a very belated question about a key play in this amazing game but I'll ask it anyway. Prior to the game-deciding interception by Malcolm Butler, Jermaine Kearse made an incredible catch near the sideline. Here's how the play was described in the Boston Globe:

"The Seahawks rushed to the line of scrimmage, snapped the ball with 1:14 on the clock, and Wilson heaved up a jump ball toward Jermaine Kearse. Butler was in perfect position and outjumped Kearse for the football, but when the two fell to the ground, the ball hit Kearse’s left shin, then his right knee, then his right hand, and then he caught it while rolling over at the 6-yard line."

"Safety Duron Harmon jumped over the two players on the ground, not realizing the ball was still in play. Kearse alertly got back to his feet and tried to run, but Butler pushed him out of bounds at the 5."

When I watched a rerun of the play several times and in slow motion, I can only assume that Harmon must have assumed it was an incomplete pass when he jumped over Kearse who was on the ground with the ball bouncing around. On such a critical play, why did Harmon not dive on top of Kearse to ensure that there was no completion? If he had done just that, would the ref have flagged him for a late hit with accompanying penalty? Just asking.
 
HuskyJohn said:
When I watched a rerun of the play several times and in slow motion, I can only assume that (1) Harmon must have assumed it was an incomplete pass when he jumped over Kearse who was on the ground with the ball bouncing around. On such a critical play, (2) why did Harmon not dive on top of Kearse to ensure that there was no completion? If he had done just that, would the ref have flagged him for a late hit with accompanying penalty? Just asking.
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(1) That is my assumption
(2) Great question! My answer is a) I guess he had no reason to jump on him if he thought it was incomplete, but b) a late hit might have ensured it WAS incomplete, and would have only been a 15 yard penalty from the line of scrimmage. So, in all likelihood, we wouldn't have all this controversy about the play call 2 plays later.
 
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