Olivia Miles to Irish
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Never going to happen... that would be like Brady leaving the Patriots and going South, nah, can't happen....
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Notre Dame...new coach...Niele Ivy
1. Surely kids will transfer...nope...check
2. Can she recruit when its her responsibility...check
3. Can she prepare a game plan...did it for years...check
4. Can she coach? We'll have to see...but I have an opinion...
1. Surely kids will transfer...nope...check
2. Can she recruit when its her responsibility...check
3. Can she prepare a game plan...did it for years...check
4. Can she coach? We'll have to see...but I have an opinion...
Miles to ND right after Muffett retires and Ivey gets the job is no surprise. I’ve been commenting in other BY threads about this for the past year. With Muffett at the helm ND was a train wreck. Watch out for the Irish now though, Ivey was the reason for the past years of success at ND and now that she’s calling the shots the Irish will become a force again.
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I think there are two strong possibilities here. Either she had already wanted to commit but Muffet told her to wait since she knew she was stepping down soon. Or she was on the fence but feels a strong connection to Ivey so Niele taking the head coach job sealed the deal.
I would love to think Ivey just blew Miles away with the Zoom call of a lifetime and turned a wide-open race into a commitment, but that's not realistic. She's good but not that good.
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My often articulated view as well.
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Not all years are fun for coaches. Some teams just push all the wrong buttons and make it extremely frustrating for coaches. That can result in loss of recruits when they see that tension. Happened to Geno a few years back. He saw the problem at least outwardly. Muffett was going through that stage and likely decided enough was enough. Both reactions can take a huge monkey off your back. I wish her well and will miss the rivalry.
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That's how I see it.
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Of course that's what happened. Announce the commitment after the Muffet and Niele news in order to give Niele some big recruiting news right out of the gate. PR 101.
Agree....there was likely some thought put to this by the past and present coaches.....Dare I say somewhat of a conspiracy?
I really think you all do not have a good feel for the past couple years recruits and ND recruiting among younger players. I’m telling you 100% Miles was in the fence with ND and Muffett’s personality was likely the roadblock. No way they told Miles the news of Ivey coming back and asked her to “wait” to announce. You don’t do that to recruits. Miles got to know Ivey almost exclusively through the recruiting process because Muffett was barely involved. Once Ivey got the job one “great zoom call” wasn’t needed cause Ivey had been doing it from the beginning with Miles.
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“relatable” is going to bring a lot of recruits to South Bend.
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I don't think what you'r;e saying is accurate. You're saying the kid wouldn't commit to a HOF coach that had Ivey as the assistant but would commit to Ivey? Notre Dame was in the finals the last 2 of 3 years and the kid is holing out to play for MM but jumps to play for Ivey with even less regard for Notre Dame overall? I think you're making it up and reading into things you want to believe. These kids top goal is pro ball. The coach just took her team to the finals 2 of the past 3 years-- that's a hot commodity.
So how do you explain Miles committing AFTER the HOF coach leaves and the new coach comes? Recruiting is very relational, very relational and Ivey had ALL the relationship. The tradition of ND (and Alli Campbell) was the only reason Olivia still had ND in top 5. Trust me, I have inside info on this. Your completely ignoring all the issues Muffet has had the past 3-4 years. This past seasons disaster was EASY to see coming.
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Ah... "Inside information". Explains everything!
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Insider information without anything to back it up? My insider information says that anyone who claims they know something 100% without backing it up with a source is 100% making it up...wait a minute...does that mean I'm making it up too?
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Exactly coco's point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So, you're saying while Ivey was working for Memphis she was still recruiting for ND ? I do find that hard to believe.
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What you're saying makes no sense on so many levels. For one thing UCONNKAT already gave you a reason - so why are you asking the question?
Secondly, I take it you are a ND fan? So you are coming on here on a UCONN site telling everyone that MM can't cut it anymore? A recent champion to boot?
Third, the "issues" she is having is "only" getting to the finals/wining a title and getting players into the pros? Those "issues?" The horror!!
Four, it just stretches realism to believe that despite a a kid's life dream of becoming a pro and despite loving the campus / school and other players (also "emotional points") -- in which the coach would probably help guide her into future pro level play, that she would shun all that and wait for a much more inexperienced/unproven coach instead.
Sure maybe a kid would like Ivey more-- but you have made all this sound like kids have been shunning MM for years and she's been riding the coattails from Ivey. What I think you are missing is that these kids are competitors. They want to win if they go to schools like UCONN and ND. Which leads me to #5.
Fifth - I think another possible explanation is you think you have inside information but someone has fed you major exaggerations. Emotion is important but so is winning and getting into the pros.
Sixth- on here we've had many people claim they have inside information. They didn't. I doubt you have it to the degree you think. For you to ask the question in bold and disregard the post from uconnkat looks like you're more into fighting. Fighting
--- Irish. Fudd replied to Miles' instagram post congratulating her and with a green heart.
Any top recruit, like Fudd, doesn't want to be singular in committing to a program that isn't going to surround her with talent that complements her game. So I think there's a handful of programs atop that list, and I do think, without a doubt, Notre Dame getting a verbal from the #1 point guard in her class will be something that is appealing to Fudd.
Over and over in Miles' video interview from a few days ago, she kept using the term "relatable" to describe Niele Ivey. Someone who has played the point, played in the WNBA, who's young and fresh. Just like many describe Dawn Staley. But it made me wonder, if Miles liked Notre Dame, liked Stanford, liked UConn, but didn't find the Muffet's, Tara's and Geno's of the business as someone she can immediately connect or relate with.
So, in many ways, I think it's like joining a start-up business early on or after the change of leadership. For Miles, it's a chance to be part of something, a new era in Notre Dame women's basketball and by her committing, it jump starts the next wave with a lot of public positivity. I think there's excitement there and you couple that with the rich history of the program and the culture of the school as well as the strong academic/athletic tradition, it'll be interesting to see who lands there next.
Any top recruit, like Fudd, doesn't want to be singular in committing to a program that isn't going to surround her with talent that complements her game. So I think there's a handful of programs atop that list, and I do think, without a doubt, Notre Dame getting a verbal from the #1 point guard in her class will be something that is appealing to Fudd.
Over and over in Miles' video interview from a few days ago, she kept using the term "relatable" to describe Niele Ivey. Someone who has played the point, played in the WNBA, who's young and fresh. Just like many describe Dawn Staley. But it made me wonder, if Miles liked Notre Dame, liked Stanford, liked UConn, but didn't find the Muffet's, Tara's and Geno's of the business as someone she can immediately connect or relate with.
So, in many ways, I think it's like joining a start-up business early on or after the change of leadership. For Miles, it's a chance to be part of something, a new era in Notre Dame women's basketball and by her committing, it jump starts the next wave with a lot of public positivity. I think there's excitement there and you couple that with the rich history of the program and the culture of the school as well as the strong academic/athletic tradition, it'll be interesting to see who lands there next.
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They can keep thinking that. Azzi has a professional plan. Her parents are basketball people. I just can't see them saying yeah let's try this new head coach and bet your career on this new head coach having it altogether on day 1.. .. This is business for them.
And before you all feeak out, I know she has a lot of coaching experience but being at the top of any organization is a learning experience at first no matter how much experience or being prepared you are.
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Fudd betting her career on an unproven coach would not be a wise decision, but she may have enough talent that it doesn't matter where she plays college ball. I wouldn't pass up the best career development I could get for my profession though. You are right in that being the head honcho is way different than being a cog in the machine. Holly Warlick had three decades of on the job training learning from the best, and she quickly flamed out trying to follow an iconic coach. Name all of the big programs where the coach who follows a legend had comparable success. There are probably not many. Part of the problem is that the bar is set so incredibly high. When Geno retires, there isn't a coach in America that's going to be able to step in and win 87% of games and go 25 years without back to back losses.
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