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You hate bagging on college kids, but make a thread calling a UConn National Champion the softest big man you've ever seen (and as Gurley pointed out - it's an uninformed opinion to boot).

Makes tons of sense, bro.
 
Who's crying ?!?!?
God forbid a fan is unbiased in his opinion, you all are too much, lol Take the blinders off
Unbiased is not the same as stupid. Your post was much closer to stupid then was a "informed unbiased opinion".
 
Unbiased is not the same as stupid. Your post was much closer to stupid then was a "informed unbiased opinion".

theres nothing stupid or uninformed about it...... Until AO plays a full 40 w/o being a "bitch" and starts imposing his dominance on others....the soft comment STANDS. It is what it is

Man up Alex....
 
err, dude almost had a double double and worked hard all game. This is a stupid game to call AO out on. He was fine today.
 
err, dude almost had a double double and worked hard all game. This is a stupid game to call AO out on. He was fine today.

Maybe I just have higher expectations for the player he should be. Im not trying to be a , i'm actually quite surprised not many agree with me. I was screaming at him through the screen the whole game....i dont know maybe i shouldnt expect him to be dominate
 
Soft is the wrong word for him. He doesn't mind throwing his body around, and he's going to have days when he dominates the middle. If he has a consistent fault, it's that he just doesn't seem to be instinctual enough - if there's a deflection on a loose ball or a crazy carom, it's usually not going to end up in his hands. He did not miss his calling as a hockey goalie. Similarly, if his first move is taken away on offense, he tends to just stick with that first move and throw something at the rim through the defender.
I agree with high post. By far and away the best assessment of AO I've read. If you are not nyhuskyfan you have to be related to him. Your analysis has been as good as anyone's I've read.
 
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theres nothing stupid or uninformed about it...... Until AO plays a full 40 w/o being a "bitch" and starts imposing his dominance on others....the soft comment STANDS. It is what it is

Man up Alex....

Maybe I just have higher expectations for the player he should be. Im not trying to be a , i'm actually quite surprised not many agree with me. I was screaming at him through the screen the whole game....i dont know maybe i shouldnt expect him to be dominate

You may not be trying, but you certainly are succeeding
 
I agree with high post. By far and away the best assessment of AO I've read. If you are not nyhuskyfan you have to be related to him. Your analysis has been as good as anyone's I've read.

I'm afraid you cracked the code. Don't live in ny any more, so the old handle doesn't make any sense. But I grew up on Gurleyville Road, so this one works no matter where I live.
 
I'm afraid you cracked the code. Don't live in ny any more, so the old handle doesn't make any sense. But I grew up on Gurleyville Road, so this one works no matter where I live.
I'm glad you're back and I'm sure others are thrilled as well.
 
nyhuskyfan (where is he?) said something that I think is important:

In sports, progress isn't always linear.

Every game won't always be better than the previous. Every season won't always be a certain percentage better than the previous. But that doesn't mean there isn't improvement.
He's posting in this thread as Gurleyman.
 
nyhuskyfan (where is he?) said something that I think is important:
In sports, progress isn't always linear.

That saying about an infinite number of monkeys comes to mind. That dude seriously had a few screws loose - he was full of gibberish most of the time, but I guess he managed to say one smart thing.
 
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I'm curious why it is AO can't seem to catch a basketball anymore. I've always rooted for him but if I was on the team, I might think twice before giving him the ball in the post. Given the minutes, he'll get his rebounds and play solid d, would've been nice to see him develop a solid post game by now. It's always seemed like he's right on the verge of having one.
 
He played hard today. I thought he made a good jump forward today. That Abron dude was clubbing him like a baby seal. If any big man looked a little soft it was AD today. I was screaming at my TV "get under the basket" all game. He really did not seem to have his head in the game.

I'm not sure if others have noticed this, but how well Drummond has played thus far has resulted almost entirely on whether he can stay out of foul trouble or not. Today he picked up two early fouls and that just threw him off for the rest of the game, never seeming to get into a rhythm. He's really going to have to eliminate those dumb fouls from his game, otherwise he will probably be inconsistant all year long.

Obviously one rebound in 17 minutes isn't going to get it done, but AD seems like one of thoes guys who can go silent for stretches, and then look like the best player on the court for stretches as well. Hopefully by the end of the season we'll be getting more of the latter.
 
I'm not sure if others have noticed this, but how well Drummond has played thus far has resulted almost entirely on whether he can stay out of foul trouble or not. Today he picked up two early fouls and that just threw him off for the rest of the game, never seeming to get into a rhythm. He's really going to have to eliminate those dumb fouls from his game, otherwise he will probably be inconsistant all year long.

Obviously one rebound in 17 minutes isn't going to get it done, but AD seems like one of thoes guys who can go silent for stretches, and then look like the best player on the court for stretches as well. Hopefully by the end of the season we'll be getting more of the latter.

That second foul should have been called on Roscoe, too...
 
I'm afraid you cracked the code. Don't live in ny any more, so the old handle doesn't make any sense. But I grew up on Gurleyville Road, so this one works no matter where I live.

You ought to join the chat again sometimes....haven't had anything quite like the dynamic duo re-writing history with Joyce about the number of losses by the '99 team. That was a classic.

Also, Gurleyman somehow seems to suit you.
 
I agree with high post. By far and away the best assessment of AO I've read. If you are not nyhuskyfan you have to be related to him. Your analysis has been as good as anyone's I've read.

Great call there, fleud!
 
Great call there, fleud!
I took me a couple of posts. But he had nyhuskyfan all over him. I'm glad he's back. I won't have to strain my puny brain.
 
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say what you want but the man is soft period....i could care less if his shot is falling, his part on his this team is not to be a scoring threat. His job is to an enforcer plain and simple... and establish his dominance in the paint. He gets pushed aound with ease down low giving up boards that should be his. Jeff Adrian wasnt that big either but he made himself known down low banging with the trees. Like I said before I wouldn't be that critical if i knew he couldnt do it......

If this is what you think of Alex I would love to hear what you think of Tyler O. Please tell.
 
I call'em like i see'em.

This reminds me of that old George Carlin bit when he did fake news. His sports guy said, "I call 'em the way I see 'em. And when I don't see 'em, I make 'em up!"
 
Also, Gurleyman somehow seems to suit you.

I thought about something with Horsebarn Hill, since I went sledding there as a kid, but I felt like I'd be ripping off Citizen Kane.

I forgot about that re-writing of history. Shame on Joyce for trying to re-write it and somehow give Syracuse credit for Miami's win. Props to the Hurricanes, of course. They beat us fair and square.
 
alex was okay today - his effort was much much better no doubt. Having said that fundamentals still missing didn't put a body on anyone when he had postition for a board, especially weakside a few times. His hands are awful and seemingly worst today which is the reason he came down with a rebound by the waist and was tied up by the big dude from Arkansas. The post move when he turned and faced and got tied up again was way too robotic.........but hey baby steps people. He played hard, would've had 20 boards with hands but they will never be there. Need him backfull of confidence soon!
 
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Soft is the wrong word for him. He doesn't mind throwing his body around, and he's going to have days when he dominates the middle. If he has a consistent fault, it's that he just doesn't seem to be instinctual enough - if there's a deflection on a loose ball or a crazy carom, it's usually not going to end up in his hands. He did not miss his calling as a hockey goalie. Similarly, if his first move is taken away on offense, he tends to just stick with that first move and throw something at the rim through the defender.
Right! He is definitely not soft...he is a bull of a kid and not afraid to mix it up and he showed a lot of,good,things out there today. However, he did struggle (not the only one btw)in catching the ball, snatching rebounds, bringing the ball down low so the opponent can grab it and being out of position (timing off on his jumps leaving him out of balance and unable to box out for proper position)...step forward today IMO for AO...keep it up!
 
When did it become OK to call out productive players on the team? This is one of the worst threads I have seen on this board.
 
When did it become OK to call out productive players on the team? This is one of the worst threads I have seen on this board.

The internet is proving UConn fans to be idiots in general. People are shit talking Drummond on twitter as soon as the game is over.

I bet Sammydabiz is one of them.
 
Sorry. Anyone who has averaged nearly 10 rpg is not soft. Adrien averaged .1 rpg more his sophomore year than did AO (9.6 as a sophomore for AO, 9.7 for JA). The issue is his struggle on offense.

FWIW, I thought Jeff Adrien had soft hands too...but he was a different player than Oriakhi in many aspects. Plus, physically, his hands were much smaller. I thought that Adrien played above his ability for his bodily characteristics. On the other hand, I don't think Oriakhi is. I didn't watch the whole game (traveling back from the Cincy/UConn football game) but the second half, I just saw us get dominanted on the offensive board.

Yes, some of the offensive boards were from ridiculous bounces off the rim, but there were a few series where UConn as a team just did not box out. I'm really not sure how 2-3 Arkansas players were able to get under the rim with position for some of those rebounds. It doesn't make sense.

As far as AO getting angry - that typically leads to technicals. And regardless of how soft he is, we don't really have much depth at the post - so I'd rather him not get T'd up if it puts him on the bench or renders him even more useless in the game (playing it safe.)

I'm not sure that it's about AO being soft anymore. I just think his basketball IQ is pretty low. Maybe not in terms of what we've seen from him in his best games - but in a lot of these games, he has problems with boxing out, or learning when (not) to take the shot. Some games he's been brilliant, but I think more often than not, we are underwhelmed by his performances. We know he's extremely talented - but can he effectively turn that talent into results?

As of right now, Alex Oriakhi will not make it into the NBA. He may get picked up by a D-league team or get a late 2nd round pick his senior year based on his physical attributes - but at this point, it appears he may go the Stix route.
 
Is this serious. Any and every UConn National Champion gets a pass.

Soft =/= inconsistent. And calling him a "bitch" is just ridiculous.
 
If this is what you think of Alex I would love to hear what you think of Tyler O. Please tell.

I think the general thing is that with Ty, we can physically see the effort. Let's be honest, Tyler is physically awkward. He just isn't your prototype player who makes it into the NBA. Yet, it is plain obvious to see that Tyler put in great effort this summer to be better - make smarter plays. At least now we can get many serviceable minutes from Ty. He's improved so much from last season.

On the other hand, many NBA scouts have fawned over Alex's physical attributes. And definitely in some games, when we've seen Alex put in 110%, he's been freaking unstoppable. While we don't expect that every game, those games are few and far between. He should just be dominating some of these smaller teams and he quite frankly isn't.

So while they're putting down similar statistics (and dare I say Tyler has been playing better this year?) there are contrasting observations of their talents and physical gifts.
 
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