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husky429 said:
I am not so thrilled with the OOC schedule either. But the idea that we don't know what this team can do is ludicrous. We play 9 guys and only 1 freshman. Most of them are upperclassmen.
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I am not as worried as my last post might make it seem. I was probably being unnecessarily melodramatic. That being said, even though there are very few new bodies, the team is quite different from last year in terms of roles, playing time, and chemistry. I am sure that there are still bugs to work out that won't show themselves until they play top-tier opponents. It would have been nice to have discovered and begun to address said bugs before becoming stranded on an island with no practice time/facilities available.
 
husky429 said:
I am not so thrilled with the OOC schedule either. But the idea that we don't know what this team can do is ludicrous. We play 9 guys and only 1 freshman. Most of them are upperclassmen.
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Yeah, but how is this gonna look if we don’t look up to play auburn tomorrow and our first four “tune-up” games were literally ranked 358/358 in terms of difficulty.
 
I don’t love our schedule but I am far from worried about the team being unprepared for B4A
 
huskdogs said:
Yeah, but how is this gonna look if we don’t look up to play auburn tomorrow and our first four “tune-up” games were literally ranked 358/358 in terms of difficulty.
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That's exactly why I wanted a couple of 100-200 ranked games instead of this level of cupcake. I just don't think it's really fair to say we don't know what this team can bring. Anybody whose been watching us the past few years knows what Cole, Rese, Gaff, Polley, Whaley, Sanogo, and probably even Jackson at this point. The question marks are Akok and Hawkins.
 
husky429 said:
That's exactly why I wanted a couple of 100-200 ranked games instead of this level of cupcake. I just don't think it's really fair to say we don't know what this team can bring. Anybody whose been watching us the past few years knows what Cole, Rese, Gaff, Polley, Whaley, Sanogo, and probably even Jackson at this point. The question marks are Akok and Hawkins.
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Yeah I don't love the quality of the opponents to date heading into Atlantis but this team is both deep and mature. They are going to throw waves of guys at people with a quality depth not a lot of teams can match. I think Hawkins brings it because he's surrounded by vets. I don't expect them to ____ the bed at the first sight of Auburn. To the contrary, it wouldn't surprise me if they pounded them. I expect certain guys to play noticeably better than they have against the cupcakes.

(Me saying this pretty much guarantees they're down 17 at the first media timeout.)
 
They have played against better competition recently in those secret scrimmages so Auburn won't be a shock to the system. And I still think it was good to have this team come together in low pressure games, especially after losing their top guy. If this team was a racehorse I would declare it "Fit and ready to win".
 
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husky429 said:
I am not so thrilled with the OOC schedule either. But the idea that we don't know what this team can do is ludicrous. We play 9 guys and only 1 freshman. Most of them are upperclassmen.
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I don't disagree, it's just that regardless of how much experience you bring back, that first game against a good opponent is always a little different when you haven't done it in 8+ months. It's not so much about the chemistry as it is the level of competition and effort the opposing team is bringing and making sure they remember how to bring it on their end too.
 
I think we all agree this can't happen again. We love to clown on programs like Duke and Cuse for how soft they have always been with scheduling, but I doubt either have ever been dead last through 4 games. Find a quality P5 team that wants a H/H, Florida is probably my first choice for non rivals, Texas and their hype with Chris Beard, and finally maybe the Warde connection could help us lock up Michigan. I love the idea of H/H/MSG with Cuse, but you know either us or them will be too afraid.

Also, never give BCU the time of day. Being in a hockey conference with them pisses me off.
 
The schedule has been unusually weak through 4 games but saying we're dead last in SOS is a bit disingenuous. We're dead last because our MTE hasn't started yet and there's a bunch that have started and some have already concluded. It's comparing apples to oranges
 
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navery12 said:
The schedule has been unusually weak through 4 games but saying we're dead last in SOS is a bit disingenuous. We're dead last because our MTE hasn't started yet and there's a bunch that have started and some have already concluded. It's comparing apples to oranges
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Good point, but we've been near the bottom all season. In any event, I just noticed the ranking and wanted to share it. I didn't mean for it to support any kind of larger agenda.
 
navery12 said:
The schedule has been unusually weak through 4 games but saying we're dead last in SOS is a bit disingenuous. We're dead last because our MTE hasn't started yet and there's a bunch that have started and some have already concluded. It's comparing apples to oranges
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Not really. We were 353/358 before any MTEs started I believe, which is very close to dead last anyway.
 
huskdogs said:
A three year rotation of a home/home then the third year at MSG is perfect.
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that is perfect but i'd settle for a game against Cuse at MSG every year like xavier v. osu or marquette v. wisconsin on neutral floors.
Brochacho said:
My guess is @Florida
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why do we keep playing UF? i wouldn't say no obviously but let's mix it up a bit more if we can.
 
navery12 said:
The schedule has been unusually weak through 4 games but saying we're dead last in SOS is a bit disingenuous. We're dead last because our MTE hasn't started yet and there's a bunch that have started and some have already concluded. It's comparing apples to oranges
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There are tons of people on the board who believe we’ve really improved from last year based upon our games played so far, so I don‘t think it’s disingenuous at all to point out it’s the worst collection teams anyone has faced.
 
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bendm said:
that is perfect but i'd settle for a game against Cuse at MSG every year like xavier v. osu or marquette v. wisconsin on neutral floors.

why do we keep playing UF? i wouldn't say no obviously but let's mix it up a bit more if we can.
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I think we still have a pending game with them that was supposed to be played last year but was canceled.
 
Whatever we do going forward, someone here will bitch about it. Win the games you play and all is well.
 
shizzle787 said:
I know a lot of us were disappointed that we didn't get a big OOC home game. With that said, here is what I think our OOC scheduling philosophy should be with the 11 OOC games a year we get.

3-game MTE Event
Big 12/Big East challenge game
Gavitt game
Syracuse at MSG
Yearly home and homes with Pitt and BC
Three local cupcakes (preferably Yale, Harvard, Princeton)

Hopefully, we could parlay the home and homes with Pitt and BC into yearly series in football.
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Normally I don't have a ton of complaints about scheduling, but you could argue we should of come out of the gate and played a tougher opponent. Considering the maturity of our squad. Whatever I guess. Auburn tomorrow. Opportunity to play other solid opponents in the following days. Everything is cool.

Edit: I'm not sure you want an annual formula. The team isn't the same each year. Younger, older, more experience, less experience, etc.... I'd want to adjust the schedule accordingly.
 
husky429 said:
Good Guys:
  • CCSU - #342
  • Coppin - #324
  • LIU - #181
  • Binghamton - #303
  • Auburn - #23
  • Michigan State - #25/Loyola Chicago - #36
  • Battle 4 Atlantis - ????
  • Maryland ES - #358
  • Grambling State - #261
  • West Virginia - #35
  • St. Bonnies - #15
'Nova:
  • Mt. St. Mary's - #38
  • UCLA - #2
  • Howard - #308
  • Tenn - #14
  • UNC - #20 / Purdue - #7
  • LaSalle - #240
  • Penn - #183
  • USJ - #234
  • Syracuse - #67
  • Baylor - #9
  • Temple - #129
Yeah, their OOC schedule puts ours to shame. We aren't on that level yet, but I would like to see those 250+ ranked teams on our schedule turn into 50-150 if we can.

We aren't ready to have 5 top-25 OOC games like Nova. I like the # of high quality teams we have. But the bottom dwellers of D1 are just boring to play against.
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Are you saying we are not on Villanova’s level yet? If you are then shame on you.
 
ucp990411 said:
Are you saying we are not on Villanova’s level yet? If you are then shame on you.
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Take a chill pill, bub. This isn't the fate of the known universe, it's a sports team.
 
husky429 said:
Take a chill pill, bub. This isn't the fate of the known universe, it's a sports team.
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I am not what you would call a casual fan, and that is since the days of Spider Hesford.
 
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huskdogs said:
Yeah, but how is this gonna look if we don’t look up to play auburn tomorrow and our first four “tune-up” games were literally ranked 358/358 in terms of difficulty.
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Luckily Auburn has only played 2 cupcakes & USF (won by 6) so they haven't played a good team yet either.
 
bendm said:
that is perfect but i'd settle for a game against Cuse at MSG every year like xavier v. osu or marquette v. wisconsin on neutral floors.
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MU/WI game rotates between the home court each year, no neutral in that case.
 
Hi-Low said:
Luckily Auburn has only played 2 cupcakes & USF (won by 6) so they haven't played a good team yet either.
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USF is barely better in Torvik/Kenpom that LIU was anyways. They're essentially a cupcake, though a stronger one than we've played... and one that Auburn looked pretty bad against.

Torvik: USF-240, LIU-264

Kenpom: 190 USF, LIU-275
 
Why don't we all just get back to being scheduled for a slot in Champion's Classic? ;)
 
Hi-Low said:
Luckily Auburn has only played 2 cupcakes & USF (won by 6) so they haven't played a good team yet either.
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USF is certainly a tier above LIU. They're almost 100 spots ahead on KenPom. But even more importantly, that was a true road game for Auburn. So yeah, they were supposed to win by 12 and they won by 6. We've been favorites by 30+ points in all 4 games. Certainly a difference in competition level. We need to come out with some energy, for sure.
 
MU in MKE said:
MU/WI game rotates between the home court each year, no neutral in that case.
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But They just played at the bucks arena. I guess that was considered a MU home game. Whatever same can be said for us and MSG
 
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