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Ollie 7-3

BFieldHusky said:
"Portion of the buyout" won't be enough. He is owed 10 million after the year. Unless that is fully covered he won't be let go.
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The rest will be covered by the school just like Diaco's was.
 
Providence torched us.
Michigan State torched us.
Arkansas torched us.
Syracuse torched us.
If that’s not enough we’re hanging on for dear life with nobodies.
So in 11 games we have 1 game to be proud of, and I should be happy with so called 7-3?
At this point just being competitive in the next 3 games would be like a victory.
 
BFieldHusky said:
No it won't. School can't afford to buy him out. And school didn't buy Diaco out. Booster did.
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That last part isn't actually true...
 
upstater said:
I hope they can somehow pull out 1 of the next 3, but that will require Alterique Gilbert.
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I know you mean well, but you realize what you are hoping for has never been a hope uttered in the last 25 years...talk about readjusted expectations. Don't settle.
 
If the hints people here have been dropping are at all valid, then this is as good as done. It has the look and the feel of a team that knows their coach is going to get fired. By the sound of it, that might come as a relief to all involved. I'm not sure his heart is in it and I'm not sure the players don't know that.

It doesn't mean he won't re-surface as a successful coach down the road, but what appears to be happening right now is unfortunate.
 
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shizzle787 said:
Did anyone have 3.5 mil to get rid of Diaco last year? I said we'd can him even with the buyout problem. We have a problem. Ollie sucks in a mid-major league. He's not sticking around. UConn will find out a way to pay him off.
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The timing couldn't be worse. Herbst has a major black hole in university finances to deal with. She will be hacking away at reputable and productive programs, essentially cutting off healthy limbs in order to save the torso (even though that makes no sense). The optics of a $10 million buyout during a time when the university is undergoing major upheaval? I think you're kidding yourself.

It's gotta to be donor money. If not, Ollie returns.
 
Georgetown is 8-0, and they beat Coppin St by 16...........schedule sucks but they are easily beating inferior competition....unlike another team.
 
Is it stupid and naive to want Ollie here next year just so we keep our 2018 class, esp. Akinjo?

I hate the "wait 'til next year" narrative every season, but assuming no one significant transfers....

Akinjo, Gilbert, Vital backcourt
Sid Wilson, Emmitt Matthews, Polley
Cobb, Diarra, Carlton, Whaley, Kisunas

And maybe we will get VERY lucky and 1 of Adams/Larrier come back.
I was on the Ollie train, then it started to teeter after Arkansas blowout+back to back OT games. But now I'm thinking it's more the players than Ollie (which, yes, Ollie is accountable for). Maybe he just needs the right guys to fit his system, and part of me still wants to give him the benefit of the doubt.

On the other hand, if we have another bad season and a mass exodus, then it will be very hard to defend his survival another year.
 
Hi-Low said:
Georgetown is 8-0, and they beat Coppin St by 16......schedule sucks but they are easily beating inferior competition....unlike another team.
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They haven’t played any games that ‘mattered’ yet. They are 0-0
 
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If Ollie was let go, anybody think he gets a P5 gig elsewhere? Imagine how exciting this place will be if we find him showing that 2014 magic with Akinjo/Matthews lighting up a league we can't get invited too. You think it's bad now, imagine that while we start at ground zero.
 
RayIsTheGOAT said:
Is it stupid and naive to want Ollie here next year just so we keep our 2018 class, esp. Akinjo?

I hate the "wait 'til next year" narrative every season, but assuming no one significant transfers....
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Is it stupid? Nah.

Personally, I’m really, really pissed that Ollie let this all happen - and he did - but I don’t see him getting fired this year for millions ($) of reasons, so I gotta hope for the best and hope that those kids coming in are better than we think.
 
RayIsTheGOAT said:
Is it stupid and naive to want Ollie here next year just so we keep our 2018 class, esp. Akinjo?

I hate the "wait 'til next year" narrative every season, but assuming no one significant transfers....

Akinjo, Gilbert, Vital backcourt
Sid Wilson, Emmitt Matthews, Polley
Cobb, Diarra, Carlton, Whaley, Kisunas

And maybe we will get VERY lucky and 1 of Adams/Larrier come back.
I was on the Ollie train, then it started to teeter after Arkansas blowout+back to back OT games. But now I'm thinking it's more the players than Ollie (which, yes, Ollie is accountable for). Maybe he just needs the right guys to fit his system, and part of me still wants to give him the benefit of the doubt.

On the other hand, if we have another bad season and a mass exodus, then it will be very hard to defend his survival another year.
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As long as he has a good class coming in -- and he has Alterique Gilbert, Sid Wilson, James Akinjo, and Emmitt Matthews coming in, all quality players -- you have to give him another year.

If Alterique is out, this team is going to be lousy because it has no point guard. But it can still be a good year for Kevin Ollie if he develops his players and keeps them competitive.
 
Hi-Low said:
Georgetown is 8-0, and they beat Coppin St by 16......schedule sucks but they are easily beating inferior competition....unlike another team.
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Really?

You think there's value in pointing out G'town beat them by 16 whereas UConn only won by 12?

Both teams should have won by 30.

But the difference between 16 and 12 in such a game is nothing more than a fart.
 
Whtdmd said:
Remember Ollie is 7-3 this yr. Ed Cooley is 7-3 and Dan Hurley is 5-3. Between these 2 jokers. They have 2 NCAA wins in 18 yrs as head coach. Ollie and an improving team is the answer for the next 2 yrs. Not some coach whose ceiling is the round of 32
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I don’t know if you’re post/thread is merely to provoke or you’re serious. But, have you looked at the attendance numbers recently? They had to literally give away free tickets today and there was still barely 3000 in Gampel. While you may have not noticed sharp attendance dexline, Athletic director DB certainly has. 2 more years of this and there will be no one left at all. Citing wins vs. losses without context is meaningless. Georgetown is also undefeated. All but 1 of our wins were against teams ranked 100-346, including today’s win against 0-10 Coppin State team ranked 346th our of 351 division one teams. We struggled in back to back overtime games to another couple low ranked mid-majors. Look at the schedule, and you will see based on our current trajectory, we will have more losses than wins, another record will be set midway through conference play.

By the way, Providence and Rhode Island are ranked roughly 45–50 Uconn is ranked 97th and falling.

Again, based on every reliable metric and predictive forecasting model, by years end, Kevin Ollie will have achieved 1 tournament appearance in 4 seasons. You really think they’re going to keep him for two more years?
 
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RayIsTheGOAT said:
Is it stupid and naive to want Ollie here next year just so we keep our 2018 class, esp. Akinjo?

I hate the "wait 'til next year" narrative every season, but assuming no one significant transfers....

Akinjo, Gilbert, Vital backcourt
Sid Wilson, Emmitt Matthews, Polley
Cobb, Diarra, Carlton, Whaley, Kisunas

And maybe we will get VERY lucky and 1 of Adams/Larrier come back.
I was on the Ollie train, then it started to teeter after Arkansas blowout+back to back OT games. But now I'm thinking it's more the players than Ollie (which, yes, Ollie is accountable for). Maybe he just needs the right guys to fit his system, and part of me still wants to give him the benefit of the doubt.

On the other hand, if we have another bad season and a mass exodus, then it will be very hard to defend his survival another year.
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Are we still at the point where we're assuming Adams and Larrier are not coming back? I mean, I get that they're older prospects who want to start making money, but they're really far away from being NBA players, I would think the default position of anybody on the team right now should be to come back. I mean, look at it this way, nobody other than UConn fans are going to be wondering whether those two are returning to school because they'll assume they will.
 
pj said:
As long as he has a good class coming in -- and he has Alterique Gilbert, Sid Wilson, James Akinjo, and Emmitt Matthews coming in, all quality players -- you have to give him another year.

If Alterique is out, this team is going to be lousy because it has no point guard. But it can still be a good year for Kevin Ollie if he develops his players and keeps them competitive.
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We say this every year. Last year we had like the top 10 recruiting class in the nation to go along with several-4/5 star players. We didn’t win with them before they were injured either.

I hate to say it, but the only team Ollie did well with was the one recruited and coached for two years by Jim Calhoun.
 
champs99and04 said:
Are we still at the point where we're assuming Adams and Larrier are not coming back? I mean, I get that they're older prospects who want to start making money, but they're really far away from being NBA players, I would think the default position of anybody on the team right now should be to come back. I mean, look at it this way, nobody other than UConn fans are going to be wondering whether those two are returning to school because they'll assume they will.
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Adams has better chance than Larrier. His mindset and the way he’s played has seemed he’s very checked out and ready for something else in his mind
 
jazyj said:
Well you’re in for a surprise
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This team wont have a winning record, he's as good as gone. This team and his product is like watching the clothes go round and round in the dryer.. yawn!!
 
I'm over Ollie. Not sure what the heck happened in the last few years, something obviously did. Seems like some of you guys have the inside scoop on things from within. I really cannot believe what has happened to him, he should be embarrassed. Think back that 1st year when he took over, team on probation, players left and we won 20 games in the big east. Now, I honestly cannot even watch these games, it's a struggle.
 
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NC_Uconn_Fan said:
I'm over Ollie. Not sure what the heck happened in the last few years, something obviously did. Seems like some of you guys have the inside scoop on things from within. I really cannot believe what has happened to him, he should be embarrassed. Think back that 1st year when he took over, team on probation, players left and we won 20 games in the big east. Now, I honestly cannot even watch these games, it's a struggle.
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You've answered part of your own question.

We've had to import our senior leadership, partly due to the probation. Yes, part was also due to the departures and to Hamilton leaving early. But we've been in a multi-year situation where the seniors were transfers or grad transfer 1-year players (Gibbs, Miller, Purvis, Anderson, Onuorah, etc.).

In terms of home-grown players that know his system and have been in it for 3 or 4 years, the only one we have right now that fits that description is Adams.

That's what has happened. Does Ollie need to own the recruiting misses that also led to this? Sure he does. TSam, Cassell, the folks that left this year, etc. But you are looking at a team that is either brutally young or had only been with Ollie for a couple of months, or both...
 
champs99and04 said:
Are we still at the point where we're assuming Adams and Larrier are not coming back? I mean, I get that they're older prospects who want to start making money, but they're really far away from being NBA players, I would think the default position of anybody on the team right now should be to come back. I mean, look at it this way, nobody other than UConn fans are going to be wondering whether those two are returning to school because they'll assume they will.
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KO has zero clout with these guys. Calhoun used to get guys to come back for one more year because they knew that he would improve their stock and get them to improve as players.

KO hasn't shown any such ability. They're gone.
 
If our big men don’t score 10-15 points then we have no chance vs Auburn or zona ..! I’m watching how the Alabama bigs are playing vs zona and there very in the flow of the game via touches, rebounding, steals , and hustle
 
Monmouth and Stony Brook are both good enough to win their conferences; that means 20 wins. Their record through 5 weeks is not indicative of how good they are. So ... throwing that murderers row list is fairly meaningless to where their KenPom will be in March.

There's no significant UConn boosters to pay Ollie to leave. He can get 14 suits at Mitchell's or a car. He has a ready seat at a bunch of NBA towns if he wants. I don't think we buy him out. So ... he needs to get great improvements from this bunch and hope for next year.

Only KO can make the call - at this point - to exit Storrs. And he might recognize that the Program has diminished.

Sorry to interrupt your pity party. Some kids look better - actually.
 
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Pudge said:
Monmouth and Stony Brook are both good tonight to win their conferences; that means 20 wins. Their record through 5 weeks is not indicative of how good they are. So ... throwing that murderers row list is fairly meaningless to where their KenPom will be in March.

There's no significant UConn boosters to pay Ollie to . He can get 14 suits at Mitchell's or a car. He has a ready seat at a bunch of NBA towns if he wants. I don't think. So ... he needs to get great improvements from this bunch and hope for next year.

Only KO can make the call - at this point - to exit Storrs. And he might recognize that the Program has diminished.

Sorry to interrupt your pity party. Some kids look better - actually.
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Drugs are really bad, man.
 
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