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Well if you told me this season we'd be in the tournament, having won our conference tournament and playing our best ball this season - i'd have been pretty happy with that.
 
David 76 said:
Disagree. Some fans are committed fans with loyalty. Others just want to be fans of winners.
Some see only negatives and respond with insults with their criticism, like a horrible parent/teacher/coach/etc. Others critique w/o trashing and also see the positives.
If you're a fan only when all is rosey, you're not a fan, you are a frontrunner
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There's an implicit question here: what does it mean to be a fan? In the simplest terms, there are two definitions:

A) Someone who wants the team to do well
B) Someone who thinks the team is doing or will do well

I don't think it's disloyal to both want the team to do well, but also point out its faults, what could be done better, or what may be troubling in the future.

A consistent problem on this board is the people who believe the "B" definition of fanhood think the "A" people aren't true fans, while the "A" group thinks the "B" people are pollyannas. Of course it's a continuum and there's nuance to consider, but that's the framework.
 
gtcam said:
What a bunch of crap statements
Bailed out? If KO feels bailed out I would lose a ton of respect in him
You are proud of these guys NOW!!!!!???????
What a DB
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Where does your lack of comprehension start? The point is a 1 in a million shot changed our season and overcame bad coaching. My opinion is a fluke shot does not erase all the bad coaching or.change the past.

Yes, proud of them now for pulling through in OT and putting 2 more solid wins together with actual scoring in the last 5 minutes of a game.
 
The board minus some posts has been fair. Based on results he knows it hasnt gone well at times but niw KO and the staff are in full tourney mode. This ain't their first rodeo and Coach Calhoun is in the bullpen. They will get the most out of this team that they can. There's no use worrying about it, we know these kids want it bad.
 
one missed 62 foot shot and its a different conversation...

ollie does know how to get them to play when it matters
 
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Fans who critique the team (or on other threads, criticize AB, SG, etc) don't have to get defensive if I say some of our fans are not the best. I probably don't mean you.
There are some people who have no frustration tolerance and act out their being aggravated in a gross fashion. And not just momentarily after a bad loss or too many drinks. My reaction is always to be glad I don't work with them and to feel sorry for their families.
Other fans are just "good-time Charlies" looking to jump on the bandwagon when all is going well and jumping off when it is not. I agree you are not very likely to see that type here.
 
Rocktheworld said:
I would be incredibly interested to figure out who here is a UConn alum and who isn't; then see the spread of those two populations across columns A and B.
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Dunno for sure, but I think you'd find the people who grew up in CT to be some of the most hardcore fans. Especially those that have been watching since the 80s.
 
huskyinfl said:
It's funny he is throwing shade at haters from a position of being bailed out by a miracle 3!

We are proud of these guys now though. Hope for more miracles.
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As it has turned out, I don't think Adam's shot had any effect, except possibly regarding seeding. I think we were already in, win or lose vs Cincy. Absolutely no disrespect to Adams...it was the shot of the entire college BB season, considering what we all thought was on the line at that moment, including most notably the team and coaching staff.
 
We should start a poll:

1) Did you grow up in CT?
2) Are you a UConn Alum?
3) Are you an a$$hat fan?
 
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The definition of a fair weather fan is that they stop supporting the team when times are tough. There are some on this board who were ready to turn on KO after the Maryland game. Their attacks on KO became even more vile after every lost. At times I feel like they where almost waiting for loses just to justify their criticism. It doesn't mean their not fans, it just means that they pull their full support when things go wrong. Maybe they don't want to get their heart broken. They are the same people that got off the band wagon in 11 when UCONN lost to Providence and also in 14 when they got lit up by Louisville. The ultimate UCONN fan is Kevin Ollie. He believed in his team when they had nothing to play for, continued to believe in his team even after blow out losses, and he continues to turn down opportunities to coach the greatest players in the world in the NBA so that he can coach the program that he continues to believe in. Fair weather fans don't deserve Kevin Ollie. They should just all go support Duke or Kentucky. That way they will only get their heart broken at the end of the year instead going thru the ups and downs of the team thru out the year. You're either on the wagon or you watching it go by. Go to Kentucky if you can't take the bad times, that way you can always look at your recruiting classes and smile. I'll take the lows that go along with the season because at Uconn they lead to national championships.
 
huskyinfl said:
Where does your lack of comprehension start? The point is a 1 in a million shot changed our season and overcame bad coaching. My opinion is a fluke shot does not erase all the bad coaching or.change the past.

Yes, proud of them now for pulling through in OT and putting 2 more solid wins together with actual scoring in the last 5 minutes of a game.
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Please be a little more specific regarding the bad coaching. I think Ollie and staff did a good coaching job this season. Think about having to meld the personalities of this roster into a team. I'm sure Miller, Gibbs and Adams were all alpha on their last team. Now add them to our roster and try to mold them into a cohesive unit. It takes time and that may be more important than the X's and O's. Please tell me more about his bad coaching.
 
UConnNick said:
As it has turned out, I don't think Adam's shot had any effect, except possibly regarding seeding. I think we were already in, win or lose vs Cincy. Absolutely no disrespect to Adams...it was the shot of the entire college BB season, considering what we all thought was on the line at that moment, including most notably the team and coaching staff.
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We were not getting in if Adams doesn't hit that 60+ footer.
 
David 76 said:
We should start a poll:

1) Did you grow up in CT?
2) Are you a UConn Alum?
3) Are you an a$$hat fan?
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Yes to all of the above. My earliest recollections of Husky hoops are from the early 1960's, when we beat Bill Bradley's Princeton team in the East Regional and then got clobbered by Puke, in a game when their coach Vic Bubas ran the score up against us deliberately. He was still pissed that Fred Shabel left his staff to coach at UCONN the year before. Jeff Mullins was their star player and I think he played 33 of the available 40 minutes, scoring over 30 points. They were ahead 62-27 at HT and won 101-54. It was the genesis of UCONN Nation's abject hatred of the Blue Devils, drop the blue.
 
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superjohn said:
We were not getting in if Adams doesn't hit that 60+ footer.
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Then explain how Tulsa is in, after getting creamed in the AAC tourney? They were already in no matter what happened in the AAC tourney. If they were, so were we, Cincinnati and Temple. The tourney may have had some effect on seeding for those four teams, but they were all already in. There's way too much stock put in what all the bracketologists indicate leading up to today. I think all the last four in, first four out stuff involving AAC teams was incorrect.
 
huskyinfl said:
It's funny he is throwing shade at haters from a position of being bailed out by a miracle 3!

We are proud of these guys now though. Hope for more miracles.
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Great point.

They are what they are. Very good defensive team. Good in transition, though don't tend to finish well. There were at least 4 layups they missed today. Shoot free throws lights out. Lack a winning-time scorer they've had the past decade (Kemba, Bazz or Boatright). Great shot blocker. Dreadful half court offense for long stretches. In other words, they are a mix bag that squandered another late lead to overcome that thanks to a freshman's three quarter court buzzer beater.

I must admit, the way they ended the regular season, I didn't expect them to string together 3 straight Ws. They struggle to close out games, which is dangerous this time of year. Props to them for getting it done and getting the automatic bid. Maybe they'll surprise us and continue their winning time success on the biggest stage.
 
I would hope that KO never visits the boneyard. This site is no different then the websites of other teams. There are die hard fans, fair weather fans, trolls, and everyone is allowed to have an opinion. The HC should be concerned only about his team. If the HC has a beef with a journalist that is ok but calling out the fans shows the skin is a little thin IMO.
 
QDOG5 said:
I would hope that KO never visits the boneyard. This site is no different then the websites of other teams. There are die hard fans, fair weather fans, trolls, and everyone is allowed to have an opinion. The HC should be concerned only about his team. If the HC has a beef with a journalist that is ok but calling out the fans shows the skin is a little thin IMO.
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Nah, calling out the fans just shows he's got fire. Calhoun did the same thing. Both these guys are loyal to the bone, and they expect the fans to be the same. I like it.
 
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KO is waiting with baited breath for every word from the Yard, right.
 
Uconn10922 said:
The definition of a fair weather fan is that they stop supporting the team when times are tough. There are some on this board who were ready to turn on KO after the Maryland game. Their attacks on KO became even more vile after every lost. At times I feel like they where almost waiting for loses just to justify their criticism. It doesn't mean their not fans, it just means that they pull their full support when things go wrong. Maybe they don't want to get their heart broken. They are the same people that got off the band wagon in 11 when UCONN lost to Providence and also in 14 when they got lit up by Louisville. The ultimate UCONN fan is Kevin Ollie. He believed in his team when they had nothing to play for, continued to believe in his team even after blow out losses, and he continues to turn down opportunities to coach the greatest players in the world in the NBA so that he can coach the program that he continues to believe in. Fair weather fans don't deserve Kevin Ollie. They should just all go support Duke or Kentucky. That way they will only get their heart broken at the end of the year instead going thru the ups and downs of the team thru out the year. You're either on the wagon or you watching it go by. Go to Kentucky if you can't take the bad times, that way you can always look at your recruiting classes and smile. I'll take the lows that go along with the season because at Uconn they lead to national championships.
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Please. Stop supporting the team means you stop caring and stop watching. Even when the team, or KO drives me freaking crazy I come here nearly every day and I watch every game. If I didn't care I wouldn't bother to be critical.

Criticism flows from passion, it means you care enough to want them to overcome mistakes and succeed. I guarantee you that Kevin Ollie is hard on his players and, privately, hard on himself for his mistakes. There is no reason to expect any UConn fan to be otherwise.
 
QDOG5 said:
I would hope that KO never visits the boneyard. This site is no different then the websites of other teams. There are die hard fans, fair weather fans, trolls, and everyone is allowed to have an opinion. The HC should be concerned only about his team. If the HC has a beef with a journalist that is ok but calling out the fans shows the skin is a little thin IMO.
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I don't agree. I want a coach who defends his players and staff. Most likely he was responding to fans who were booing the team at games. Or worse. The Boneyard is terrific but I doubt it gets much of a reaction from the coaching staff.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Please. Stop supporting the team means you stop caring and stop watching. Even when the team, or KO drives me freaking crazy I come here nearly every day and I watch every game. If I didn't care I wouldn't bother to be critical.

Criticism flows from passion, it means you care enough to want them to overcome mistakes and succeed. I guarantee you that Kevin Ollie is hard on his players and, privately, hard on himself for his mistakes. There is no reason to expect any UConn fan to be otherwise.
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Most of us look for an optimum performance in any endeavor. Why doesn't that apply to how we analyze games? Sucky attitude is sucky attitude whether on the court or in a forum.

I would wager the following correlation exists: people who most insist on changes in others are the most resistant to making changes in themselves.
 
Or maybe Ollie was responding to people who said his job was on the line or done.
I'm sure he was not responding to an internet website.

Passion doesn't justify everything. We need some ability to control our passion from being offensive. Otherwise, life becomes an insult fest and the next thing you know we will have presidential candidates that are nothing but...Oh. Nevermind.
 
fleudslipcon said:
Most of us look for an optimum performance in any endeavor. Why doesn't that apply to how we analyze games? Sucky attitude is sucky attitude whether on the court or in a forum.

I would wager the following correlation exists: people who most insist on changes in others are the most resistant to making changes in themselves.
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They are also the people who would lead to the dreaded coaching carousel. Imagine if our AD was like Jeffrey Lurie (Eagles Owner). You'd get the same results.
 
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