On Rivalry Weekend, UConn and BC Continue to Hinder the Progress of College Football in New England

[uconndogs]

Ummm... Uconn football is dead.
An annual game against BC will never resurrect it. I can understand how the majority of the husky fans believe it will some how legitimize them so a P 5 league will want to pick them up. However, that is only a delusional dream. There is an obvious agreement Amoungst the P5 leagues that Sueconn is not welcome.

Well.....there you have it......60 grand a year and you can post genius like this.

 

[APA]

BC a "National School"?? Please, BC is a small, private, jesuit school. It's a good school, but there are a lot of good schools in New England. BC is more similar with Kenyon College than it is with Notre Dame.

This is simply a stupid post.

 

[JimHSR]

I keep hearing people reference "championships in multiple sports". Just to be clear, you are referring to mens basketball and womens bball/field hockey ? Is that really what its all about, womens bball and field hockey championships ? I guess enjoy that if its what makes y'all happy.

I was also confused about an earlier post. "Throughout their Big East History, the REAL rivalry was ALWAYS Syracuse. BC was more of a guaranteed win perception. UConn & Syracuse played more meaningful games than UConn & the Jesuits ever did. In football, UConn has actually beaten the Cuse, both home & away." Maybe Im reading this wrong, but is this person trying to say that BC was perceived by uconn as a "guaranteed win". Its just confusing because, of course as we all know, uconn has never beat boston college. Also, it seems once again, some posters are forgetting that there was football before 2002, because to argue that uconn and syracuse played more "meaningful games" than BC-Cuse is ridiculous.

 

[Yawkey Way]

BC a "National . BC is more similar with Kenyon College than it is with Notre Dame.

Speaking of ND, USC blew out ND today ( the same USC that BC blew out earlier this season ).
I don't know much about Kenyon College at all,, so I 'll defer to what you're saying regarding Kenyon College.

 

[CTBballfan243]

Please, comparing BC and Notre Dame athletically is comical. Again, ND, actually wins national championships. BC just doesn't do that. As one of the previous BC poster stated, hockey championships are meaningless.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Please, comparing BC and Notre Dame athletically is comical. Again, ND, actually wins national championships. BC just doesn't do that. As one of the previous BC poster stated, hockey championships are meaningless.

Wait until UCONN starts winning Hockey East championships and competing for national titles.

The priests will be out for blood.

 

[Yawkey Way]

Please, comparing BC and Notre Dame athletically is comical. Again, ND, actually wins national championships. BC just doesn't do that. As one of the previous BC poster stated, hockey championships are meaningless.

I didn't compare BC's national Championships in football (just 1 ) with ND's many National Championships in football at all. Where did you see that ? I never said that at all.. Thats what is perhaps " comical ". I only compared the ND game of today with USC this season and BC's game with USC this season, no more no less. I never even mentioned Hockey as important ( only as a sidebar to its unimportance in that even BC voted " yes " when Uconn Hockey came up to a possible Hockey East invite ) I did mention earlier that BC alums would like ND to be their rival, but that won't work as ND doesn't see BC as its football rival at all. Plus, BC does not play ND each year... but it will play Syracuse each year, so Syracuse and BC will meet up in the last regular season game each year.. a league game... and will probably become BC's future rival. In order for a football " rivalry " to work, both fan bases must see it as such. It can't be one sided. ND looks upon BC the same way BC looks upon Uconn. ( although the BC- ND games won loss record between the two being almost even the last dozen or so times they've played.. and most of the games usually coming down to the wire ). But ND certainly has the history, championships, etc.. of course...' goes without saying ) USC or Michigan is ND's football Rival. BC's rival is probably going to be Syracuse. Uconn will have to find one. If Umass gets untracked in football ( highly speculative.. perhaps even a long shot ) then Umass and Uconn seem like a good future football " rivalry " as they both are similar New England State Universities in that they still attract large percentages of in- state New England students to their schools, and have large segments of their grads that live and work in Connecticut and Massachusetts respectively. If only Umass football could get untracked, they'd be a great fit for Uconn for a New England College Football Rivalry. But thats a long shot it appears right now.

 

[ZooCougar]

I think I would rather play Rutgers.

 

[FartMan69]

Man BC fans are sensitive. Go cash FSU's earnings and crawl back in your basement.

 

[Yawkey Way]

Man BC fans are sensitive. Go cash FSU's earnings and crawl back in your basement.

haha,... actually I think I'm pretty thick skinned, and not overly sensitive to barbs or even the occasional comments that seem to me to make little to no sense at all... If one is " overly sensitive ", I suppose reading and making comments on a college football message board probably isn't going to keep such a person happy with what is said most of the time. But I assure you, I'm not overly sensitive to what is said on college football discussion boards. At least I don't believe so anyway. I hope posters here arn't too overly sensitive to my remarks on this thread either. My intent is not to inflame, nor insult.. and don't believe any of my comments so far have been in that realm, anyway,. But I'm open to discussion about my remarks if they at all seem mean spirited, insulting, crude,profane, demeaning,openly hostile, ridiculing, or whatever.

 

[CTBballfan243]

Actually, BC fans tend to be really thin skinned. Looked at their fan web site Fecal Action, if you don't drink the BC kool-aide they ban you from the site. I have never seen a group of people think so highly of themselves. BC pat themselves on the back quite often but never actually win at anything.

 

[Yawkey Way]

Actually, BC fans tend to be really thin skinned. Looked at their fan web site Fecal Action, if you don't drink the BC kool-aide they ban you from the site. I have never seen a group of people think so highly of themselves. BC pat themselves on the back quite often but never actually win at anything.

ND fans I've met tend to think they are God's gift to College Football. They are far more arrogant and tend to " think highly of themselves " more than any other group of BE and ACC fans I have personally met at games and at gatherings, at offices, airports, etc.. And I've been to a lot of away and homes games over the years., and have traveled a lot on business. I don't see BC fans as hostile, arrogant, or think highly of themselves, as much as several other schools around the Country I've met in my travels. But if you have encountered lots of arrogant BC fans when you meet up with them face to face at games, or at the office, or worksite, then thats your personal experience with them, and that is certainly not to be discounted by anyone... including me. Everyone's life experiences are of course not the same, so far be it for me to discount your personal life's experiences with the BC fans, alums you have come in contact with in your lifetime.

 

[coachcap]

I keep hearing people reference "championships in multiple sports". Just to be clear, you are referring to mens basketball and womens bball/field hockey ? Is that really what its all about, womens bball and field hockey championships ? I guess enjoy that if its what makes y'all happy.

I was also confused about an earlier post. "Throughout their Big East History, the REAL rivalry was ALWAYS Syracuse. BC was more of a guaranteed win perception. UConn & Syracuse played more meaningful games than UConn & the Jesuits ever did. In football, UConn has actually beaten the Cuse, both home & away." Maybe Im reading this wrong, but is this person trying to say that BC was perceived by uconn as a "guaranteed win". Its just confusing because, of course as we all know, uconn has never beat boston college. Also, it seems once again, some posters are forgetting that there was football before 2002, because to argue that uconn and syracuse played more "meaningful games" than BC-Cuse is ridiculous.

You are not confused, you are just ignoring basketball Big East history. Of COURSE UConn has never beaten BC in football. They have only played a few times in their history. But the Big East's best rivalries across sports included UConn-Syracuse, NOT UConn-BC. So to answer the original question of potential football rivalries, UConn-Syracuse makes MUCH more sense than UConn-BC. You knew that but you are still stinging from UConn's Hockey East home opener of 2 weeks ago & nursing your bruised ego of the irony of a Hockey East neophyte beating BC in the only sport that it is relevant in.

 

[uconndogs]

What a minute Coach, are you accusing someone from BC of being intellectually dishonest? Really?

 

[uconndogs]

haha,... actually I think I'm pretty thick skinned, and not overly sensitive to barbs or even the occasional comments that seem to me to make little to no sense at all... If one is " overly sensitive ", I suppose reading and making comments on a college football message board probably isn't going to keep such a person happy with what is said most of the time. But I assure you, I'm not overly sensitive to what is said on college football discussion boards. At least I don't believe so anyway. I hope posters here arn't too overly sensitive to my remarks on this thread either. My intent is not to inflame, nor insult.. and don't believe any of my comments so far have been in that realm, anyway,. But I'm open to discussion about my remarks if they at all seem mean spirited, insulting, crude,profane, demeaning,openly hostile, ridiculing, or whatever.

If you think you are coming across as "thick skinned" by repeatedly posting on this board I don't know what to tell you.

Delusional and unaware come to mind......

 

[pj]

UConn basketball played BC basketball just last year. It's football's turn. UConn wants an all-sports rivalry with BC. It has to include football.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Uconn will have to find one. If Umass gets untracked in football ( highly speculative.. perhaps even a long shot ) then Umass and Uconn seem like a good future football " rivalry " as they both are similar New England State Universities in that they still attract large percentages of in- state New England students to their schools, and have large segments of their grads that live and work in Connecticut and Massachusetts respectively. If only Umass football could get untracked, they'd be a great fit for Uconn for a New England College Football Rivalry. But thats a long shot it appears right now.

I have nothing against UMass; but, raising the bar to get them to the level of UConn in sports (and academics) is simply not going to happen in the foreseeable future. UMass has bigger issues revolving around the folks with the purse strings on Beacon Hill can barely remember that UMass Amherst is even in Massachusetts. It's issues are UMass Lowell and UMass Boston. Martin Marty Meehan, a well connected former politician, has overseen a massive campus expansion in Lowell that has seen the school focus on bio-tech, add dorms, and jump the schools athletic programs up to D-1AA or whatever that is called now. UMass Boston, which has historically been a commuter campus, is targeted for 5,000 residences should Boston be selected as the 2024 Summer Olympic host as the athlete's village will be located there. Both moves would continue to drain dollars from UMass Amherst in a state where state universities are an after-thought to most families.

 

[uconndogs]

What top New England basketball schools are the Huskies playing this season? The answer is none. There is no BC, PC, UMass, URI, or even Harvard on the schedule

BC isn't even a top tier basketball school on Commonwealth Avenue.

"even Harvard"....... are you kidding me?.....do you even follow BC basketball?

 

[Yawkey Way]

the Big East's best rivalries across sports included UConn-Syracuse, NOT UConn-BC. So to answer the original question of potential football rivalries, UConn-Syracuse makes MUCH more sense than UConn-BC. .[/QUOTE]

Well, if true, then why do you suppose so many of your fellow Uconn football fans are in such a clamor to play BC in football as their preferred football rival, instead of attempting to make Syracuse their rival in football ? ( ..and thus, presumably would disagree with you then on this. ) Just asking, thats all.

 

[pj]

Well, if true, then why do you suppose so many of your fellow Uconn football fans are in such a clamor to play BC in football as their preferred football rival, instead of attempting to make Syracuse their rival in football ? ( ..and thus, presumably would disagree with you then on this. ) Just asking, thats all.

BC-UConn would be a far better rivalry than Cuse-UConn. Syracuse was a rival only in basketball and was our top basketball rival for only a few years, UConn-Georgetown and UConn-St John's earlier and UConn-Pitt and UConn-Louisville later were about as good.

Unfortunately BC left the Big East as UConn football was joining; BC basketball was never competitive; and UConn hockey was a level down; so the rivalry never had a chance to develop. It's a natural though.

 

[Yawkey Way]

BC basketball was never competitive; .

But this would be as wrong headed as saying " Uconn football has never been competitive with BC football ". Of course, BC has been competitive in Basketball at various stages in both the BE and the ACC. BC has won BE basketball regular season and BE Basketball Tournament Titles , and has won ACC Atlantic Division Basketball Titles and gone to the ACC Tournament Title Game ( 2006 ) losing to Duke at the buzzer 78-76.
Its also true that BC's national Basketball history does not compare favorably at all with Uconn's Basketball history ( neither does Uconn's national football history compare favorably at all with BC's national football history it goes without saying too, of course ). Its just simply misleading to state that " BC Basketball was never competitive". Of course its " been competitive " at various stages of its play in the past. BC has beaten Uconn in Basketball lots of times, despite Uconn being primarily a College Basketball School, and have become over the decades the dominent college Basketball program in both Men and Woman's Basketball not only in all of New England, but in the US as well.

 

[JimHSR]

Wait until UCONN starts winning Hockey East championships and competing for national titles.

The priests will be out for blood.

uconn has played half a season in this league. Lets pump the breaks here, oh wait, and theyre below BC (arguably one of the worst BC teams in last 25 years) in the HE standings as of today? Ill wait on those championships tho.

And once again, for those that want to say that national championships in hockey mean nothing, the womens bball titles you all like to talk about mean less. The sooner you all realize that there is one, and only one sport that means anything (a sport in which uconn is hands down one of the worst in the country), the easier it will be to realize how LUCKY you are to be a bottom feeder in the AAC.

This made up rivalry stuff should just be buried. Its never going to happen. BC has its fb rival (in conference, 2 most northern teams, comparable recruiting bases, etc). Uconn has their rival (SMU in the battle for the AAC basement). Just enjoy it and move one

 

[Antiobserver]

In am ideal world UCONN would play both Syracuse and BC in the same season. Unfortunately, BC is afraid of the competition in the region and Syracuse doesn't have much hate for Husky football as the Orangemen already had 'bigger' rivalries with Penn State and West Virginia.

 

[Yawkey Way]

In am ideal world UCONN would play both Syracuse and BC in the same season. Unfortunately, BC is afraid of the competition in the region and Syracuse doesn't have much hate for Husky football as the Orangemen already had 'bigger' rivalries with Penn State and West Virginia.

You are just kidding yourself that moving forward that Syracuse football fans consider West Virginia a future " football rival " This is 2014, and about to be 2015. Syracuse football fans think of West Virgina football these days about as much as it thinks of Major Harris these days. Even Penn State is no longer on their radar screen frankly anymore as a " football rival". Also, as mentioned earlier no game can become an annual rivalry game unless both fan bases and both schools see it as such. BC in this respect considers the only other Catholic Univ. playing FBS Major College Football as its chief" rival "( ND ). But as mentioned earlier, its not a " Football Rivalry" in the most apt definition of the term as ND does not consider it so., plus they don't play every year .So its not, and will probably never become one. BC will likewise never become Uconn's " rival " in football, even if the two schools agree in the future to play a game every so often. Its just the way it is.

 

[pj]

You are just kidding yourself that moving forward that Syracuse football fans consider West Virginia a future " football rival " This is 2014, and about to be 2015. Syracuse football fans think of West Virgina football these days about as much as it thinks of Major Harris these days. Even Penn State is no longer on their radar screen frankly anymore as a " football rival". Also, as mentioned earlier no game can become an annual rivalry game unless both fan bases and both schools see it as such. BC in this respect considers the only other Catholic Univ. playing FBS Major College Football as its chief" rival "( ND ). But as mentioned earlier, its not a " Football Rivalry" in the most apt definition of the term as ND does not consider it so., plus they don't play every year .So its not, and will probably never become one. BC will likewise never become Uconn's " rival " in football, even if the two schools agree in the future to play a game every so often. Its just the way it is.

Agreed up to the last line. If BC played UConn every year, lost half the games, and was fighting UConn for New England recruits year in and year out, it would become a rivalry quickly. As you say, Notre Dame doesn't reciprocate, so even if BC fans had the most passion for Notre Dame, UConn would become a close second.

 

[Yawkey Way]

Agreed up to the last line. If BC played UConn every year, lost half the games, and was fighting UConn for New England recruits year in and year out, it would become a rivalry quickly. As you say, Notre Dame doesn't reciprocate, so even if BC fans had the most passion for Notre Dame, UConn would become a close second.

If Uconn was in the ACC, and both BC and UConn played each other in the Atlantic Division of the ACC each season, this might have the effect of replacing Syracuse as BC's future " annual football rival ", in my opinion. But you are spot on in your analysis, ie, not only would Uconn have to play BC every year( either in or out of the ACC ), but they would have to win 3 or 4 games before it would become a " rival " game for most BC football fans and Alums... especially the BC Alums post 1995 or so, as the majority of today's students that attend and graduate BC these days are from outside of New England altogether, as was mentioned above.