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Drumguy said:
Just for the record as a public institution, endowment is much less important since we have funded the remake of UConn from taxpayers dollars!
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Pretty soon, none of this will matter. Primary, secondary and higher education is being gutted. America is being hollowed out. Wait until the foreigners get wind of the systematic dismantling of education in America. Then you're going to see the real bottom fall out--since these foreign students are subsidized by their gov'ts. It's coming. Almost assuredly, your children will not have a chance at anywhere near the education you received. UConn will be lucky not to look like Louisville 10 years ago while Louisville will look like the Wilfrid Beauty Academy.
 
Anybody tied to big-time college athletics who puts academics out there as a critical issue is full of *, it's simply a matter of to what degree. If you put 60,000 fans in your stadium and occaisionally have a kid who might be a Hiesman candidate that translates into potential TV ratings and your a desired commodity. Does OSU's President want to talk about Nebraska as an academic shining light? When Father Leahy said that BC's move to the ACC was primarily driven by academics I just about duck*ing puked.

CR has screamed from the highest hilltop the college athletics is driven by one factor and one factor only...........
 
Gee's comments overall were disgraceful, bigoted and generally inappropriate for a high school kid, never mind a President of a major university. Having said that, he was right on in his characterization of Louisville. As they say in Kentucky, if you can't go to college go to Louisville. If you haven't got the knowledge go to Louisville.
If you fail your SAT's don't take it hard. If you flunk the ACT become a Card. If you can't go to college 'cause you really lack the knowledge, go to Louisville.
 
The day wvu went to the b12 Lville fans became famous for there Internet antics all over several fan boards. The wvu cr board was a mess already but the Lville fans creeping and crawling all over it is what made it untra famous. It's more than funny they are trying to rag on some upset uconn fans on a uconn board. It's our board, were mad. Your school is not anywhere close to caliber in the classroom and your athletics are on the rise but had a real bump the past year which is flash pan material. It's not like our basketball is d2 compared to yours and its not like your great football year didn't have a loss at home to uconn. Get real. You got a invite and we didn't but don't act like your Michigan and were Detroit cc.
 
noeynox said:
Look around man, bow ties are in! This dude was simply ahead of the curve!
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Perhaps this is a Cesspool comment but duck it. How'd it work out for Tucker Carlson?
 
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Are some of you daisies really hung up on the man's bowtie?
 
TRest said:
Bowties, like seersucker suits, can only be worn by lawyers south of the Mason-Dixon line. There is a small bowtie exception for New England academics/pinheads.
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... and bunnies.

bow tie.jpg
 
I miss the Conference Realignment Board and the trolls that made it fun. My aliases would make so many crazy posts...
 
TRest said:
Bowties, like seersucker suits, can only be worn by lawyers south of the Mason-Dixon line. There is a small bowtie exception for New England academics/pinheads.
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i was at a graduation at one of the NESCAC schools this weekend and was introduced to a professor who was wearing a bowtie. the person who introduced me noticed it and told the story that when this guy first arrived he showed up with a bow tie. One of the old cranks who had been on the faculty since the place was founded in the early 1800s came up to him and said, "Welcome to campus, but lose the bowtie. that is my trademark." Apparetnly he has been waiting for the older prof to go on sabbatical so he can return to wearing bow ties...Not sure what happens in September!
 
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Love him or hate him ... Agree with him or Disagree with him ... Gordon Gee is always good for interesting quotes and provides at least some insight into the thinking of the leadership in the B1G.

http://www.landgrantholyland.com/20...t-ii-dissing-cincinnati-bret-bielema-and-more

http://college-football.si.com/2013/05/31/ohio-state-gordon-gee-controversial-comments/

Gordon Gee audio

• 6:05: “The blocking strategy is that we simply have now put the ACC in an almost no-win position. So who do they immediately go to? Louisville. They may think about Cincinnati. They may think about Connecticut. But they’ve lost their foothold in that middle part of the area, in that middle part of the Atlantic coast.”

• 9:14: "I think the Big Ten needs to be predatory and positive rather than waiting for other people to take away from them. Very candidly, I think we made a mistake. Because thought about adding Missouri and Kansas at the time. There was not a great deal of enthusiasm about that. I think we should have done that at the time. So we would have had Nebraska, Missouri, Kansas and then moved into that other area. I think, by the way, that that can still happen."

• 11:03: "You know Penn State just abhors Pitt. It would be the same way. Even though we love Cincinnati as a city, we want it to be an Ohio State city. They’d have to take Gene out and shoot him to let Cincinnati into the Big Ten. There are some things that we just would not to. And that’s the way that Penn State also feels about Pitt."
 
He was overly colorful in some of his phrasing and the Catholic stuff will be blown up, but he really wasn't wrong.

Notre Dame is not a good partner.
Penn State hates Pitt and Ohio State would never accept Cincy.
The Big Ten did vet Mizzou and Kansas.
The Big Ten did want to drive a wedge into the mid-Atlantic and perhaps head south.
The mid-Atlantic does benefit the Big Ten Network.
UL and UK are not Big Ten level schools academically.
And maybe, just maybe, the SEC has some academic issues.
 
Fishy said:
It says that the football standings in mid-November meant a hell of a lot more than academics did.

It is what it is.

So...you're a Louisville townie? Morehead State or community college?
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Wrong and wrong.
 
freescooter said:
i was at a graduation at one of the NESCAC schools this weekend and was introduced to a professor who was wearing a bowtie. the person who introduced me noticed it and told the story that when this guy first arrived he showed up with a bow tie. One of the old cranks who had been on the faculty since the place was founded in the early 1800s came up to him and said, "Welcome to campus, but lose the bowtie. that is my trademark." Apparetnly he has been waiting for the older prof to go on sabbatical so he can return to wearing bow ties...Not sure what happens in September!
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I've never met a bowtie wearer that wasn't self-conscious about it. I thought I read somewhere that Gee expensed over $60k to his employer(s) in making his bowtie collection. That aint right.
 
B1GALUM said:
Love him or hate him ... Agree with him or Disagree with him ... Gordon Gee is always good for interesting quotes and provides at least some insight into the thinking of the leadership in the B1G...
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Thanks, very interesting quotes. I guess at least we can say that we don't have any strong enemies in the B1G (that I'm aware of)... unlike Cinci. Doesn't mean they love us, but... better than being blackballed.
 
upstater said:
Pretty soon, none of this will matter. Primary, secondary and higher education is being gutted. America is being hollowed out. Wait until the foreigners get wind of the systematic dismantling of education in America. Then you're going to see the real bottom fall out--since these foreign students are subsidized by their gov'ts. It's coming. Almost assuredly, your children will not have a chance at anywhere near the education you received. UConn will be lucky not to look like Louisville 10 years ago while Louisville will look like the Wilfrid Beauty Academy.
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Wow - foreign students taking over our beauty academies? You really are taking this whole not getting into the ACC hard. My advice is don't wait, grab the creamed corn and the bottled water and ride it out in the bunker in your father in law's back yard. The rest of us non- will let you know when it's ok to come out...
 
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BobbyPs Ghost said:
Wow - foreign students taking over our beauty academies? You really are taking this whole not getting into the ACC hard. My advice is don't wait, grab the creamed corn and the bottled water and ride it out in the bunker in your father in law's back yard. The rest of us non- will let you know when it's ok to come out...
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Not surprisingly, your reading comprehension level is not very high. Since I wrote foreigners (who subsidize it all) will stop coming.
 
upstater said:
Not surprisingly, your reading comprehension level is not very high. Since I wrote foreigners (who subsidize it all) will stop coming.
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Wow - foreign students NOT taking over our beauty academies? You really are taking this whole not getting into the ACC hard. My advice is don't wait, grab the creamed corn and the bottled water and ride it out in the bunker in your father in law's back yard. The rest of us non- will let you know when it's ok to come out...
 
BobbyPs Ghost said:
Wow - foreign students NOT taking over our beauty academies? You really are taking this whole not getting into the ACC hard. My advice is don't wait, grab the creamed corn and the bottled water and ride it out in the bunker in your father in law's back yard. The rest of us non- will let you know when it's ok to come out...
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My advice to you: shut up.
 
BobbyPs Ghost said:
My advice to you: take your own advice.

That, and stop being a baby...
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Criticism of podunkville = being a baby.

And clearly, you don't know much about Jim Calhoun's infamous barbs,.
 
cardsfan123 said:
That may have been the case 10-15 years ago but Louisville has made great strides over the last decade in improving the quality of its academics. We only recently just became ranked in the US News & World Report best schools list or whatever and moved up 15 spots since last year. I'd also like to point out our endowment is over two and a half times larger than UConn's despite having almost 10k fewer students and not being the flagship school in its state, and while that alone isn't not indicative of the quality of education it certainly indicates the level of commitment.

I'm not saying UConn isn't a good school but it's extremely ignorant to call Louisville a "glorified community college" or a "semi pro sports team".
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perception is reality. on this board, louisville is a glorified commuter school.
 
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cardsfan123 said:
Can you argue with them? If UConn had been added to the ACC then FSU and Clemson would've most certainly left, at which point the floodgates would've opened, which probably would've resulted in the Big East and ACC leftovers merging, which would mean UConn wouldn't really have been any better off than they are now. The southern schools made it clear they didn't want another northern school to appease the academic junkies. And since Louisville was added the ACC has signed a GoR and increased its TV payout, so I don't think the "NC cartel" regrets it nearly as much as you guys would like to think.

Adding Louisville stabilized the ACC for the time being which made everyone happy. Would UConn have done the same thing, or just the opposite?
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ugh... are you really making this argument loosely based on blog logic and WV insider information?
 
CTMike said:
Thanks, very interesting quotes. I guess at least we can say that we don't have any strong enemies in the B1G (that I'm aware of)... unlike Cinci. Doesn't mean they love us, but... better than being blackballed.
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You're welcome. I am not aware of UConn having any enemies in the B1G. I think it really is more an issue of lack of advocates. There is certainly an arrogance in his statements and it reflects that on the B1G leadership as a whole. However, his honesty also points the way to the B1G for UConn: AAU membership, research, academics, population, athletic success, etc. If UConn wants in the B1G, then it will need to be its own advocate through making itself successful in the areas that matter to the B1G and doing what it can to make the B1G take notice and show how the addition of UConn is beneficial to the B1G.
 
upstater said:
Criticism of podunkville = being a baby.

And clearly, you don't know much about Jim Calhoun's infamous barbs,.
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And you live where exactly?

And you're right - given that I'm not a UConn supporter or alum - I've never felt the need to hang on Jim Calhoun quotes or, be bothered by them. It does seem that at one point or another in his career he had unpleasant things to say on a lot of topics which, tends to water down specific "barbs".
 
Marty Jackson said:
ugh... are you really making this argument loosely based on blog logic and WV insider information?
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How would it have played out then, Nostradamus? FSU and Clemson (and Georgia Tech to a lesser degree) were all clearly opposed to adding UConn. That much is known. They were so opposed to it, in fact, they threatened to cut and run if UConn was added, which was the only leverage they had over the Tobacco Road schools.

You guys want to pump academics as if they actually mean something in the grand scheme of realignment, but honestly how many schools have been added to power 5 conferences in the last 2 years solely because of their USNWR ranking? Today it's about TV market and athletics. WVU, Utah, TCU, Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, Nebraska, Colorado, Rutgers, Missouri, Texas A&M, and Maryland are all either located in areas with large populations (or they're the flagship program in their state) or they have great athletics, or both. The southern ACC schools didn't want another Boston College added to the league just so the ACC could brag about how awesome it is to have another great northeastern school that sucks in football, can you really disagree with them?
 
cardsfan123 said:
How would it have played out then, Nostradamus? FSU and Clemson (and Georgia Tech to a lesser degree) were all clearly opposed to adding UConn. That much is known. They were so opposed to it, in fact, they threatened to cut and run if UConn was added, which was the only leverage they had over the Tobacco Road schools.

You guys want to pump academics as if they actually mean something in the grand scheme of realignment, but honestly how many schools have been added to power 5 conferences in the last 2 years solely because of their USNWR ranking? Today it's about TV market and athletics. WVU, Utah, TCU, Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, Nebraska, Colorado, Rutgers, Missouri, Texas A&M, and Maryland are all either located in areas with large populations (or they're the flagship program in their state) or they have great athletics, or both. The southern ACC schools didn't want another Boston College added to the league just so the ACC could brag about how awesome it is to have another great northeastern school that sucks in football, can you really disagree with them?
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tv markets and athletics huh?
on which of those factors does uofl rank ahead of uconn?

i agree that being a southern school helped.

the biggest factor was perception. the same way louisville is viewed as a glorified commuter school, it's also viewed to have more football tradition than uconn.
Perception is reality. that and being a southern school were the factors.
 
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