OSU President Gee's comments about UL...

[Pudge]

Clearly, UConn belongs on the top tier of College athletics. We've earned that place. I'm not going to be one to say Louisville doesn't (but academics? I guess there are a few Louisville's in the 65).

I am more pissed that some great group of gods drew a line excluding deserved Programs/Universities. And, that subset includes the Wake's & Baylor's ... But excludes an entire region of the country (cause I simply don't see BC as representative). For us to get $2m and the b1G $40m+ seems crazy. I am not going to be one to piss on ECU or Memphis; particularly for academics. This Sportsworld needs a way to be inclusive. If UCF or USF emerges as a dominant Florida force ... There should be entree. Same with San Diego State. The economic constraints have tightened & make every thing more challenging. That sucks.

 

[cardsfan123]

tv markets and athletics huh?
on which of those factors does uofl rank ahead of uconn?

i agree that being a southern school helped.

the biggest factor was perception. the same way louisville is viewed as a glorified commuter school, it's also viewed to have more football tradition than uconn.
Perception is reality. that and being a southern school were the factors.

Oh I dunno winning two BCS bowls in the last 6 years and a national title in basketball helps, not to mention averaging 50k for football with a God awful home schedule and 22k in a brand spankin new basketball arena that puts Gampel to shame. Want to compare AD budget/revenue? How about facilities? Big East championships since 2005? I'll let you choose.

As for football tradition, it's not really comparable. You guys were Division II 14 years ago. You've never had a double digit winning season since moving up. Your bowl record is 3-2. No BCS bowl wins. And a coach that cut and run for Maryland of all places. Louisville doesn't have a whole lot of tradition in football, but we've got a whole hell of a lot more than UConn.

You guys like to claim you have a share of the NYC market because it's "only" two hours away but don't kid yourselves. There are about 50 schools located within the same distance, do they get to claim NYC too? Is it divided up equally? How many people in NYC do you think will watch UConn battle Tulsa on a Tuesday night come 2014? Being located near a large TV market and delivering said TV market are two different things. If UConn delivered NYC you'd be in the Big 10 instead of Rutgers. Needless to say, you weren't.

So congrats on being a better school. I'm sure your future conference members will be amazed.

 

[upstater]

And you live where exactly?

And you're right - given that I'm not a UConn supporter or alum - I've never felt the need to hang on Jim Calhoun quotes or, be bothered by them. It does seem that at one point or another in his career he had unpleasant things to say on a lot of topics which, tends to water down specific "barbs".

How would it have played out then, Nostradamus? FSU and Clemson (and Georgia Tech to a lesser degree) were all clearly opposed to adding UConn. That much is known. They were so opposed to it, in fact, they threatened to cut and run if UConn was added, which was the only leverage they had over the Tobacco Road schools.

You guys want to pump academics as if they actually mean something in the grand scheme of realignment, but honestly how many schools have been added to power 5 conferences in the last 2 years solely because of their USNWR ranking? Today it's about TV market and athletics. WVU, Utah, TCU, Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, Nebraska, Colorado, Rutgers, Missouri, Texas A&M, and Maryland are all either located in areas with large populations (or they're the flagship program in their state) or they have great athletics, or both. The southern ACC schools didn't want another Boston College added to the league just so the ACC could brag about how awesome it is to have another great northeastern school that sucks in football, can you really disagree with them?

UConn's TV market destroys Louisville. UConn is better than Louisville at basketball. UConn is also 4-4 in the BE against Ville in football. The difference between the schools is you fired Kragthorpe while out Kragthorpe hasn't been fired yet. Hopefully, UConn will do it in 3 instead of the 4 it took Louisville. Trust me, no advertiser is salivating at the mouth to beam sports into toothless country. Conn., at least, has a very rich market.

 

[upstater]

Oh I dunno winning two BCS bowls in the last 6 years and a national title in basketball helps, not to mention averaging 50k for football with a God awful home schedule and 22k in a brand spankin new basketball arena that puts Gampel to shame. Want to compare AD budget/revenue? How about facilities? Big East championships since 2005? I'll let you choose.

As for football tradition, it's not really comparable. You guys were Division II 14 years ago. You've never had a double digit winning season since moving up. Your bowl record is 3-2. No BCS bowl wins. And a coach that cut and run for Maryland of all places. Louisville doesn't have a whole lot of tradition in football, but we've got a whole hell of a lot more than UConn.

You guys like to claim you have a share of the NYC market because it's "only" two hours away but don't kid yourselves. There are about 50 schools located within the same distance, do they get to claim NYC too? Is it divided up equally? How many people in NYC do you think will watch UConn battle Tulsa on a Tuesday night come 2014? Being located near a large TV market and delivering said TV market are two different things. If UConn delivered NYC you'd be in the Big 10 instead of Rutgers. Needless to say, you weren't.

So congrats on being a better school. I'm sure your future conference members will be amazed.

Let's compare:

UConn has the best football facilities not only in the BE, but some of the top in the entire country.
They are building the best basketball facilities right now.
UConn has 3 national basketball titles in the last 2 decades, Ville has one.
Your AD budget and revenue is awash in bogus statistics, as I proved in the other Ville thread when another know-nothing Ville fan came up and said Ville has lead the BE since inception. I showed that as of even 3 years ago, this wasn't true.
And no, UConn wasn't div. II. I doubt you even know the football divisions.
Your coaches have cut and run in the past, and you know it.
The big TV market is Connecticut. Not NYC. Get a clue.

 

[cardsfan123]

UConn's TV market destroys Louisville. UConn is better than Louisville at basketball. UConn is also 4-4 in the BE against Ville in football. The difference between the schools is you fired Kragthorpe while out Kragthorpe hasn't been fired yet. Hopefully, UConn will do it in 3 instead of the 4 it took Louisville. Trust me, no advertiser is salivating at the mouth to beam sports into toothless country. Conn., at least, has a very rich market.

UConn better than Louisville in basketball? Think again. The coach that literally made your program is gone forever. Ollie won't accomplish what Calhoun did, don't fool yourself.

The difference between our programs IS Kragthorpe. Had Petrino stayed or if Strong had been hired in 2007 you guys wouldn't even be in the same galaxy as us football wise. He completely nuked our team and Strong finally turned it around. The ACC saw how much potential we have compared to you guys and realized it would be stupid for them to take UConn.

If UConn was HALF the program your guys think it is you wouldn't be in the AAC for the foreseeable future. We can argue everything, but you can't argue with that.

 

[cardsfan123]

Let's compare:

UConn has the best football facilities not only in the BE, but some of the top in the entire country.
They are building the best basketball facilities right now.
UConn has 3 national basketball titles in the last 2 decades, Ville has one.
Your AD budget and revenue is awash in bogus statistics, as I proved in the other Ville thread when another know-nothing Ville fan came up and said Ville has lead the BE since inception. I showed that as of even 3 years ago, this wasn't true.
And no, UConn wasn't div. II. I doubt you even know the football divisions.
Your coaches have cut and run in the past, and you know it.
The big TV market is Connecticut. Not NYC. Get a clue.

UConn has the best football facilities in the country? That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. 55k seats with chair backs >>>> 40k bleachers
We HAVE the best basketball facilities right now.
What did you guys accomplish before 1999?
Keep telling yourself that.
Division 1-AA. Big difference.
Strong turned down Tennessee. Edsall took the first train to Maryland. See the difference?
Congrats. It's such an impressive TV market that it was passed over for a city in Kentucky. What does that say about you guys?

 

[Pudge]

Perhaps you Cardfan lacks knowledge.

As much as many can say they are near (within 2 hours), we all know that Fairfield Cty Connecticut is a crucial part of Metro NYC. Powerful people and great wealth which makes the City (and the country) go are part of us. That's not an insignificant fact. It's one we bring ... and one that is hard to truly capture. We're not in Central NY.

 

[upstater]

UConn has the best football facilities in the country? That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. 55k seats with chair backs >>>> 40k bleachers
We HAVE the best basketball facilities right now.
What did you guys accomplish before 1999?
Keep telling yourself that.
Division 1-AA. Big difference.
Strong turned down Tennessee. Edsall took the first train to Maryland. See the difference?
Congrats. It's such an impressive TV market that it was passed over for a city in Kentucky. What does that say about you guys?

Wow, reading comprehension is pretty bad, eh? I wrote best in the BE and some of the best in the country. I'm talking about training facilities. I thought that's what you were referring to.

What did we accomplish before the prehistoric era? Just some F8s and stuff.

I saw Johnny-boy smith left for Michigan St--which has even less talent than Maryland.

Our market wasn't passed over. Our football was. Your market is tiny and insignificant and the ACC continues to make awful decisions in adding teams. From BC to Louisville--nothing but bad decisions. It took a school in the tundra of CNY over hotly populated mega markets in the mid-atlantic. Stupidity. The B1g at least recognizes value.

 

[upstater]

UConn better than Louisville in basketball? Think again. The coach that literally made your program is gone forever. Ollie won't accomplish what Calhoun did, don't fool yourself.

The difference between our programs IS Kragthorpe. Had Petrino stayed or if Strong had been hired in 2007 you guys wouldn't even be in the same galaxy as us football wise. He completely nuked our team and Strong finally turned it around. The ACC saw how much potential we have compared to you guys and realized it would be stupid for them to take UConn.

If UConn was HALF the program your guys think it is you wouldn't be in the AAC for the foreseeable future. We can argue everything, but you can't argue with that.

Of course UConn is better in basketball. No doubt about that. and Pitino is not long for spaghetti restaurant tables or Ville bball. We replaced a legend with a guy who is on his way to becoming a legend--already grabbed a top 5 recruit in his first year.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Of course UConn is better in basketball. No doubt about that. and Pitino is not long for spaghetti restaurant tables or Ville bball. We replaced a legend with a guy who is on his way to becoming a legend--already grabbed a top 5 recruit in his first year.

Go easy on the looville boy
Its hard for him to conceive that state residents outside of Storrs can actually be UConn fans.
Ky my second home for 30 years is dominated by UK.
I knew 1 Cardinal fan. Actually a pretty good guy. Every man women and child bleed blue.
This is in Christain County pretty far from either school.


LOOVILLE fans outside of Louisville are as scarce as last names in Eastern Ky

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[cardsfan123]

Of course UConn is better in basketball. No doubt about that. and Pitino is not long for spaghetti restaurant tables or Ville bball. We replaced a legend with a guy who is on his way to becoming a legend--already grabbed a top 5 recruit in his first year.

Getting a top 5 recruit =/= becoming a legend. Bit of a stretch there.

UConn basketball will slowly fade to irrelevancy after a decade in the AAC. Your attendance was already underwhelming when a big name didn't come to town. Hell your arena only looked about 70% full on TV when #1 Louisville smeared the court with the Huskies last January. How many of your fans do you think will actually pay to watch teams like Tulsa and UCF and Tulane and ECU instead? I guess we'll find out soon enough.

 

[upstater]

Getting a top 5 recruit =/= becoming a legend. Bit of a stretch there.

UConn basketball will slowly fade to irrelevancy after a decade in the AAC. Your attendance was already underwhelming when a big name didn't come to town. Hell your arena only looked about 70% full on TV when #1 Louisville smeared the court with the Huskies last January. How many of your fans do you think will actually pay to watch teams like Tulsa and UCF and Tulane and ECU instead? I guess we'll find out soon enough.

More reading comprehension problems for you. "...on his way..."

Ollie is a star. As for UConn fading into irrelevancy, it's interesting that you spend time over here with the irrelevant. Your life must suck.

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

Of course UConn is better in basketball. No doubt about that. and Pitino is not long for spaghetti restaurant tables or Ville bball. We replaced a legend with a guy who is on his way to becoming a legend--already grabbed a top 5 recruit in his first year.

I like Ollie but, wow "on his way to becoming a legend"? That seems pretty hyperbolic after one year and one top 5 recruit - wouldn't you say? And, "of course UConn is better in basketball" - really? Knowing how fond you are of your own subjective opinion - can you let me in on what led you to that "obvious" conclusion? As I've said before, I have always enjoyed UConn basketball and actually have pulled for them to win a lot (when they aren't playing UofL) including all 3 NCAA titles. That said, a quick comparison of the two programs since UofL joined the BE goes like this.

NCAA appearances - UofL - 7 UConn - 6
NCAA Titles - UofL - 1 UConn - 1
BE Regular Season Titles - UofL - 3 UConn - 1
BE Tournament Titles - UofL - 3 UConn - 1
Overall Records - UofL - 213 - 76 UConn - 192 - 81
Head to Head record - UofL - 8 UConn - 5
Average Attendance - UofL - 21,703 UConn - 12,640
Revenue - well, I'm not going to elevate your blood pressure by opening that can of worms again...
Final Fours and Elite Eights are even at 1 & 2 respectively.

So, your rationale for saying UConn is better, was what again?

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

Go easy on the looville boy
Its hard for him to conceive that state residents outside of Storrs can actually be UConn fans.
Ky my second home for 30 years is dominated by UK.
I knew 1 Cardinal fan. Actually a pretty good guy. Every man women and child bleed blue.
This is in Christain County pretty far from either school.


LOOVILLE fans outside of Louisville are as scarce as last names in Eastern Ky

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What exactly is your point here? That uk (arguably the most storied and successful college basketball program in history) has a majority of the support in Kentucky? Wow, you can put that right up there with "bear sh1ts in the woods". It makes sense that UConn has support throughout the state - who else are Conn. residents going to support for basketball and football - the University of Harford?

 

[upstater]

I like Ollie but, wow "on his way to becoming a legend"? That seems pretty hyperbolic after one year and one top 5 recruit - wouldn't you say? And, "of course UConn is better in basketball" - really? Knowing how fond you are of your own subjective opinion - can you let me in on what led you to that "obvious" conclusion? As I've said before, I have always enjoyed UConn basketball and actually have pulled for them to win a lot (when they aren't playing UofL) including all 3 NCAA titles. That said, a quick comparison of the two programs since UofL joined the BE goes like this.

NCAA appearances - UofL - 7 UConn - 6
NCAA Titles - UofL - 1 UConn - 1
BE Regular Season Titles - UofL - 3 UConn - 1
BE Tournament Titles - UofL - 3 UConn - 1
Overall Records - UofL - 213 - 76 UConn - 192 - 81
Head to Head record - UofL - 8 UConn - 5
Average Attendance - UofL - 21,703 UConn - 12,640
Revenue - well, I'm not going to elevate your blood pressure by opening that can of worms again...
Final Fours and Elite Eights are even at 1 & 2 respectively.

So, your rationale for saying UConn is better, was what again?

Starting a comparison the year after UConn won a national title is more or less what anyone can expect from you.

I really don't give a damn that Ville had a cup of tea in the BE. UConn wins championships. That sums it up.

You'll find out about Ollie soon enough. There is no one like him out there.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Love these fans of a second rated commuter school coming here telling us how great they. First of all, they are from Kentucky and they are the second rated commuter school in Kentucky. That alone should be the reason to stay quiet, There is literally nothing to do over there while CT got multiple entertainment choices. It is laughable those jokers are trying to comparing Louisville TV market vs. UCONN's.

UL basketball greater than UCONN. That's laughable especially since 1999. They paid pro money for a scumbag coach and they ripped the city off for the YUM center. I would not be surprised city of Louisville is being run by bunch of people who barely have high school degrees.

Here is a diagram should tell you why some of those fans are so ignorant.

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

Starting a comparison the year after UConn won a national title is more or less what anyone can expect from you.

I really don't give a damn that Ville had a cup of tea in the BE. UConn wins championships. That sums it up.

You'll find out about Ollie soon enough. There is no one like him out there.

So funny that you're so fond of calling people out for a lack of "reading comprehension" when you seem afflicted by that shortcoming. I thought that I'd give you a time frame where UofL and UConn competed in the same confererence. If you think that's cherry picking, then I'll go back further.

Total NCAA appearances - UofL - 39 UConn - 30
Total Final Fours - UofL - 10 UConn - 4
Total National Titles - UofL - 3 UConn -3

Again, I said that I like Kevin Ollie. Guess this is just another example of your thin skin flaking off in seconds. Clearly you have a problem...

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

Love these fans of a second rated commuter school coming here telling us how great they. First of all, they are from Kentucky and they are the second rated commuter school in Kentucky. That alone should be the reason to stay quiet, There is literally nothing to do over there while CT got multiple entertainment choices. It is laughable those jokers are trying to comparing Louisville TV market vs. UCONN's.

UL basketball greater than UCONN. That's laughable especially since 1999. They paid pro money for a scumbag coach and they ripped the city off for the YUM center. I would not be surprised city of Louisville is being run by bunch of people who barely have high school degrees.

Here is a diagram should tell you why some of those fans are so ignorant.

Ummm, are you referring to that "second rated commuter school" that was just selected as more deserving to join the ACC than "super cool" UConn? Wow, if we suck so bad, how in the world did we get "your" spot there? That's just weird...

"Laughable since 1999". It's been a while since I've come across someone so unintentionally ironic as you. And you indirectly accuse me of selective statistics? And not that I'm a huge fan of Pitino's but, personal shortcomings aside, NCAA investigators have never even visited Louisville during his tenure - unlike the branch office they set up in Storrs.

I will say that I love your census data though. Not sure it has much relevance, as I made more than the CT. number in my junior year of college. BTW, it's hard to be surprised by much, when you substitute your inane opinion for facts...

 

[Fishy]

I've been making fun of UL for being a lousy school just on their general reputation.

Out of curiosity, I just took a gander at that US News ranking and, holy f---, they really are that bad.

They're on the absolute bottom rung of the ladder between Mississippi State and West Virginia.

That is horrific.

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

I've been making fun of UL for being a lousy school just on their general reputation.

Out of curiosity, I just took a gander at that US News ranking and, holy f---, they really are that bad.

They're on the absolute bottom rung of the ladder between Mississippi State and West Virginia.

That is horrific.

You mean those other two schools that are also part of the power conference structure? Again, what does UConn (or its fans) gain by tearing other schools down? Based upon your logic, would it be acceptable to say that UConn was the tallest midget in the NCAA?

 

[Fishy]

Unfortunately, my boy, a Louisville graduate cannot head out into the world and get a job by showing an employer a copy of the ACC roster.

Sports are a diversion and while I am sure Louisville is rightfully thrilled about being athletically secure, it appears they are failing badly where it counts.

Just a side note for your edification - you've misused the word logic. I merely reported the US News' ranking - if you're unhappy with the result, your argument is with them, not me.

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

Unfortunately, my boy, a Louisville graduate cannot head out into the world and get a job by showing an employer a copy of the ACC roster.

Sports are a diversion and while I am sure Louisville is rightfully thrilled about being athletically secure, it appears they are failing badly where it counts.

Just a side note for your edification - you've misused the word logic. I merely reported the US News' ranking - if you're unhappy with the result, your argument is with them, not me.

Whereas, I certainly appreciate your concern for the Louisville grad old boy, I don't hear or sense any clamoring nationally for those sheepskin recipients from Connecticut's state school either.

I certainly appreciate the edification, so let me rephrase. Based upon your regurgitation of the us news article, do you feel it proper to intimate that UConn Is, at this moment in time, the world's tallest midget?

 

[Hoophound]

Whereas, I certainly appreciate your concern for the Louisville grad old boy, I don't hear or sense any clamoring nationally for those sheepskin recipients from Connecticut's state school either.

I certainly appreciate the edification, so let me rephrase. Based upon your regurgitation of the us news article, do you feel it proper to intimate that UConn Is, at this moment in time, the world's tallest midget?

Yes.

 

[The Funster]

Whereas, I certainly appreciate your concern for the Louisville grad old boy, I don't hear or sense any clamoring nationally for those sheepskin recipients from Connecticut's state school either.

I certainly appreciate the edification, so let me rephrase. Based upon your regurgitation of the us news article, do you feel it proper to intimate that UConn Is, at this moment in time, the world's tallest midget?

Hey, Lville hit the "at the moment lottery" when they were selected for the ACC. Good for you. Thank your lucky stars that the ACC didn't cave on it's academic integrity earlier, else they would have taken a much stronger FB program in West Virginia.

I happen to believe that the Lville selection DID help to save the ACC and all the credit goes to Jurich for that. However, like UConns long term athletic future is in question, so too is Lville's long term ability to maintain the athletic profile that Jurich singlehandedly created. Given the overall profiles of our respective schools, I'll take UConn's future over Louisville's future any day.

I appreciate you wanting to come on to a UConn board to defend the school you root for, I really do. However, when I look at another recent lottery winner, Rutgers, I at least see a fanbase that is intelligent enough to accept why they were selected and hold their tongue when their selection is discussed. That being said, you must understand that their moribund athletic program is held in higher esteem than the academic profile of Lville.

 

[Adios]

You're welcome. I am not aware of UConn having any enemies in the B1G. I think it really is more an issue of lack of advocates. There is certainly an arrogance in his statements and it reflects that on the B1G leadership as a whole. However, his honesty also points the way to the B1G for UConn: AAU membership, research, academics, population, athletic success, etc. If UConn wants in the B1G, then it will need to be its own advocate through making itself successful in the areas that matter to the B1G and doing what it can to make the B1G take notice and show how the addition of UConn is beneficial to the B1G.

I think we'll very likely become a no-brainer addition in a matter of time. Too much going on in UConn's favor.

But have to wonder which conference will outlast the other, the ACC or the Big 12.

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

Hey, Lville hit the "at the moment lottery" when they were selected for the ACC. Good for you. Thank your lucky stars that the ACC didn't cave on it's academic integrity earlier, else they would have taken a much stronger FB program in West Virginia.

I happen to believe that the Lville selection DID help to save the ACC and all the credit goes to Jurich for that. However, like UConns long term athletic future is in question, so too is Lville's long term ability to maintain the athletic profile that Jurich singlehandedly created. Given the overall profiles of our respective schools, I'll take UConn's future over Louisville's future any day.

I appreciate you wanting to come on to a UConn board to defend the school you root for, I really do. However, when I look at another recent lottery winner, Rutgers, I at least see a fanbase that is intelligent enough to accept why they were selected and hold their tongue when their selection is discussed. That being said, you must understand that their moribund athletic program is held in higher esteem than the academic profile of Lville.

I think you've made some good points here, and I agree with you on the broad strokes. I'm not here to brag about UofL's academic profile with respect to UConn or any other school. Clearly, they have work to do but, I believe that they are taking steps to do so and, have made strides in that area of late.

Clearly the recent changing conference landscape has created opportunities for UofL, and they've been fortunate. That said, I believe that to a great extent you make your own luck. Louisville has worked hard as a school and athletic department to correct deficiencies and upgrade its profile nationally. As a result, they have been able to position the school as an attractive option to those conferences looking to add members - be it the BE in 2005, or the ACC in 2014.

As I've said numerous times here, UConn is a fine institution and I have always enjoyed watching its hoops programs - in fact, I'd say my favorite BE hoops team to watch not named Louisville. And I sincerely hope (and believe) that it's simply a matter of time before UConn is in the ACC. But, I'm not sure why it is you feel that Louisville supporters should hold their tongues or somehow feel sheepish about how or why the ACC selected UofL.

Would that have been your assessment to Husky fans, if it had been UConn who was selected?

 

[TRest]

I think you've made some good points here, and I agree with you on the broad strokes. I'm not here to brag about UofL's academic profile with respect to UConn or any other school. Clearly, they have work to do but, I believe that they are taking steps to do so and, have made strides in that area of late.

Clearly the recent changing conference landscape has created opportunities for UofL, and they've been fortunate. That said, I believe that to a great extent you make your own luck. Louisville has worked hard as a school and athletic department to correct deficiencies and upgrade its profile nationally. As a result, they have been able to position the school as an attractive option to those conferences looking to add members - be it the BE in 2005, or the ACC in 2014.

As I've said numerous times here, UConn is a fine institution and I have always enjoyed watching its hoops programs - in fact, I'd say my favorite BE hoops team to watch not named Louisville. And I sincerely hope (and believe) that it's simply a matter of time before UConn is in the ACC. But, I'm not sure why it is you feel that Louisville supporters should hold their tongues or somehow feel sheepish about how or why the ACC selected UofL.

Would that have been your assessment to Husky fans, if it had been UConn who was selected?

This board has been living through a decade of ACC fans mooing about the conference and its academic integrity, second in stature to the Big 10, etc. The ACC even marketed the notion that a majority of its schools were ranked in the USNWR top 40. And then when it was nut-cutting time, it threw academic integrity, its most cherished ideal (other than Tobacco Road being the epicenter of hoops) out the window and grabbed a school that was seen as academically deficient when joining the BE. Enjoy the ACC fans on other message boards who will never stop ridiculing your academics, because it is impossible to improve them enough to pass the smell test.

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

This board has been living through a decade of ACC fans mooing about the conference and its academic integrity, second in stature to the Big 10, etc. The ACC even marketed the notion that a majority of its schools were ranked in the USNWR top 40. And then when it was nut-cutting time, it threw academic integrity, its most cherished ideal (other than Tobacco Road being the epicenter of hoops) out the window and grabbed a school that was seen as academically deficient when joining the BE. Enjoy the ACC fans on other message boards who will never stop ridiculing your academics, because it is impossible to improve them enough to pass the smell test.

Conversations about who has the best academics tend to occur, when they can't win consistently against you on the athletic field. The whole conversation is laughable - as if anything other than athletics (and singularly - football) and TV markets had anything to do with all of the conference shake ups.

 

[Dann]

Lville since they joined the big east has been on a rip. the ad and the admin there get it. They took that upgrade and BCS connection and made it count. They did everything they possibly could. From football to soccer to baseball to bball. They win just like uconn wins. If you look at the big east since Lville joined I imagine both Lville and uconn are at or around the top in championships and national ships also. Lville was and is a fun school to be around because of that. Uconn loves to have good other sports and Lville brought it in that regard. The same can be said to a way lesser degree at Marquette. They came to the big east and instead of stinkin they went for it and really became a solid program. They put out pros and won games. Great coach hires etc....other big east teams sucked but those 2 came in a gave a poop.

Lville is brutal academics wise. Wvu bad without the top award ppl to boot. Wvu has a state identity they need to serve to a certain % of its population wise, I'm not sure Lville does or just has no choice based where it sits in the academics world not being a flagship.

I find it funny when schools rip uconn for the acc "passing us over". It's pretty simple to read and listen to understand what's going on with bc and the acc not wanting to take uconn until they have to. It is what it is. We all know that ESPN preferred Cuse and uconn and fsu's study showed wvu-uconn-Lville in that order for worth to the acc. It just came a time when fball had sucked in the acc for a decade and so the first flash in the pan they could see they had to grab. Then ESPN ran with it and pumped you guys because that's what ESPN does.

Every school that has moved to the acc from the big east over the years has gone down the drain. Bc sucked, Miami sucked and guess what Pitt and Cuse are going to continue to do? Vt has been ok. They lose the big game every year. The acc is about duke and UNC bball. You won't top those 2. Then the acc is about fake perception where they prop Clem and FSU on a sec level. I. FSU has been the school that never lives up to hype for a while now and Clemson got gang screwed by wvu not to long ago. The move was nothing more than the acc needing immediate perception to save itself in the cr world. It won't last as usual.

Uconn and Lville bball are the 7th and 8th best programs of all time. It's close. We are younger in a smaller time line but have done more or less depending on which stat you throw out there. It's not worth arguing over. We are literally the 2 best schools outside the 6 blue bloods. Instead we as a group with zona, MSU and fl should all be claiming we're the new bloods in a 2nd tier of schools or something. Fight a good fight, not a stupid one.

Based on how the acc sees things. There expansion list now has Cincy on top followed by temple, Memphis, USF and UCF. Uconn better just aim big.

 

[Dann]

Conversations about who has the best academics tend to occur, when they can't win consistently against you on the athletic field. The whole conversation is laughable - as if anything other than athletics (and singularly - football) and TV markets had anything to do with all of the conference shake ups.

Ok jerk off, let's talk about whose bball players make more money? How many nba players do u have? You need to just stfu as you are bring back to life why boards last fall were all pissed about Lville. When wvu left for the b12 your fan base cried for days on several boards making a joke of yourselves. Now you get a invite and instead of learning your lesson and being happy you guys troll around and act like you were picked because you were next best when your were picked for perception purposes to tr to just keep a league alive. It's well documented what the decision was made of. If you were actually good, the b10 or b12 would have picked you. They didn't. The dreg conf we all rip on for years picked you being desperate. Wvu went to the b12 and Rutgers went to the b10? But didn't you have more championships then them? Oh boy here's a tissue.