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Unless we throw the ball into the back court we can't inbound from under our basket. Cost us huge today.
 
Lack of movement really hurts on inbound plays but in general i thought we've done ok during the game. In any case it was clear that boatright was open RJ just under threw the ball by quite a bit.
 
partial said:
Lack of movement really hurts on inbound plays but in general i thought we've done ok during the game. In any case it was clear that boatright was open RJ just under threw the ball by quite a bit.
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This!

The correct play was the long throw to Boatright, since he is your main ball handler and he went long to receive it. RJ either didn't see him or didn't get it to him. The fact that Palatine didn't recognize this and is blaming Ollie means that Palatine didn't recognize the right play either. But that is ALSO not Ollie's fault...
 
UConnDan97 said:
This!

The correct play was the long throw to Boatright, since he is your main ball handler and he went long to receive it.

Good call-Boatright was able to penetrate at will. Throw it 3/4 court, let him take the ball up comfortably and attack the hoop with 8 seconds left. Down 1, playing for the last shot with a guard they haven't stopped penetrating all day who was on fire from the FT line-I put our chance of winning the game in that scenario at 75%.
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Palatine said:
Unless we throw the ball into the back court we can't inbound from under our basket. Cost us huge today.
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Design a play and send to him because I doubt that Ollie can create an inbound play without your help.
 
aceboon said:
you bashing Ollie after a loss, how shocking.
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It's not bashing. It's a simple observation. We have had a problem inbounding the ball under our own basket all year.
 
UConnDan97 said:
This!

The correct play was the long throw to Boatright, since he is your main ball handler and he went long to receive it. RJ either didn't see him or didn't get it to him. The fact that Palatine didn't recognize this and is blaming Ollie means that Palatine didn't recognize the right play either. But that is ALSO not Ollie's fault...
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This is the same play we run over and over. And we have had trouble with it all year. It finally caught up with us.
 
Has nothing to do with Ollie, with an in-bound play, or anything else like that. It has everything to do with Evans. He is an incredible liability out there. How do you make a two handled pass to the elbow with a couple of defenders out there? Just a long baseball pass to Boat would have gotten the ball in. He can't score. He can't hit free throws, he has limited handle, he throws the ball away and dribbles into corners. After playing college ball of as long s he has, it's hard to believe he is as bad as he is.
 
Palatine said:
This is the same play we run over and over. And we have had trouble with it all year. It finally caught up with us.
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I'll say it again. It means you don't recognize what the right play was on that inbounds. Or you aren't willing to acknowledge it. In either case, your shortcomings aren't Ollie's fault....
 
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uconns inbounds 'play' has always been throw it all the way to the backcourt, except for the rare awesome oops to rudy or sticks
 
RJ pass was very weak. He was throwing it to PN . He was not throwing it long into the backcourt. Just a horrible pass. I would rather see the small forward take the ball out. Need more height.
 
It was a bad play on Evans part. He should not have been in that position. If Giffey didn't get hurt in the first half, he WOULDN'T have been inbounding the ball there. Not like Ollie had many choices left, being so shorthanded in this game.
 
msgordon said:
uconns inbounds 'play' has always been throw it all the way to the backcourt, except for the rare awesome oops to rudy or sticks
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I totally disagree. I have often commented that Calhoun had some awesome inbounds plays over the years. It really was one of his best coaching tips, getting the quick dunk off the inbounds pass.
 
Ollie is in his first year of coaching. He gets passes for all games this year, as far as I'm concerned. It comes with the title of 'rookie'. Hell he was in the discussion of BE Coach of the year even today.

Fault finding seems easy after a loss but had we won would this thread have started?

I saw so many positives today that negate any negatives or complaints for that matter. We lost at an away game, and Ollie gets blamed for a player throwing a bad pass. I guess if people look for the bad they will find it or make it up.
 
The only blame for Ollie on the inbounds is using Evans. Not Ollie's fault he made a terrible pass.

If your flustered call TO. No reason to make that pass, send boat all the way back and throw it deep into the back court if you have to.
 
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Palatine said:
It's not bashing. It's a simple observation. We have had a problem inbounding the ball under our own basket all year.
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We have had trouble inbounding the ball all year and i doubt that's on KO, they have a great staff and know JC's plays and so many others. People need to be more physical, forceful and fast and we need better passers inbounding the ball. RJ is not a good passer as it is I was scared to death seeing the ball in his hands!!
 
Palatine said:
It's not bashing. It's a simple observation. We have had a problem inbounding the ball under our own basket all year.
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Please bashing is not allowed on the Boneyard! The players and coaches are beyond criticism. You must understand
C'mon they're trying really, really hard!
This is the generation of "good try" and "laying it all out on the floor" when you lose and getting medals for coming in 8th place.
This is what we have come to.
 
I'm a UConn fan... everytime I see RJ Evans in the game, I think 2 things.... Turnover or blown layup or missed point blank shot. He made a 2 footer, but his pass was horrible. It was closer to 2 Cincy players than a UConn player. If he didn't have an open man, call a time out (since they still had 1 left). He's a 5th year Grad Student, but plays more like a nervous freshman...

Kudos to Nolan for playing his best game of the season!
 
geordi said:
Has nothing to do with Ollie, with an in-bound play, or anything else like that. It has everything to do with Evans. He is an incredible liability out there. How do you make a two handled pass to the elbow with a couple of defenders out there? Just a long baseball pass to Boat would have gotten the ball in. He can't score. He can't hit free throws, he has limited handle, he throws the ball away and dribbles into corners. After playing college ball of as long s he has, it's hard to believe he is as bad as he is.
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Amen....
 
msgordon said:
uconns inbounds 'play' has always been throw it all the way to the backcourt, except for the rare awesome oops to rudy or sticks
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this is simply not true

time and time and time and time again, especially in big spots Jimmy has run plays that lead to wide open shots

Ollie doesn't have the horses to execute these plays, our scorers are too short. Although DD is going to be a great wing next year, things will change
 
willie99 said:
this is simply not true

time and time and time and time again, especially in big spots Jimmy has run plays that lead to wide open shots

Ollie doesn't have the horses to execute these plays, our scorers are too short. Although DD is going to be a great wing next year, things will change
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I remember numerous times the announcers commending JC and his staff for setting up a bunny off the in bounds plays......not as much this year for sure!!
 
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OK im on record to replace Coach with Palatine. Imagine the great coaching minds he can choose from on this site for his assistants.
 
I have thought the same thing....we could do better getting the ball in bounds in various situations. Under our own basket is one, but also when we are inbounding against strong defensive pressure. RJ actually did well at getting open to catch the ball a couple of times, probably using his greater size and strength to force his way into an open spot. I has seemed our guys make one move and then just stop if they don't get open right away.
 
The ball was tipped and we were out of timeouts....and players....that said, I was definitely scratching my head when I saw RJ inbounding.
 
What helps with inbounds plays is being good around the rim. If you have a big to throw a quick lob to, or an athletic guard/wing good at finishing in traffic, you can get the defense collapsing and it opens everything else up. A guy like Drummond could set a screen and do a quick duck-in and bring two defenders with him, creating space behind him. Or Rip used to get open a lot because he could pop out for a jumper or flash to the basket, so there was a certain unpredictability when he started to make his cuts. And others could play off that (ie Free ducking to the basket while the defenders had one eye on Rip).

We don't have that, so the easiest way for us to get something off an inbounds is to do something unexpected, like have Napier act as a decoy and/or set a screen to free Giffey or Tyler up for a 15-footer. Nobody is going to allow Bazz to get open on a catch and shoot. When we did get DD open in the corner (and he didn't shoot), Napier screened for him and DD acted like he was going to go to the rim for a possible lob and flared to the corner. The down side to that in crunch time is we end up with the ball in the hands of players we might not want making the big plays.

Ollie has been in the NBA a long time where inbounds plays are a huge part of last-minute offense (timeouts allow you to advance the ball 70 feet). He knows plays, I'll guarantee that. What he needs are the pieces to make them work. Or if you want to be more critical of Ollie, he needs to be able to coach the players he has to be good enough to execute a small Percentage of that playbook. There's an element of truth to that. There's a difference between not getting layups and not getting the ball inbounds at all.
 
With Giff out, I hate to say it but TO is a decent passer and a solid 6 inches taller than RJ.
 
upstater said:
We have a totally undersized team--which impacts inbounds plays
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Getting open for inbound plays is a combination of movement, design and strength. As you pointed out, teams don't have a lot of trouble locking our guys down, which is easier to do when starting in close proximity from a standstill. With that said, it is one area that the team needs improvement. Inbound plays tend to be the last thing teams work on, and Ollie has had his hands full just to get this undermanned team to compete, which has been remarkable.

As for that last play, they had a lot of time on the clock and it might have been wise to have a taller guy inbound the ball in that situation and location on the court, plus tell that person, if the opening isn't there in the half-court toss it to the backcourt. It was a dreadful attempt and outcome, not to mention a costly one.

I love how this team never quits and competes till the end. With that said, it sure would have been nice to see them pull off Ws the past couple games. They've come up big during winning time most of this season. These past 2 and the Marquette games are a few that they couldn't close out. Imagine if they had. We'd be atop the Big East and ranked quite high. It's amazing what a bounce here or there can have team. I had hoped we'd win the BE regular season to get our unjust plight into the National spotlight, even though I wasn't expecting it. That's clearly out of reach now, but this team has exceeded my expectations. As bleak as the conference future looks, i think the future for our hoops programs is still strong, albeit challenging.
 
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