One reason our future is not all doom and gloom

[FfldCntyFan]

My point is UConn will look like USF next year. A new coach doesn't magically change things.

Things won't magically change. When the new regime takes over, it will be similar to 2001. It never should have gotten to that point but it has, at breakneck speed no less.

My position is however that I would rather have the man who will bring us back to where we want to be in five to six years begin the process this coming winter, not 2015 and absolutely not 2016.

 

[whaler11]

I'm pretty sure self righteousness is an emotion. Go hijack another thread. You missed the whole point of the thread, and that is not debatable.

I actually didn't. You want to pin hopes on a high school senior who has verbally committed to a coach who is getting fired.

This after every Boneyard great next hope has accomplished next to nothing on the football field.

When you haven't signed an LOI and the coach is gone, a verbal commitment means absolutely nothing. Especially on the kids who will have options.

 

[sportsart]

I actually didn't. You want to pin hopes on a high school senior who has verbally committed to a coach who is getting fired.

This after every Boneyard great next hope has accomplished next to nothing on the football field.

When you haven't signed an LOI and the coach is gone, a verbal commitment means absolutely nothing. Especially on the kids who will have options.

Are you so lost in you angry little world that you don't realize if you don't have some kind of hope, you got nothing?

We all know what the future MAY hold but we HOPE it's better than it appears. If you are so down on the future don't bother following them. Really, just stop talking for once.

 

[HuskyDogArt]

I actually didn't. You want to pin hopes on a high school senior who has verbally committed to a coach who is getting fired.

This after every Boneyard great next hope has accomplished next to nothing on the football field.

When you haven't signed an LOI and the coach is gone, a verbal commitment means absolutely nothing. Especially on the kids who will have options.

Sportsart:

Whaler11 is correct. I still think that a HS FB 4 star in CT is not as good as a FB 2 star in a FB hotbed state -- ie Texas, Florida. That HS star from Ansonia - if he was at Strawberry Crest, Lennard or East Bay (3 semi-weak Hillsborough FB schools) would be on the bench at those schools - and wouldn't be on the team at the powerhouses -- Jefferson, Plant or Armwood!

What we need is a coach who will recruit Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Texas and even California (Jim Calhoun got Kevin Ollie from LA now KO is the coach). We need an assistant head coach from Utexas, OSU, Florida or even Oklahoma.

 

[sportsart]

Sportsart:

Whaler11 is correct. I still think that a HS FB 4 star in CT is not as good as a FB 2 star in a FB hotbed state -- ie Texas, Florida. That HS star from Ansonia - if he was at Strawberry Crest, Lennard or East Bay (3 semi-weak Hillsborough FB schools) would be on the bench at those schools - and wouldn't be on the team at the powerhouses -- Jefferson, Plant or Armwood!

What we need is a coach who will recruit Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Texas and even California (Jim Calhoun got Kevin Ollie from LA now KO is the coach). We need an assistant head coach from Utexas, OSU, Florida or even Oklahoma.

He's not right because this wasn't about Newsome's ability or any one player's ability to save us from a future similar to the recent Syracuse run. It was about a bright spot for next year.

It was about a momentary distraction from this recent loss. I wasn't looking for a know it all's determination to hijack the thread and spread the gloom and doom I was trying to escape from.

 

[whaler11]

Are you so lost in you angry little world that you don't realize if you don't have some kind of hope, you got nothing?

We all know what the future MAY hold but we HOPE it's better than it appears. If you are so down on the future don't bother following them. Really, just stop talking for once.

It can't be worse. I'm not sure why you conflate reality with anger. I'm not sure why you haven't learned from the last decade that simply deciding a player is good and will improve the team is at best pointless and at worst counter-productive.

Unlike so many in our 'fanbase' I don't abandon my teams just because they aren't good. But it's a great idea to encourage people to not follow the team because that's a winning strategy.

I'm hopeful that the next coach they hire is the right answer. I'm not going to pretend that the current situation is better than it is just because that's how you want to approach it.

 

[HuskyDogArt]

If only reality had a dislike button you could hit every morning when you wake up - because it's reality you don't want to deal with.

Whaler 11:

I deal with reality. I think PP was a coach for the 90s but not for 2013! I just wish Warde would FIRE PP and GDL now!!

 

[HuskyDogArt]

He's not right because this wasn't about Newsome's ability or any one player's ability to save us from a future similar to the recent Syracuse run. It was about a bright spot for next year.

It was about a momentary distraction from this recent loss. I wasn't looking for a know it all's determination to hijack the thread and spread the gloom and doom I was trying to escape from.

"I'm just a fan who wants to win for Jazz-#6"

Newsome, if PP and GDL gets fired and he decided to go to UMass (or wherever), might be a loss (in terms of recruiting CT), but if get a coach who can recruit 5 star players from Football hotbeds we might get a 4 star player who wasn't recruited as highly because his team went 4-6. I want more recruits from hotbed areas - a 4 star player from Vermont is like a 1 star player in Florida.

 

[UConnDan97]

I love all this talk about "reality", as if something in the future can be defined as "reality". Reality is something that is happening in the present or has happened in the past.

Was it "reality" to think that we would go to the Fiesta Bowl after starting out 3-4??? I'm sure that many on this board who love to speak of "reality" did not imagine that specific reality that year.

So Sportsart is talking about a specific possibility in the future, and he's getting harassed for it. As if anyone here or elsewhere on the planet knows what the outcome will be! Newsome might come in here and literally tear it up on the field; he could even end up better than Donald Brown or Jordan Todman...who knows yet? All I know is that there are some special kids that have come out of Connecticut that can positively change a program's future....cough, cough, Orlovsky!, cough...and I choose to share Sportsart's vision of the future...

 

[whaler11]

I love all this talk about "reality", as if something in the future can be defined as "reality". Reality is something that is happening in the present or has happened in the past.

Was it "reality" to think that we would go to the Fiesta Bowl after starting out 3-4??? I'm sure that many on this board who love to speak of "reality" did not imagine that specific reality that year.

So Sportsart is talking about a specific possibility in the future, and he's getting harassed for it. As if anyone here or elsewhere on the planet knows what the outcome will be! Newsome might come in here and literally tear it up on the field; he could even end up better than Donald Brown or Jordan Todman...who knows yet? All I know is that there are some special kids that have come out of Connecticut that can positively change a program's future....cough, cough, Orlovsky!, cough...and I choose to share Sportsart's vision of the future...

Last week I was a jerk for pointing
out that posters were taking Towson way too lightly. Today it's because I think it's premature to get overly excited about a player who hasn't even signed an LOI.

I don't claim to know what the outcome will be. I do know that naming yet another potential program savior, based
on prior results it's pretty unlikely.

It's pretty funny that I'm Mr Negative and I haven't given up as much on 2013 as all the Johnny Positives. I don't know if they will beat Maryland but I think it's going to be a lot closer than 99% of people at this point.

 

[sportsart]

Last week I was a jerk for pointing
out that posters were taking Towson way too lightly. Today it's because I think it's premature to get overly excited about a player who hasn't even signed an LOI.

I don't claim to know what the outcome will be. I do know that naming yet another potential program savior, based
on prior results it's pretty unlikely.

It's pretty funny that I'm Mr Negative and I haven't given up as much on 2013 as all the Johnny Positives. I don't know if they will beat Maryland but I think it's going to be a lot closer than 99% of people at this point.

You can't wait to point out what you knew about the Towson game. That's the difference in your posts compared to others. Who gives a shart that you felt we were taking Towson too light. Atta boy...

Who's getting overly excited about anybody? It's just your way of changing things around to fit your words. Just because I said I BELIEVED, not knew, but BELIEVED we had the second coming of TC, who or what gives you the right to hijack this thread and tell us that we are in so deep no one player can save us?

Next time try and stay on topic and if you feel so inclined start your own thread and bloviate away.

 

[whaler11]

You can't wait to point out what you knew about the Towson game. That's the difference in your posts compared to others. Who gives a shart that you felt we were taking Towson too light. Atta boy...

Who's getting overly excited about anybody? It's just your way of changing things around to fit your words. Just because I said I BELIEVED, not knew, but BELIEVED we had the second coming of TC, who or what gives you the right to hijack this thread and tell us that we are in so deep no one player can save us?

Next time try and stay on topic and if you feel so inclined start your own thread and bloviate away.

Can't wait? I waited 4 days to point it out so I guess I was pretty patient. I don't care if you listen to me or respect my opinion, but if I get attacked for an opinion that was clearly correct I'm going to remind you the next time I'm being attacked.

Who is the angry one? Highjacked topic? Pointing out in a thread naming yet another savior that these threads have been ridiculous beyond belief is not off-topic.

 

[junglehusky]

Of course you can take a couple players and say this one is good and that one is good. You need 50 guys up and down the roster contributing, and guess what it's not always the skill position guys who matter most. Just because people know their names doesn't make them more important.

Yes this team has a huge coaching problem. It also has a pretty significant talent issue.

WE have a significant talent gap to the top tier programs. I do not believe the gap to programs like rutgers, Pitt, BC, Maryland, most of the teams in the AAC, or even most of the teams in the NCAA, is as significant. We do have a disadvantage of recruiting grounds. A new coach will not get us into the CFB playoff. But a new coach recruiting at a similar level to Pasqualoni and Edsall can absolutely get UConn 7, 8, 9 wins in year 2 or year 3. If you do not believe that, maybe it's time to find some interests other than UConn football.

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[UConnDan97]

Last week I was a jerk for pointing
out that posters were taking Towson way too lightly. Today it's because I think it's premature to get overly excited about a player who hasn't even signed an LOI.

I don't claim to know what the outcome will be. I do know that naming yet another potential program savior, based
on prior results it's pretty unlikely.

It's pretty funny that I'm Mr Negative and I haven't given up as much on 2013 as all the Johnny Positives. I don't know if they will beat Maryland but I think it's going to be a lot closer than 99% of people at this point.

Well, if you are counting me as one of the Johnny Positives that has given up on the season, you've got another thing coming.

And sometimes, it's best to step back from the keyboard before hitting the "post reply" button, and say to yourself, "Self, am I being a on this one?" It was more than painfully clear what Sportsart was saying in this thread, hence the friggin' title. Do we need the probabilities of whether Newsome will be the next great running back? Do we need the Vegas odds on it? Did anyone ask you for it? I'm sure you know what the answers are to those questions.

By the way, I would love to know which posters gave you a hard time about respecting Towson, because I'm pretty sure it wasn't Sportsart...

 

[whaler11]

Well, if you are counting me as one of the Johnny Positives that has given up on the season, you've got another thing coming.

And sometimes, it's best to step back from the keyboard before hitting the "post reply" button, and say to yourself, "Self, am I being a on this one?" It was more than painfully clear what Sportsart was saying in this thread, hence the friggin' title. Do we need the probabilities of whether Newsome will be the next great running back? Do we need the Vegas odds on it? Did anyone ask you for it? I'm sure you know what the answers are to those questions.

By the way, I would love to know which posters gave you a hard time about respecting Towson, because I'm pretty sure it wasn't Sportsart...

I don't know if you've given up on the season but many have.

Am I the only one around here who needs to decide if their posts are douchy before hitting send?

As for your questions - are we only allowed to post when someone asks us a direct question?

I struggle to wrap my head around why people don't get that anointing saviors doesn't work and we'd all be better off if it would stop but by all means - I won't point it out the next time a poster decides a player who isn't even on the team is the next great thing. For some reason people can't let the kid's breathe, but I guess the dozen examples aren't enough.

 

[whaler11]

WE have a significant talent gap to the top tier programs. I do not believe the gap to programs like rutgers, Pitt, BC, Maryland, most of the teams in the AAC, or even most of the teams in the NCAA, is as significant. We do have a disadvantage of recruiting grounds. A new coach will not get us into the CFB playoff. But a new coach recruiting at a similar level to Pasqualoni and Edsall can absolutely get UConn 7, 8, 9 wins in year 2 or year 3. If you do not believe that, maybe it's time to find some interests other than UConn football.

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Obviously we are closer to say Syracuse than Syracuse is to Alabama.

2013 UConn has a gap to 2011 and 2012 UConn. That's a huge problem and that's probably going to take 2-3 classes to fix. Maybe they hit the lottery and hire a savant - but I can't even think of an example where that happened.

 

[UConnDan97]

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Let me address your post line by line:

I don't know if you've given up on the season but many have. I haven't. I will never.

Am I the only one around here who needs to decide if their posts are douchy before hitting send? No, you're not. But still....worth a try...

As for your questions - are we only allowed to post when someone asks us a direct question? No. You are allowed to post anything you want so long as the mods don't have a problem with it. You MAY wish to ask yourself what you think you are adding to a conversation celebrating a new local recruit by poo-pooing on the suggestion of him being really really good.

I struggle to wrap my head around why people don't get that anointing saviors doesn't work and we'd all be better off if it would stop but by all means - I won't point it out the next time a poster decides a player who isn't even on the team is the next great thing. For some reason people can't let the kid's breathe, but I guess the dozen examples aren't enough We can only hope...

 

[sportsart]

I actually gave no respect to Towson Dan..but I just wrote a whole bunch more and hit the wrong button and it all went away...so I'm done with this thread.

There's no debating, arguing or discussing anything with Whaler11. I've been wrong on more than one occasion on this board and have said so. Some people fight to the end no matter what.

I guess our future is gloom and doom folks.

 

[UConnDan97]

I actually gave no respect to Towson Dan..but I just wrote a whole bunch more and hit the wrong button and it all went away...so I'm done with this thread.

There's no debating, arguing or discussing anything with Whaler11. I've been wrong on more than one occasion on this board and have said so. Some people fight to the end no matter what.

I guess our future is gloom and doom folks.

Fair enough about Towson. As for making mistakes....I can't remember the last time I was right on one of my 13-0 predictions either, so we're both in the same club. It should go on the record though that I have been right about the men's basketball team being National Champions three times already, so I've got THAT going for me...

Bottom line: Newsome is a very promising prospect and I hope he absolutely tears it up in national flag blue. There's no reason not to believe in the future...

 

[uconnell]

Last week I was a jerk for pointing
out that posters were taking Towson way too lightly.



I thought the same thing.... posters were taking Towson lightly and you were a jerk for pointing it out!

 

[whaler11]

Let me address your post line by line:

I don't know if you've given up on the season but many have. I haven't. I will never.

Am I the only one around here who needs to decide if their posts are douchy before hitting send? No, you're not. But still....worth a try...

As for your questions - are we only allowed to post when someone asks us a direct question? No. You are allowed to post anything you want so long as the mods don't have a problem with it. You MAY wish to ask yourself what you think you are adding to a conversation celebrating a new local recruit by poo-pooing on the suggestion of him being really really good.

I struggle to wrap my head around why people don't get that anointing saviors doesn't work and we'd all be better off if it would stop but by all means - I won't point it out the next time a poster decides a player who isn't even on the team is the next great thing. For some reason people can't let the kid's breathe, but I guess the dozen examples aren't enough We can only hope...

I have not 'pooh poohed' this kid at all. He isn't on the team. He hasn't signed an LOI. When you have a coaching change you generally experience turnover with your class. He's got a good reputation and is pretty highly regarded. So not only does he have to be good - they have the challenge of him ever enrolling. It's like being excited about a lottery ticket. You can pick any player who's verballed to any school and start the same thread. There is no point.

So I realize some of my posts are douchy. You must realize some of your posts are ridiculous - shouldn't you think about hitting send?

 

[whaler11]

I actually gave no respect to Towson Dan..but I just wrote a whole bunch more and hit the wrong button and it all went away...so I'm done with this thread.

There's no debating, arguing or discussing anything with Whaler11. I've been wrong on more than one occasion on this board and have said so. Some people fight to the end no matter what.

I guess our future is gloom and doom folks.

If you are trying to infer I don't admit when I'm wrong, you know that's a crock of . ..

 

[UConnDan97]

I have not 'pooh poohed' this kid at all. He isn't on the team. He hasn't signed an LOI. When you have a coaching change you generally experience turnover with your class. He's got a good reputation and is pretty highly regarded. So not only does he have to be good - they have the challenge of him ever enrolling. It's like being excited about a lottery ticket. You can pick any player who's verballed to any school and start the same thread. There is no point.

So I realize some of my posts are douchy. You must realize some of your posts are ridiculous - shouldn't you think about hitting send?

If questioning whether a highly ranked recruit will back out of his verbal on a thread that is dedicated to him is not considered "poo-pooing", or if stating that the odds are highly against him being great is not considered "poo-pooing", then I take it all back. Do you think I should take it all back, now that I've spelled it out like that?

And yes, I do realize that some of my posts are ridiculous. Mostly ridiculous in a positive sense, though, and that's why I ultimately hit the "send" button. I don't mind being ridiculous if it is in support of my school, its athletic programs, or its fans...

 

[whaler11]

If questioning whether a highly ranked recruit will back out of his verbal on a thread that is dedicated to him is not considered "poo-pooing", or if stating that the odds are highly against him being great is not considered "poo-pooing", then I take it all back. Do you think I should take it all back, now that I've spelled it out like that?

And yes, I do realize that some of my posts are ridiculous. Mostly ridiculous in a positive sense, though, and that's why I ultimately hit the "send" button. I don't mind being ridiculous if it is in support of my school, its athletic programs, or its fans...

I'm not pooh poohing the kid though. He might be really good. Is it really not clear that everyone who has been hyped here hasn't panned out? Let this kid breathe.

Don't think I don't like and respect your opinion Dan. Even though I drive you crazy I still listen to what you say. Same with Art. I might aggressively debate with you guys but I know you are on the right side of the battle and just want UConn to win.

 

[UConnDan97]

I'm not pooh poohing the kid though. He might be really good. Is it really not clear that everyone who has been hyped here hasn't panned out? Let this kid breathe.

Don't think I don't like and respect your opinion Dan. Even though I drive you crazy I still listen to what you say. Same with Art. I might aggressively debate with you guys but I know you are on the right side of the battle and just want UConn to win.

Fair enough. Not trying to put the weight of the world on the kid's shoulders. Just want to show that we're happy he chose to be a Husky and we're excited about his arrival and his skill sets.

As for us, I always know who to go to if I need a Vegas number on a game or who I should take in an over-under scenario. We had just gone a long time without a battle, so maybe the football gods simply willed this one for us...