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With our depleted roster there's really no threat over losing any playing time. Wonder how much that factors into the motivation of some players. If we are in agreement that we need to keep Ollie then I think its imperative we give some strong consideration to finding someone other than Glenn Miller to be his associate HC. Someone outside the UConn system with a fresh set of eyes. We need to shake something up.
 
Appreciate your effort UCDan, it's just not worth it. There are too many spoiled rotten fans who just don't get it. These things happen, they can't sit back and allow the season to be exactly what it is and what we knew it would be when they left Maui. Keep fighting the fight if you want but most of these people aren't worth it. You and I see Vance getting better because he's playing more than he would have if everyone was healthy. Vital showing some signs of game, tough defensively and getting better on both ends needs to finish though. Adams is learning how to be a PG without having many options do be great, still fighting playing 40. Steve showing physical play as well as some low post game, but they will say he blows. People see what they want to see, if they are eternally pessimistic then this is not the year for them wish they would leave but they will always be here, especially noticeable after a game like this in which their spew is at their finest.

Keep at it but it will drain you my friend!! LOL

Mau,

What have you seen over the past 2 1/2 seasons that causes you to be optimistic? I see one tournament win in 3 seasons, low basketball iq, and losing to teams that used to be resume builders come March. I honestly dont think the critics (including me) are being unfair. This season is a dumpster fire in large part due to injuries. However, losses to Wagner and Northeastern came with a nearly full roster and this team falls behind by double digits early in too many games.
 
I love how you can't be worried about the 3 mediocre seasons we've just endured and the perception of our program without being blasted for "hating on Ollie".. You realize you can be worried without calling for Ollie's head, right?
 
I love how you can't be worried about the 3 mediocre seasons we've just endured and the perception of our program without being blasted for "hating on Ollie".. You realize you can be worried without calling for Ollie's head, right?
A thousand times this.

I feel like a broken record saying this, but

1) on the one hand, there are valid reasons for why UConn has underachieved each of the past three seasons, particularly when you look at each season in a vacuum;
2) on the other hand, UConn has underachieved preseason expectations for three years running, and his apologists continue to ignore some legitimate, negative patterns.

I don't think Ollie is (or should be) anywhere near the hot seat. But assuming Jalen returns next year, it'll mark the first time since 2013-14 there has been real continuity among key players.

We should still be tempering expectations considering the youth and question marks, but if we don't see real progress next year, I think it's fair to be concerned.
 
Funny how you're not gonna defend that Izzo comment anymore, now that you rememberwho they also lost to.

Here's the point I'm making that some are losing out on. Did Tom Izzo, a hall of fame coach with an exceptional record, get dumb all of a sudden? Or could it be that some years you don't have the pieces that you need to accomplish what you want to? Did Calhoun never go to the NIT? That's rhetorical, so don't answer it.

We lost our starting point guard, or leading scorer, we are incorporating 4 kids into getting major minutes at the college level who have never done it, and we are asking role players to become target players despite all evidence to the contrary that they can do it. And we're doing all of that while changing our core defensive style because we don't have enough warm bodies to play man to man.

Did Ollie forget basketball this year along with Izzo? Or could it just be that this year is spiraling into the toilet and that's leading to a morale-busting situation for the players. Should Ollie expect to get so little production from Adams, Purvis, and Brimah put together like last night?

So this is what I'm choosing to focus on; Vance is getting much better, Vital is getting better in spurts, Enoch was improving before the injury, Facey is SO much better than he has ever been, Durham is showing some nice things around the rim, and Jalen on most nights seems to be developing into a star leader. In this crap fest of a year, I'll at least take that development as a positive sign that next year with the addition of Larrier, Gilbert, and company, that we'll be in much much better shape...
There's nothing to defend re: Tom Izzo. He's 5x the coach that KO is. Maybe someday, if Ollie puts together the career that Izzo has, you can hunt me down and get me to admit that Tom Izzo wouldn't have this year's UConn team in better form. Until then, we can agree to disagree as we'll never know what any other coach could have done with the current situation. But I e seen other programs adjust to unexpected early departures and even mid season injuries (in better leagues) with more success and ingenuity than what I'm seeing this year. And while I'm seeing the development of the players, I'm not necessarily seeing it (for more than this season) fromour head coach. So all of tHat doesn't equate (for me) to feeling like the program is in good shape. Frankly, I've felt this way for the last two seasons. And while the 2014 run was magical, that regular season was still a long way away from being the type of year that we had become accustomed to. So call me spoiled. Blue Blood/Elite programs get spoiled. It's sorta like the #1 perk of being elite. I can handle a down year or two without running off a ledge. Frankly, I feel like I did the last two seasons. And I know that this year had some incredibly bad luck.

But...you didn't respond to my SMU scenario. Why are they so much better than us after what they've gone thru due to graduations, unexpected departures and sanctions? How about what Arizona has done this year with injuries and suspensions? You don't think Sean Miller is doing better than Kevin Ollie?

And one last criticism of KO for you to chew on and ignore...who's fault is it that we were so reliant on an incoming freshman (albeit an All American) that his injury has virtually rendered our backcourt unserviceable due to having only one real ball handler (despite knowing what Purvis is/isn't and STILL having open scholarships)? God help the Ollie defenders if Jalen Adams leaves for the draft. What will the excuses be then?

PS - I think most of us would kill for an NIT slot. How sad is that?
 
No serious person would compare Izzo and Ollie. That's insane and unfair to a coach who's only been at the helm for 5 years.
 
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I believe Ollie will indeed be under pressure to put up next year. Fact is that there is a new boss in town who has zero connection to Ollie and Calhoun so is much more likely to judge on results than either sentiment or to protect his own legacy. AD Dave is going to look at results, attendance and if both are not significantly on the uptick he won't feel obligated to stand pat.
 
And one last criticism of KO for you to chew on and ignore...who's fault is it that we were so reliant on an incoming freshman (albeit an All American) that his injury has virtually rendered our backcourt unserviceable due to having only one real ball handler (despite knowing what Purvis is/isn't and STILL having open scholarships)?

Well, seeing as Larrier and DHam as non-freshmen were supposed to be in the starting rotation this year when Ollie was looking at it a year ago, I guess the blame goes to God? Fate? Sheer dumb luck? Whomever you choose to assign that to.

Even with Larrier going down and DHam moving on, we were still going to have a McDonalds All-American point guard, and he went down too. We were going to have a strong rebounding presence in Diarra, and he went down too. And sophomore Enoch now has a foot injury.

You can spew all the nonsense you want to about "who's fault it is" that this is the situation, but this is clearly a once-in-a-century situation whereby half the team you thought you would have is no longer available.

And by the way, nobody on this board except for you is rooting for the NIT. Don't kid yourself. We are all waiting to see if the pieces we have left can come together enough to win the AAC tourney and leave a good taste in our mouths for this busted year...
 
Why was Hamilton "supposed to be in the starting lineup?" There is no "supposed to be" at this level for your best player. Any coach who is building a team without considering that their best player may go pro (ready or not), is naive and in over his head. I'm not saying that DHam should have gone or that his decision in the spring was anticipated before last season started, but welcome to high major college hoops. It's not a valid excuse for not adjusting or not building a contingency. And it still doesn't completely answer the question about why we have open scholarships and not enough ball handlers. We took some shortcuts with Gibbs and Miller last year and it got us a 6th place finish and a win over mighty #9 seed Colorado and now we're left with this. Again, did Hamilton's departure sting? Of course. But most top programs have to adjust to that nearly annually.

Go ahead, blame karma, the gods, a once in a century situation. Thats your prerogative and I sincerely hope you are right (and just so you know, I'm not trying - at all- to change your mind). I'd be thrilled if we look back on this year and see the error of my ways. As for the NIT, again that's your opinion though I'm sure the rest of Husky Nation appreciates you speaking on their behalf. I for one, would (today) happily take a season this year in which we finish a few games above .500 with an NIT berth and some well-earned optimism for next year instead of the pipe dream that we can can string together 3 or more likely 4 wins in the AAC tournament. For someone who has already written all of the excuses as to why we aren't good this year, I'd have thought you would be pleased with significant improvement from this point forward (and getting to an above .500 record would be just that). And you keep making this about a couple of obviously unforeseen injuries and this season. My perspective is a three year one (maybe closer to four if you look closely at the 2013-14 regular season) and my own fearful projection of next year (especially if Adams leaves).
 
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My issue, and probably everyone's, is that you shouldn't be able to cite legitimate points if your first point is "by next year we should be looking at our options" which is (by memory) what the original post said.

If we have another terrible year next year, that MAY be the case. The poster made it seem like right now, that will be the case. That indicates he thinks Ollie should already be replaced or seriously thought about.

I think everyone's concerns are legitimate and founded. But "concerns" are different than this and some other posters' tones on Ollie's status.

With our potential roster next year, I think he's going in with high expectations and only would be considered on the hot seat with another poor year. The poster and others make it like he's already there and a great year COULD SAVE HIM.

I just dont think that's accurate nor should it be.

Give me a roster that isn't reliant on Purvis and we'll see what happens.
 
once brimah and purvis are gone this team will be better. they have eaten up time and spots from players on the team and recruits thinking about coming here. their IQs are not that high and purvis' lack of hustle to help bring the ball up and on other aspects of the game kills adams and others. we are a talented big man and a shooter away from rolling... we are a young team and will be nex year. This needs team needs veteran leadership and senior bball IQ none that purvis and brimah show... Ollie is trying his best to get the team going and you see more hustle and IQ from our freshmen and sophomores than purvis. They showed it yesterday regardless of the score especially vance and facey... This year sucks but I'm not bailing on Ollie, not for awhile
 
My issue, and probably everyone's, is that you shouldn't be able to cite legitimate points if your first point is "by next year we should be looking at our options" which is (by memory) what the original post said.

If we have another terrible year next year, that MAY be the case. The poster made it seem like right now, that will be the case. That indicates he thinks Ollie should already be replaced or seriously thought about.

I think everyone's concerns are legitimate and founded. But "concerns" are different than this and some other posters' tones on Ollie's status.

With our potential roster next year, I think he's going in with high expectations and only would be considered on the hot seat with another poor year. The poster and others make it like he's already there and a great year COULD SAVE HIM.

I just dont think that's accurate nor should it be.

Give me a roster that isn't reliant on Purvis and we'll see what happens.
we need big men and i believe when ollie first recruited, facey and brimah were reaches due to being new and the incoming circumstances. he has shown to get great guards and wings, we need bigs now
 
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Funny how you're not gonna defend that Izzo comment anymore, now that you rememberwho they also lost to.

Here's the point I'm making that some are losing out on. Did Tom Izzo, a hall of fame coach with an exceptional record, get dumb all of a sudden? Or could it be that some years you don't have the pieces that you need to accomplish what you want to? Did Calhoun never go to the NIT? That's rhetorical, so don't answer it.

We lost our starting point guard, or leading scorer, we are incorporating 4 kids into getting major minutes at the college level who have never done it, and we are asking role players to become target players despite all evidence to the contrary that they can do it. And we're doing all of that while changing our core defensive style because we don't have enough warm bodies to play man to man.

Did Ollie forget basketball this year along with Izzo? Or could it just be that this year is spiraling into the toilet and that's leading to a morale-busting situation for the players. Should Ollie expect to get so little production from Adams, Purvis, and Brimah put together like last night?

So this is what I'm choosing to focus on; Vance is getting much better, Vital is getting better in spurts, Enoch was improving before the injury, Facey is SO much better than he has ever been, Durham is showing some nice things around the rim, and Jalen on most nights seems to be developing into a star leader. In this crap fest of a year, I'll at least take that development as a positive sign that next year with the addition of Larrier, Gilbert, and company, that we'll be in much much better shape...

Michigan State 12–7 vs. Uconn 7-11. Both have struggled, but to compare Michigan State woes as equivalent to ours isn't your best argument. We all want the same thing which is sustained success for our program, but let's make sure were being honest with ourselves.
 
Reading this thread, it's astonishing how many people set the baseline expectation of Ollie being a direct continuation of the greatest coach in the sport's history. And you lecture the "pollyannas/apologists" about having whacked expectations?
 
Reading this thread, it's astonishing how many people set the baseline expectation of Ollie being a direct continuation of the greatest coach in the sport's history. And you lecture the "pollyannas/apologists" about having whacked expectations?
Not the case at all. But here is the expectation: Have a team that is a perennial team to beat in the conference and at least a borderline top 25 most years with some top 15 finishes. And to be a regular NCAA participant without having to rely on miracle finishes in conference tournaments. Be a potential Gonzaga or at least Cincinnati.
 
Re: player development and Facey
You have to remember that last year Hamilton and Miller took up a lot of his potential minutes. He might have given us this years' production last year, and been even further along this year. Yes, that wouldn't have made us better last year, but it's a factor.
 
Reading this thread, it's astonishing how many people set the baseline expectation of Ollie being a direct continuation of the greatest coach in the sport's history. And you lecture the "pollyannas/apologists" about having whacked expectations?

WE ARE 7-11 OVERALL and 2-4 and IN SEVENTH PLACE IN THE AAC.

Our finishes in the American under KO: 3rd, 6th, 6th, currently 7th. In this crap conference. That is pathetic. A disgrace to our programs history and JCs legacy.

Were those our expectations for JC??? Tell me how it is unrealistic to expect better than that???

Please get in touch with reality.
 
WE ARE 7-11 OVERALL and 2-4 and IN SEVENTH PLACE IN THE AAC.

Our finishes in the American under KO: 3rd, 6th, 6th, currently 7th. In this crap conference. That is pathetic. A disgrace to our programs history and JCs legacy.

Were those our expectations for JC??? Tell me how it is unrealistic to expect better than that???

Please get in touch with reality.
I guess you don't remember how scathing people were towards JC even after number two during down times.

I'm surprised no one is discussing the season Syracuse is having. It could be a coincidence but it also might be relevant that NCAA sanctions have immediate and long term consequences. If this is apologizing so be it.

Disgrace to our programs history and JC's legacy is a bit too melodramatic for my taste. Wooden didn't suffer in spite of UCLA's struggles following his departure. And KO added to the legacy with #4 which will always have far greater historical significance for JC's legacy than even the demise of this program completely. In fact a total demise would only embellish the significance of JC.

Worst case scenario is a core group of fans remain similar to the football posters. I can live with that.
 
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Ollie did an amazing job his first 2 seasons, no other way to describe it. But 2015 and 2016 we under performed. There is no reason that the 2015 team with Boatright, Dham, Purvis, ect should have won only 17 regular season games and get embarrassed at home in the NIT in round 1.

2016 we developed into a good team come March which is what you want, but Nov-Feb was so average it killed our seed and a chance to do damage in the tournament.

This year is a throw away for me, with these injuries and with what Purvis is doing out there I am blacking this year out.

He is nowhere near on the hot seat, but the performance on the court has to improve the next couple of years.
Boat didn't play in the NIT and he was half of the team.
 
I guess you don't remember how scathing people were towards JC even after number two during down times

Apples and oranges. In Calhoun's 8 seasons after '04 we had 6 tournament appearances, 5 top 4 seeds, 3 Final 8s, 2 Final Fours, 3 League championships, and a National Championship. All in what many considered the best conference in the country during that span. Anyone who bitched and moaned during that run looked pretty foolish, at most, 12 months later. Many of us are looking at the body of work and seeing a very stark and concerning difference in a MUCH weaker league.
 
He's got 7 scholarship players to use right now. 7. I wish I knew what the hell it is that people think Tom Izzo could do with this team?? Or Coach K? Or Calipari? Or you fill in the blank with whomever you want.

Are the underclassmen getting better? YES. undeniably yes.
Players like Facey and Adams getting better? By leaps and bounds.
And all of this under the very worst of conditions with no bench. He's mixing zones to mask it, and he has a 7 foot center who can't stay on the court for more than 5 minutes a game.

Honestly, what the hell do you want him to do?!?

Put out an SOS to all students. There has to be someone on campus who can shoot and dribble a ball.
 
I guess you don't remember how scathing people were towards JC even after number two during down times.

I'm surprised no one is discussing the season Syracuse is having. It could be a coincidence but it also might be relevant that NCAA sanctions have immediate and long term consequences. If this is apologizing so be it.

Disgrace to our programs history and JC's legacy is a bit too melodramatic for my taste. Wooden didn't suffer in spite of UCLA's struggles following his departure. And KO added to the legacy with #4 which will always have far greater historical significance for JC's legacy than even the demise of this program completely. In fact a total demise would only embellish the significance of JC.

Worst case scenario is a core group of fans remain similar to the football posters. I can live with that.

I wasn't saying this tarnishes JC in any way. Of course it doesn't. I was responding to his repeated claims that posters are unrealistic when we expect better than the crap that we've seen this year (and often times the last few).

Some posters go overboard no doubt. The calls for KO to be fired are dumb (I don't agree with that). But at some point people need to start holding the coaches accountable for this mess.

SMU has a 2nd year coach. They don't get the same level of recruits as us. They have a 7 man rotation. And they have the same number of seniors as us. And they're 16-2.

This board has become insufferable lately. Posters repeatedly make fair critiques of KO and the state of the program only to get attacked and called fair weather fans etc. Its pathetic. And EVERY SINGLE TIME he (Stairmaster, and a small number of posters) berate said posters and say they have unrealistic expectations and are basically being idiots to expect better than this.

I just went over the fact that we've finished 6th, 6th, and are now 7th in the AAC. Are you ok with that? Do you think that is a fair level of expectation for KO and staff? How are we ever going to return to prominence if we are so accepting of failure?

You don't have call it a disgrace. Pick a different word. It doesn't change anything. I can not understand how longtime posters (not saying you specifically) can be so accepting of these repeated lazy, sloppy, disinterested, and downright horrendous performances. The SMU game isn't an outlier. It was under JC. That type of performance has been common the last 4 years, including 2014. It's sad.
 
Why was Hamilton "supposed to be in the starting lineup?" There is no "supposed to be" at this level for your best player. Any coach who is building a team without considering that their best player may go pro (ready or not), is naive and in over his head. I'm not saying that DHam should have gone or that his decision in the spring was anticipated before last season started, but welcome to high major college hoops. It's not a valid excuse for not adjusting or not building a contingency.

If it was anticipated that Hamilton was going to be around for another season, how easy do you think it would have been to recruit another elite small forward type for this year? And I say "another" because, ya know, he already did that with Terry Larrier.
 
Boat didn't play in the NIT and he was half of the team.
If it was anticipated that Hamilton was going to be around for another season, how easy do you think it would have been to recruit another elite small forward type for this year? And I say "another" because, ya know, he already did that with Terry Larrier.
I wasn't suggesting that we load up on small forwards. But even if Gilbert doesn't get hurt, we would have been very thin at the point. . A back up true point guard would sure be welcomed on this team as Adams is a combo at this level and Purvis can't operate at the point at all. Nor can Vital. Having a fifth guard would have been smart under any circumstances and realistically, Vital would have been that guy (who wouldn't have seen much time).
 
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Michigan State 12–7 vs. Uconn 7-11. Both have struggled, but to compare Michigan State woes as equivalent to ours isn't your best argument. We all want the same thing which is sustained success for our program, but let's make sure were being honest with ourselves.

You're right. It's not the best argument, because as I understand it, Michigan State is back to full health now. And they still lost to Northeastern at home with a Hall of Fame coach...
 
Look, some of you guys are fiercely loyal to KO and, partially, that is due to your respect for JC. I get it and it is admirable. But, seriously, the university and this program is bigger than one man. It is even bigger than the man who built the program. Calhoun was clearly a great coach but that doesn't mean he is great a picking a successor. It is similar to why great players don't always make great coaches. In fact, they rarely do.

As someone mentioned, we finished 6th in this conference the last two years and now we are looking at 7th. People can't use the "crappy" conference as an excuse for our inability to land the same players Duke and Kentucky can land (or Kansas and UNC for that matter...or even Arizona) but then say it is OK to finish 6th or 7th in that crappy conference...over and over again. And since when did 20 wins become the measuring stick? Context doesn't matter? I am sorry but 20 wins, given how many games we play against weak teams in and out of conference, is simply not good enough. When the dust settles, what matters is how well did we do in our conference and in the regular season and where are we ranked when all the games are done? The first part matters because it determines whether or not we make the tournament and what our seed will be. The second part matters because it is the final impression that our team left in the minds of the sports world and recruits.

2014/2015:
Finished 6th in the AAC. Missed the NCAAs. Finished 80th in the Sagarins with a final record of 20-15. That was behind other 20 win powerhouses like Georgia State, George Washington, Green Bay and Harvard.
2015/2016:
Finished 6th in the AAC. Round of 32 in the NCAAs. Finished 25th in the Sagarins with a final record of 25-11. Again, not a "bad" season but marginal enough that we didn't finished ranked by the AP or USA Today.
2016/2017:
Currently 7th in the AAC. Unlikely to make the NCAAs. Currently 93rd in the Sagarins with a record of 6-11 behind...oh, never mind.

We all know Calhoun had seasons worse than 2015/2016. But how bad did it get and for how long?

I am searching for the old Sagarin data but here are the final AP poll results in Calhoun's tenure:
1987 Unranked (Missed NCAAs)
1988 Unranked (Missed NCAAs, won NIT)
1989 Unranked (Missed NCAAs)
1990 3rd (Elite 8)
1991 Unranked (Sweet 16)
1992 Unranked (Round of 32)
1993 Unranked (Missed NCAAs)
1994 4th (Sweet 16)
1995 8th (Elite 8)
1996 3rd (Sweet 16)
1997 Unranked (Missed NCAAs)
1998 6th (Elite 8)
1999 3rd (National Champions)
2000 20th (Round of 32)
2001 Unranked (Missed NCAAs)
2002 10th (Elite 8)
2003 23rd (Sweet 16)
2004 7th (National Champions)
2005 13th (Round of 32)
2006 2nd (Elite 8)
2007 Unranked (Missed NCAAs)
2008 16th (One and done)
2009 5th (Final Four)
2010 Unranked (Missed NCAAs)
2011 9th (National Champions)
2012 Unranked (One and done)

Obviously we need to keep this in perspective. Calhoun came in with head coaching experience so he was probably further up the learning curve when he came to UConn. On the other hand, Calhoun built a great program from dust whereas Ollie was handed a...Ferrari. Hard to say which is harder. Start with nothing but start with experience or take over a great program with little experience. But one can see a few things from the Calhoun era. Even though he got off to a slow start, he never went 4 years straight without finishing ranked somewhere in the AP poll. And, after his third season, he never missed the NCAAs twice in a row.

Ollie is now in his 5th year. He has also never missed the NCAAs twice in a row. And he coached us to a national championship. Those are both great and have earned him some credibility and patience. But it looks like we will finish this year unranked for the third year in a row and we will miss the NCAAs. It looks like we will also finish in the middle of a crappy conference for the third year in a row. And he did win the championship with Calhoun's players. And the trend is in the wrong direction. Is that enough to justify being placed on the hot seat for next year? Some say yes. Some say no. But consider that, if we finish unranked again next year and we fail to make the NCAAs again next year, he will do two things that Calhoun never did, once the program was established. Finish unranked four straight years and miss the NCAAs in back-to-back years. Is justified to make a change, if that were to happen? Some say yes. some say no. For me, I don't think it is unreasonable to ask for a Top 25 finish and a trip to the NCAAs next year. No one is saying he needs to make it to the final four. But the sanctions will be firmly in the rear view mirror next year and everyone has been excited about the last three recruiting classes (including this year's) so it seems reasonable to expect the team to show significant life next year. So, for me, I am in favor of the hot seat for next year. Why? Because, to me, that means the administration is looking into options should next year be another bad to mediocre season. That seems prudent. It doesn't mean they HAVE to change the coach at the end of next year but that they are prepared to do something should it be a total disaster. If next year turns out to be mediocre, but similar to 2015/2016, maybe he gets yet another year to show a positive trend for two years running. I see two reasonable opinions on this but a lot of people being unreasonable in their respect for the opposite opinion.
 
Um...7 wins in three seasons. Unless of course you are talking about this season, which had yet to hold a tournament game. Cool story, bro...
I'm sure he means one win since the title run
 
Ollie has also gotten some bad luck with two of his better players in Daniels and Hamilton leaving early for the draft when they weren't ready. I don't remember that happening to Calhoun very often.
Come on, it's not like those guys were ray Allen or Rip Hamilton leaving, that's a weak response. Another season like the past, Benedict has to rethink KO..
 
Come on, it's not like those guys were ray Allen or Rip Hamilton leaving, that's a weak response. Another season like the past, Benedict has to rethink KO..
Hamilton as an upperclassman would probably be pretty damn good. Compare him to most of our sophomores. Few had a bigger role that early in their careers.
 
Hamilton as an upperclassman would probably be pretty damn good. Compare him to most of our sophomores. Few had a bigger role that early in their careers.
Doubt it, if that were the case he'd be playing in the NBA now instead of the D-League... decent talent, yes, but if he catches on in the NBA it will be a while... Not my favorite UCONN player, too much of a one on one guy... but good chat
 
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