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Dogbreath2U said:
This is a good question. This what makes this charge on Tyler so completely stupid. His teammate just got suspended from the team for refusing to leave at the order of police, so what does doofus Tyler do?
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That's not what Wolf did. Why do UConn fan's keep saying this?
 
Rico444 said:
I don't know, you're saying you're surprised we don't have a higher percentage of black players arrested. Forget about the sample size issues here, that's just an odd stat to bring up when 2 white guys get arrested, and yeah, it makes me a little uncomfortable. Not calling you a racist or anything, it's just a weird stat to bring up out of nowhere.
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That is not at all what I am, or was saying. Not sure how you got that from my post. I just mentioned that it was statistically more likely in a vacuum, which made it ironic but that does not suggest that I was surprised at all. I am surprised in general that any of the kids got arrested to be honest, they all seem like good kids. And it wasn't out of nowhere, I made the following post first
"Anyone else find it ironic, from a sociological perspective, that in the recent past we have not had many white players on our teams, and then, once we get a few, two of them get arrested?"

Anyway, sorry it made you feel uncomfortable.
 
upstater said:
That's not what Wolf did. Why do UConn fan's keep saying this?
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Well, I guess I said it because I thought that was what was reported. It sounded as if Wolf might have not been charged if he had left when told to do so.

Thanks for your sincere interest in the motivation behind my post.
 
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See this is where I disagree with fleudislipcon. Olander, or any member of the basketball team, is not the the same as a Black Chinese Jewish woman chemistry major. She gets arrested in Florida and there is no article on ESPN, no coverage in the Hartford Courant, nothing on the Channel 3 news. It isn't unfair either. olander gets perks, officially and unofficially, that others don't get. But it goes beyond that. The university probably won't do anything about this incident. Probably they have no jurisdiction. But the basketball coach is a whole different situation. He has the ability to take actions against a team member that are outside any actions the university can or does take. Look at it this way. If this had happened during the season, on a trip to USF, the University might have taken some aciton since it was a university sponsored activity. Assume they place Olander on probation for the balance of the semester. Ollie could also take some independent action, say bench him for the Cincinnati and Georgetown games. Or he could make him run suicicdes after practice every day for a week or at 6 AM or something. In the current case, I'm saying that the University will probably do nothing since its likely they have no jurisdiction. But Ollie, he has jurisdiction, by gosh and he should use it. Take his scholarship. Tell him he's welcome to walk on next semester. And do it the next time some kid acts like a jerk and gets arrested, too. My guess is before long, guys will be more careful about acting like as both in and out of season. As the earlier post says, 2 game suspensions aren't getting it done. Ollie and Manuel need to send a message loud and clear that this crap is going to cease.
 
Doesn't surprise me: I use to live near Panama City Beach......w/o a doubt the biggest mushroom cap cops in the country(makes WiltonPD look good).... If you sneeze the wrong way, prepare to be in cuffs.... Not sure why kids still go there, they tore down most of the awesome spots & put up condos in the past decade...... It's a shell of what it use to be back in the day.
 
Jerry1714 said:
Since 05-06 team 20% of our scholarships players have been arrested. Hofstra might be worse but not many others are.
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And people wonder why UConn gets no sympathy from the NCAA or the media and has a rep as a "dirty" program...
 
seanmc94 said:
Best advice my dad ever gave me; if law enforcement tells you to do something; do it. You may be right , but you're still arrested.
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Yup...

http://www.newsherald.com/news/crime-public-safety/uconn-s-olander-arrested-in-pcb-1.115554

"The Bay County Sheriff's Office says the 20-year-old junior from Mansfield, Conn., was arrested at a Panama City Beach condominium complex at about 2 a.m. Thursday after refusing orders by security guards and a sheriff's deputy to leave the property."
 
seanmc94 said:
Best advice my dad ever gave me; if law enforcement tells you to do something; do it. You may be right , but you're still arrested.
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Huh. And here I thought the best approach was a declaration of "I know my rights!" followed by a stern finger in the chest and "I pay your salary."
 
8893 said:
Huh. And here I thought the best approach was a declaration of "I know my rights!" followed by a stern finger in the chest and "I pay your salary."
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Do you have any idea who my father is?!
 
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Dogbreath2U said:
Well, I guess I said it because I thought that was what was reported. It sounded as if Wolf might have not been charged if he had left when told to do so.

Thanks for your sincere interest in the motivation behind my post.
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You know, it's been printed here a thousand times already. The girl asked him to leave, not the police.
 
freescooter said:
And people wonder why UConn gets no sympathy from the NCAA or the media and has a rep as a "dirty" program...
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WOW, unreal. What have UConn players done? How is it a dirty program. Stop with your constant anti-UConn nonsense.
 
BoatShow said:
One of my former coworker's dad is a UConn cop
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What are his thoughts on the whole "Stalinist USSR" theme that the police are running with there nowadays? Multiple dodge chargers in sight at all times and cameras everywhere? lol. Better arrest all those kids smoking joints on a Saturday night
 
I'd just like to clear up some misconceptions of what actually happened in Panama City Beach. All of Uconn was staying at a hotel called the Laketown Wharf. Tyler was coming back to the hotel, and after 10 o clock you can't come if you don't have a wristband. He had a wristband for the place across the street. The cop told him to leave and after just being a normal drunk obnoxious kid they proceeded to get pretty rough with him. Meanwhile security guards watching this happen were asking me if he was a basketball player and who he was as if they were trying to arrest him ecause he was a basketball player. We tried to reason with them and say that we'd walk with him back to his hotel and the officers wouldn't allow it.
 
So it's basically nothing. I was expecting that. People on here definitely were acting like he caught a murder charge while in fact wearing his full UConn uniform
 
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I haven't read this whole thread but I want Wolfe back in uniform. I just want to win at this point. I don't think he did anything too terrible based on available info.
 
freescooter said:
See this is where I disagree with fleudislipcon. Olander, or any member of the basketball team, is not the the same as a Black Chinese Jewish woman chemistry major. She gets arrested in Florida and there is no article on ESPN, no coverage in the Hartford Courant, nothing on the Channel 3 news. It isn't unfair either. olander gets perks, officially and unofficially, that others don't get. But it goes beyond that. The university probably won't do anything about this incident. Probably they have no jurisdiction. But the basketball coach is a whole different situation. He has the ability to take actions against a team member that are outside any actions the university can or does take. Look at it this way. If this had happened during the season, on a trip to USF, the University might have taken some aciton since it was a university sponsored activity. Assume they place Olander on probation for the balance of the semester. Ollie could also take some independent action, say bench him for the Cincinnati and Georgetown games. Or he could make him run suicicdes after practice every day for a week or at 6 AM or something. In the current case, I'm saying that the University will probably do nothing since its likely they have no jurisdiction. But Ollie, he has jurisdiction, by gosh and he should use it. Take his scholarship. Tell him he's welcome to walk on next semester. And do it the next time some kid acts like a jerk and gets arrested, too. My guess is before long, guys will be more careful about acting like as both in and out of season. As the earlier post says, 2 game suspensions aren't getting it done. Ollie and Manuel need to send a message loud and clear that this crap is going to cease.
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I would still have a problem disciplining TO in the manner you're advocating even if the same discipline were applied to every student who was on spring break and got into trouble. If the chem department takes away the chemistry scholarship from a student who gets in trouble like TO, if the University removes any aid or scholarships from students who get in trouble on spring break, if these kids are made to do extra homework or run wind sprints or whatever floats your boat in addition to the scholarship revoking then I have less of an issue about this. I absolutely am against singling out one group of people no matter what their identity is (minority, female, religion, economic or social stratum, or in Tylers case someone who is in a high profile position).

If we want to reduce a behavior we could all move to Saudi Arabia. They still have their share of people doing a things but they have reduced it. It comes with a price. The price is freedom as it is in all repressive societies. I'm sure lots of the people living there would argue against your point of view if they could express it without fear of retaliation.

I'm not advocating anarchy or a license for us to be jerks. The type of behavior displayed by Tyler was the antithesis of how I went through my ten years of post high school education. But that's just me. It's not necessary for other people to behave like me. I have met a lot of people who did things like Tyler when they were young but they contributed quite nicely to society. There are a lot of posters in this forum who admitted to displaying behaviors similar to Tyler or worse. Do we ostracize each and every one of them as well? And I know people who behaved in a manner that would have satisfied even your sensibilities as college students who, as adults really screwed up badly for themselves, their families and society. I'm pointing out issues aren't as straight forward as you feel comfortable in approaching them.
 
huskymedic said:
Thursday after refusing orders by security guards and a sheriff's deputy to leave the property."
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There's dumb.
There's really dumb.
And then there's Olanderdumb.

I went to school in the 80s. I never considered myself "old school," or otherwise tracked like the jar heads of my father's generation, who were all about decorum and such.

But I suppose I ended up that way. Or maybe I just got old.

What --- is with kids today? Seriously. I was never so inebriated, spoiled, or egocentric enough to even have considered telling security guards and a sheriff's deputy "no" when I was being told to leave a building in which I was not a tenant, in a state 20 hours drive away from my own, for a vacation. Never. I would have been so appalled that I had done something requiring LEO intervention that I would have tucked my tail between my legs, been remorseful and respectful, and thankful for the chance to leave without arrest, and then gotten -- out of there.

Jesus. How dumb do you have to be to tell a cop "no. I'm not leaving"?

Think about it. When is the last time you saw a COPS episode that ended with the cop saying, "good point. I'll go ahead and let you have your drunken way."
 
I had occasion to go to a well known univ last week (spring break). The campus was pretty vacant - except for Chinese and Indian kids who were all studying their buts off. I guess all the all-Americans were in jail - via Florida and spring break? There's a social comment for ya.
 
Husky said:
So it's basically nothing. I was expecting that. People on here definitely were acting like he caught a murder charge while in fact wearing his full UConn uniform
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No one is acting like Tyler murdered anyone. Most people are saying he acted like a genius. Which is pretty fair. As far as it being "basically nothing," I think that's silly. Getting drunk on spring break is "basically nothing." Getting arrested while on spring break, particularly when you're a high-profile athlete at a premiere program, is not. I don't think he should lose his scholarship or anything like that, but I would expect Ollie to discipline him. Hopefully by, at least, taking away his spot in any cipher going forward. Maybe make him stick to being a hype man.

And I don't think it's too much to say that when you're a D1 basketball player and one of the faces of your university, you should consider those things when deciding how to act off the court. If you want to be a run of the mill jerkoff, play intramurals.
 
What was Tyler Olander arrested at Spring Break??? It must have been a miscommunication or something. I mean there are never ever any other 20-21 yo's arrested for being drunk in Florida on Spring Break. These kind of things never ever happen.
 
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BearJWS said:
What was Tyler Olander arrested at Spring Break??? It must have been a miscommunication or something. I mean there are never ever any other 20-21 yo's arrested for being drunk in Florida on Spring Break. These kind of things never ever happen.
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What's your point?
 
Coach Ollie has to wait on the formal justice system's decision, but assuming that both TO and EW have formal charges dropped, IMO a reasonable punishment would be (for violation of team rules) suspensions (perhaps 1 game for TO, time served for EW), tight curfews for both (midnight?), strict probation (any further EtOH related incident or trouble with the law means they are off the team), neither is considered for team captain and neither gets to start for the first semester.
 
huskyharry said:
Coach Ollie has to wait on the formal justice system's decision, but...
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It might be a small point to some, but it's not in my opinion... I don't believe the above portion of your post is accurate. KO doesn't have to wait on the formal decision. Instead, he decided that he will.
 
I cede your point and also support Coach Ollie's decision in that regard
 
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