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While not in D.C. how about Alumni Hall or the Halsey Field House at the United States Naval Academy? Halsey Field House is now a multi-purpose arena but used to serve as the home of the basketball team. Both Alumni Hall and the Halsey Field House have a capacity of 5000 or over and can certainly accommodate this game.
 
WiseWillie said:
While not in D.C. how about Alumni Hall or the Halsey Field House at the United States Naval Academy? Halsey Field House is now a multi-purpose arena but used to serve as the home of the basketball team. Both Alumni Hall and the Halsey Field House have a capacity of 5000 or over and can certainly accommodate this game.
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Naval Academy. Beautiful Arena. Everything there is perfect. $20 for a good seat.
 
YKCornelius said:
Hmmmm.....the US Naval Base in Washington, DC?? I wonder what that refers to?

The Washington Navy Yard does not have a basketball court, so it can't be there. Naval Support Activity Bethesda has an indoor court in their MWR Fitness Center with very limited sideline space. Joint Base Anacostia-Boling across the river has an indoor basketball court in their MWR Fitness Center, as does Joint Base Andrews on the outskirts of DC, but both are tiny - think YMCA gym courts with no seating. Joint Base Ft. Myers - Henderson Hall supporting Arlington Cemetery has a new renovated basketball court in their Fitness Center that just opened two months ago - no idea about that.

Marine Corps Base Quantico - 25 miles to the south has a basketball court in their Fitness Center with pullout bleachers - think small HS gym seating.

They should move the game to Naples, Italy and hold it at the DoDEA high school on the Naval Support Site. The entire Support Site (except the hospital) is owned and maintained by the Italians through a Status of Forces Agreement, so lease costs accrue and life goes on regardless of any government shutdown. I believe the same is true at Aviano Air Force Base and Vicenza Army Base, both in northern Italy.

No insight to the arrangements with the Germans for Ramstein. 😕
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Play it at Louisville. Gives our fans time to plan a road trip.
 
I would be very curious to understand what aspects of the government shutdown would be impacting putting on such a game overseas. Exactly what costs would rely on appropriated funds in order to pull this off: perhaps additional costs for extra security and for processing base access to an influx of civilians?

Morale, Welfare and Recreation (MWR) activities (gyms, fitness centers, ball fields, swimming pools, golf courses, base theaters, etc.) are funded through Non-Appropriated Fund instrumentalities, that operate outside of annual appropriations passed by Congress. Other military base activities and support services, such as commissaries (food) and exchanges (department stores) as well as some on-base lodging accommodations, also operate on NAFs.

Unlike appropriated fund activities, MWR NAFs can be augmented by additional funding avenues, such as proceeds from air shows (Ramstein holds a large air show every year) and certain fund raisers (casino nights, antique auctions, etc.). Truth be told, when I first heard about this game, I figured ESPN was probably paying something for the broadcast rights and thereby help contribute to MWR revenue.

Hopefully the base commander and comptroller folks at Ramstein can sort out the details quickly.
 
YKCornelius said:
I would be very curious to understand what aspects of the government shutdown would be impacting putting on such a game overseas. Exactly what costs would rely on appropriated funds in order to pull this off: perhaps additional costs for extra security and for processing base access to an influx of civilians?

Morale, Welfare and Recreation (MWR) activities (gyms, fitness centers, ball fields, swimming pools, golf courses, base theaters, etc.) are funded through Non-Appropriated Fund instrumentalities, that operate outside of annual appropriations passed by Congress. Other military base activities and support services, such as commissaries (food) and exchanges (department stores) as well as some on-base lodging accommodations, also operate on NAFs.

Unlike appropriated fund activities, MWR NAFs can be augmented by additional funding avenues, such as proceeds from air shows (Ramstein holds a large air show every year) and certain fund raisers (casino nights, antique auctions, etc.). Truth be told, when I first heard about this game, I figured ESPN was probably paying something for the broadcast rights and thereby help contribute to MWR revenue.

Hopefully the base commander and comptroller folks at Ramstein can sort out the details quickly.
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As I mentioned in post #3 above, there would be no influx of civilians since there are no tickets being sold to the public.
espnevents.com

Peraton Armed Forces Classic - ESPN Events

The State Farm Champions Classic, which matches four of the nation’s best programs against each other, began in 2011.
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BobbyJ said:
As I mentioned in post #3 above, there would be no influx of civilians since there are no tickets being sold to the public.
espnevents.com

Peraton Armed Forces Classic - ESPN Events

The State Farm Champions Classic, which matches four of the nation’s best programs against each other, began in 2011.
espnevents.com espnevents.com
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BobbyJ, I am not referring to spectators/fans. The civilians I am referring to include both teams and their support staffs, NCAA referees and game officials, the ESPN production crew, and any credentialed media folks.

That said, although no tickets will be sold to the public, I imagine tickets will be released in some manner to servicemen and their families, as well as civilians who work on-base and are able to take advantage of MWR events. Although these folks would already have base access and therefore not incur any additional processing costs, they will drive increased security at the event on-base.
 
YKCornelius said:
Hmmmm.....the US Naval Base in Washington, DC?? I wonder what that refers to?

The Washington Navy Yard does not have a basketball court, so it can't be there. Naval Support Activity Bethesda has an indoor court in their MWR Fitness Center with very limited sideline space. Joint Base Anacostia-Boling across the river has an indoor basketball court in their MWR Fitness Center, as does Joint Base Andrews on the outskirts of DC, but both are tiny - think YMCA gym courts with no seating. Joint Base Ft. Myers - Henderson Hall supporting Arlington Cemetery has a new renovated basketball court in their Fitness Center that just opened two months ago - no idea about that.

Marine Corps Base Quantico - 25 miles to the south has a basketball court in their Fitness Center with pullout bleachers - think small HS gym seating.

They should move the game to Naples, Italy and hold it at the DoDEA high school on the Naval Support Site. The entire Support Site (except the hospital) is owned and maintained by the Italians through a Status of Forces Agreement, so lease costs accrue and life goes on regardless of any government shutdown. I believe the same is true at Aviano Air Force Base and Vicenza Army Base, both in northern Italy.

No insight to the arrangements with the Germans for Ramstein. 😕
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Basketball courts can be transported and set up in a variety of places regardless of whether the venue already has one.
 
YKCornelius said:
Hmmmm.....the US Naval Base in Washington, DC?? I wonder what that refers to?

The Washington Navy Yard does not have a basketball court, so it can't be there. Naval Support Activity Bethesda has an indoor court in their MWR Fitness Center with very limited sideline space. Joint Base Anacostia-Boling across the river has an indoor basketball court in their MWR Fitness Center, as does Joint Base Andrews on the outskirts of DC, but both are tiny - think YMCA gym courts with no seating. Joint Base Ft. Myers - Henderson Hall supporting Arlington Cemetery has a new renovated basketball court in their Fitness Center that just opened two months ago - no idea about that.

Marine Corps Base Quantico - 25 miles to the south has a basketball court in their Fitness Center with pullout bleachers - think small HS gym seating.

They should move the game to Naples, Italy and hold it at the DoDEA high school on the Naval Support Site. The entire Support Site (except the hospital) is owned and maintained by the Italians through a Status of Forces Agreement, so lease costs accrue and life goes on regardless of any government shutdown. I believe the same is true at Aviano Air Force Base and Vicenza Army Base, both in northern Italy.

No insight to the arrangements with the Germans for Ramstein. 😕
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"Will tickets go on sale for the DC venue soon?"

I'd bet @Bone Dog is talking about the Georgetown game in January because he has a relative there.
 
Swish It 88 said:
"Will tickets go on sale for the DC venue soon?"

I'd bet @Bone Dog is talking about the Georgetown game in January because he has a relative there.
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In this case, no. But that’s not a bad guess. We’re always looking for an excuse to visit our daughter and a second game in the DC area would definitely count.
 
Honestly, I am still a bit confused as to why the game at Ramstein Air Base might need to be cancelled due to the government shutdown. The base is still operating and military personnel are still getting paid. Much of the setup costs will be handled by ESPN.

You would assume that whatever operational issues the shutdown poses at Ramstein would also apply to the DC Naval base. While I understand that some civilian personnel are being furloughed due to the shutdown, wouldn’t that apply to both Ramstein & DC?

Am I missing something?
 
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oldude said:
Honestly, I am still a bit confused as to why the game at Ramstein Air Base might need to be cancelled due to the government shutdown. The base is still operating and military personnel are still getting paid. Much of the setup costs will be handled by ESPN.

You would assume that whatever operational issues the shutdown poses at Ramstein would also apply to the DC Naval base. While I understand that some civilian personnel are being furloughed due to the shutdown, wouldn’t that apply to both Ramstein & DC?

Am I missing something?
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I saw a report (somewhere) that ESPN could not get information/proper
communication with the military about
setting up ESPN's equipment etc., with enough lead time to "make it work"
for them. The report said that the last date to get this done would be
sometime around October 20th?? So, as I read it, the shutdown impaired the
preliminaries for ESPN, ... then the logistics of all this forced the setting up of
alternate planning. Stay tuned!!
 
oldude said:
Honestly, I am still a bit confused as to why the game at Ramstein Air Base might need to be cancelled due to the government shutdown. The base is still operating and military personnel are still getting paid. Much of the setup costs will be handled by ESPN.

You would assume that whatever operational issues the shutdown poses at Ramstein would also apply to the DC Naval base. While I understand that some civilian personnel are being furloughed due to the shutdown, wouldn’t that apply to both Ramstein & DC?

Am I missing something?
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Why wouldn't the same issues apply to a stateside base?
 
oldude said:
Honestly, I am still a bit confused as to why the game at Ramstein Air Base might need to be cancelled due to the government shutdown. The base is still operating and military personnel are still getting paid. Much of the setup costs will be handled by ESPN.

You would assume that whatever operational issues the shutdown poses at Ramstein would also apply to the DC Naval base. While I understand that some civilian personnel are being furloughed due to the shutdown, wouldn’t that apply to both Ramstein & DC?

Am I missing something?
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I had the same questions. Wonder if eventually the game will be moved to the US Naval Academy in Annapolis, MD. Relatively small, Division 1 level gym. On a good traffic day, 30-40 minutes from DC. Would be relatively easy to maintain security, no issues with ongoing operations, and due to number of available seats, parking could work. Suspect that an added advantage would be the ability of senior military and elected officials to attend. Travel for both teams not an issue.
 
oldude said:
Honestly, I am still a bit confused as to why the game at Ramstein Air Base might need to be cancelled due to the government shutdown. The base is still operating and military personnel are still getting paid. Much of the setup costs will be handled by ESPN.

You would assume that whatever operational issues the shutdown poses at Ramstein would also apply to the DC Naval base. While I understand that some civilian personnel are being furloughed due to the shutdown, wouldn’t that apply to both Ramstein & DC?

Am I missing something?
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Military personnel are not getting paid (unfortunately)
 
On the ACC site, they have the game listed at 5:30 PM. I assume that was put up when the game was scheduled in Germany.
 
AP 10/16/25
No. 1 UConn's season opener against No. 20 Louisville that is supposed to be played at Ramstein Air Base in Germany on Nov. 4 is in jeopardy of being moved because of the government shutdown.

A person familiar with the decision told The Associated Press on Thursday that if the shutdown continues until Monday the game will be played at a neutral site in the U.S. on the same day. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because no official announcement has been made.

From HuskyNan- please do not copy and paste copyrighted material in its entirety
 
The game was scheduled to be played in a hangar at Ramstein, starting at 5:30 pm EST, on ESPN's schedule. Not sure exactly what time that would be in Germany, because Europe switches to standard time on a different weekend than we switch here in the States. The story on moving the game stateside because of the government shutdown said it would be at a military installation in DC. I assume that would be Andrews AFB.
 
meyers7 said:
True, you do have to be rested up to get to the 4:00 dinner at Old Country Buffet.
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Yes, i suggest going 10 minutes before, get the lunch rate and slide right on into dinner. Same for weekend breakfast, actually better for me. I like a little breakfast before my Sunday dinner.
 
RockyMTblue2 said:
"The game is where it is because Germany is spookily dangerous now, but Germany is still the host. "
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C’mon Rocky....Give me a break...
Germany “spookily dangerous?"
A preponderance of witches and Jack O Lanterns?
Expliquez, please.
 
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