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Scottzer said:
I’m not sure how good we are right now. I really can’t differentiate many of the teams 2-6. I think we beat Purdue, toss up with Duke and Michigan, and I don’t want to match up against Houston. I’m glad we have another month to get the machine running properly.
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Gary Parrish now thinks Houston will win it all. Then again he had St. John's #1 to start the season. I like Houston but I would be somewhat worried that they rely heavily on a freshman point guard. I just am not confident in a freshman point guard leading a team to the championship.

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Top 25 And 1: Houston looking good enough to win NCAA Tournament

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jojipoji said:
I think it does esp at the top. By kenpom and most other metrics UConn is a 3 seed right now. No way if the season ended now UConn get a 3
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We have the number one resume per Maya. We are a one seed as of today. These other metrics are supplemental.
HooperScooper said:
Gary Parrish now thinks Houston will win it all. Then again he had St. John's #1 to start the season. I like Houston but I would be somewhat worried that they rely heavily on a freshman point guard. I just am not confident in a freshman point guard leading a team to the championship.

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Top 25 And 1: Houston looking good enough to win NCAA Tournament

CBS Sports' Gary Parrish is picking the 17-1 Cougars to cut down the nets in Indianapolis
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epitome of being different
 
jojipoji said:
I think it does esp at the top. By kenpom and most other metrics UConn is a 3 seed right now. No way if the season ended now UConn get a 3
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Poll rankings picked by brain dead writers have NEVER been a criteria nor had influence over seedlings. This is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard.
 
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FfldCntyFan said:
This.

Losing to Butler hurt them quite a bit. Even if they only won by a basket or two SH would have been a few spots outside 25. A clear win may have left them ranked.

Sadly, a couple more performances like the Butler game could put them on the wrong side of the bubble.
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I get that Butler has been bad record wise since the start of conference play, but I hate how Seton Hall was penalized so much for losing to them after also playing us to a close finish. It's not as if Butler is a bad team, they have a win over current #14 Virginia as well and are basically top 50 in the NET. Their NET was in the 20s at the start of conference play, and they've played a lot of the top teams in conference already which is part of the reason their conference record is so bad.

Seton Hall obviously doesn't deserve to be in the top 25, but I was a little surprised they didn't even get one vote if I'm being honest.
 
HooperScooper said:
Gary Parrish now thinks Houston will win it all. Then again he had St. John's #1 to start the season. I like Houston but I would be somewhat worried that they rely heavily on a freshman point guard. I just am not confident in a freshman point guard leading a team to the championship.

www.cbssports.com

Top 25 And 1: Houston looking good enough to win NCAA Tournament

CBS Sports' Gary Parrish is picking the 17-1 Cougars to cut down the nets in Indianapolis
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com
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Parrish is almost always wrong about anything, but he owns up to it. I’m not thinking Houston to potentially go further than a FF. I just hate the idea of playing them when we are prone to turnovers.
 
millertime7774 said:
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That out of conference keeps looking better and better... Conference not so much.
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If St Johns and Villanova can avoid losses to schools other than uconn, nova St johns, they might end up as a decent opponent in the resume.

Seton Hall stinks in my opinion but the full court press combined with Bug East refs that let them foul 5 times on every press will win some games for them. They stole ( or the refs stole) that game against Creighton.

Creighton has a clever coach and a good home court so they might steal some wins. I think the best thing that could happen for Big East would be for UConn, St Johns and Villanova to dominate the league. I don’t think any other team has a shot of winning an ncaa game
 
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ninety-nine said:
Someone's got an axe to grind. Her other picks are all pretty consistent with the poll. The Syracuse location is definitely suspect.
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You can look at her previous weeks rankings, they aren't far off the norm for UConn (I think, I looked at them yesterday late at night). This was a huge deviation for UConn in her rankings.

Either she really hated the two close wins UConn had, thought other teams had some huge wins, or she made a mistake.
 
Scottzer said:
I’m not sure how good we are right now. I really can’t differentiate many of the teams 2-6. I think we beat Purdue, toss up with Duke and Michigan, and I don’t want to match up against Houston. I’m glad we have another month to get the machine running properly.
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All depends on how we shoot from 3 . 22% and we don’t beat them. 35% I like our chances
 
Brutal for Seton Hall. Finally got ranked last week now they’re nowhere to be found. The loss against us is acceptable, the one against Butler not so much

OOC looking good. Illinois and BYU top 15, Florida and Kansas top 20. Only loss is to unanimous #1. Is it weird I don’t think Illinois is anywhere near as good as their ranking?

St John’s is tied with Wisconsin for #26, they’ve been turning it around. Villanova has 3 points, 2-0 gets them easily in (home vs GTown, then in CT on Saturday). Tall task ahead for them but they’ll be motivated
 
HooperScooper said:
I just am not confident in a freshman point guard leading a team to the championship.
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Just 2 seasons ago we had Steph Castle as our point. I do generally agree with you, but ultimately it comes down to the quality of the player. These kids play a lot of hoops and tournaments long before they get on campus. They're not untested freshman.
 
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upstater said:
Yes, it has an impact. It's crazy to believe it doesn't.
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You are just continuing to prove how little you know about college basketball. You should just stop. AP rankings have NOTHING TO DO WITH SEEDING in the NCAA tournament. Never have, never will.

Let's look at last year, just as one example:

AZ was a 4 seed. They were ranked #21 in the last top 25 poll
BYU was a 6 seed. They were ranked #17 in the last top 25 poll.
St Marys was a 7 seed. They were ranked #20 in the last top 25 poll.
Gonzaga was an 8 seed. They were ranked #24 in the last top 25 poll.
Kentucky was a 3 seed. They were ranked #18 in the last top 25 poll,.
Clemson was a 5 seed. They were ranked #13 in the last top 25 poll.

I could go on. And that is just from LAST year. Each one of those teams was seeded at least two lines off of where their ranking indicated they should be. Some higher, some lower.

Poll rankings don't mean SQUAT for seeding purposes.
 
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Posters in this thread crying over Seton Hall like they didn't just get dominated at home by a Butler team that has been getting their doors blown by everyone in the BE, y'all sound crazy as hell
 
uconngb said:
You are just continuing to prove how little you know about college basketball. You should just stop. AP rankings have NOTHING TO DO WITH SEEDING in the NCAA tournament. Never have, never will.
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It's correlative but there is zero relationship to seeding.

AZ 1 is the current 1 seed
We could very well be 2, UM 3.

No one on the committee is looking at the AP when they're assessing.
 
aceboon said:
Posters in this thread crying over Seton Hall like they didn't just get dominated at home by a Butler team that has been getting their doors blown by everyone in the BE, y'all sound crazy as hell
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No idea why anyone is getting wrapped up in SHU.
 
RuffRuff said:
It's correlative but there is zero relationship to seeding.

AZ 1 is the current 1 seed
We could very well be 2, UM 3.

No one on the committee is looking at the AP when they're assessing.
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This.....the relationship is purely coincidental. Polls are not used as an input to determine seeding. Obviously, all the 1 seeds are going to be highly ranked. But they aren't 1 seeds BECAUSE they are highly ranked. We all know there are other metrics the committee uses.
 
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jojipoji said:
I think it does esp at the top. By kenpom and most other metrics UConn is a 3 seed right now. No way if the season ended now UConn get a 3
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Resume metrics have UConn top 3, we wouldn’t be a 3 seed either way
 
uconngb said:
You are just continuing to prove how little you know about college basketball. You should just stop. AP rankings have NOTHING TO DO WITH SEEDING in the NCAA tournament. Never have, never will.

Let's look at last year, just as one example:

AZ was a 4 seed. They were ranked #21 in the last top 25 poll
BYU was a 6 seed. They were ranked #17 in the last top 25 poll.
St Marys was a 7 seed. They were ranked #20 in the last top 25 poll.
Gonzaga was an 8 seed. They were ranked #24 in the last top 25 poll.
Kentucky was a 3 seed. They were ranked #18 in the last top 25 poll,.
Clemson was a 5 seed. They were ranked #13 in the last top 25 poll.

I could go on. And that is just from LAST year. Each one of those teams was seeded at least two lines off of where their ranking indicated they should be. Some higher, some lower.

Poll rankings don't mean SQUAT for seeding purposes.
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Your deranged misreading of what I wrote is bizarre.

"I know nothing."

Pick up a dictionary and look up the word impact because you have a severe dysfunction when it comes to reading and language.
 
Fairfield_1st said:
Just 2 seasons ago we had Steph Castle as our point. I do generally agree with you, but ultimately it comes down to the quality of the player. These kids play a lot of hoops and tournaments long before they get on campus. They're not untested freshman.
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Ummmm, Tristen Newton was playing point for us. How else did he win the Bob Cousy Award? You really think Castle was the point guard on that team? Maybe a secondary ball handler but in no way was he the main point guard on that team. Flemings definitely is Houston's main point guard which is what would worry me if I was predicting that they would win the championship.

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jojipoji said:
I think it does esp at the top. By kenpom and most other metrics UConn is a 3 seed right now. No way if the season ended now UConn get a 3
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Yes, it does have an impact. You see it when the metrics say one thing but the committee skews things a little toward the ranking.

There were dozens of examples last year.

St. John's metrics showed them at 14. Yet in the polls they were 5.

Clearly, the committee was influenced by the ranking. Not saying this is the case every or even most of the time or even that it's a major factor, but how else do you account for St John's 2 seed?

AND, they were 6 in the ranking BEFORE they won the Big East tournament, so that didn't even have an impact on the voters' estimations.
 
upstater said:
Yes, it does have an impact. You see it when the metrics say one thing but the committee skews things a little toward the ranking.

There were dozens of examples last year.

St. John's metrics showed them at 14. Yet in the polls they were 5.

Clearly, the committee was influenced by the ranking. Not saying this is the case every or even most of the time or even that it's a major factor, but how else do you account for St John's 2 seed?

AND, they were 6 in the ranking BEFORE they won the Big East tournament, so that didn't even have an impact on the voters' estimations.
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You're forgetting that there are other metrics, not just predictive KenPom/Torvik metrics.

St. John's was between 4 and 8 in WAB and SOR last season on Selection Sunday. And they got a 2 seed. It tracks.
 
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