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oldude said:
Hmmmm....Hope we’re not opening up a certain can of worms about a current freshman in South Bend....:rolleyes:
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I thought Brunelle's offer was allegedly pulled? One can't pulled an offer that was never extended.
 
sivad40 said:
I thought Brunelle's offer was allegedly pulled? One can't pulled an offer that was never extended.
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UConn indicated there was no offer. People close to SB indicated there was.
 
DaBball said:
Adamec reported she was offered: Sam Brunelle hoping to set gold standard

I don't believe Adamec would report it if it wasn't true. Whether or not she had one when she committed, I'm not sure, but I do believe she held one at some point.
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This has been discussed/argued/debated ad nauseam on this board! The ONLY people that know for sure whether or not Brunelle was offered, are Auriemma and Brunelle.
 
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MSGRET said:
I disagree, she has A LOT of tricks in her game. She befuddled many of teams with her play be it either in scoring, passing, dribbling, and even in stealing.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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Sarg: You don't disagree--you actually agree--you missed the paragraph for the final words. He said--I paraphrase: She doesn't need trick (for the Halloween) because she has the skills. On that I'm sure WE ALL agree. Now I'd never totally disagree or correct an MSGT--or a CPO (more my speed) or my Col Daughter for that matter or my Cmdr flight officer Grandson. you all have my respect for your service.
 
BroadwayVa said:
Sarg: You don't disagree--you actually agree--you missed the paragraph for the final words. He said--I paraphrase: She doesn't need trick (for the Halloween) because she has the skills. On that I'm sure WE ALL agree. Now I'd never totally disagree or correct an MSGT--or a CPO (more my speed) or my Col Daughter for that matter or my Cmdr flight officer Grandson. you all have my respect for your service.
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I also watched Paige's games and I believe that half of the fun was watching all of her tricks that she used to befuddle the opposing team. They didn't know what she would do and when they played off she would hit her shots and when they tried to defend she would seem to find the open teammate for the easy one. Those I would call tricks and we were allowed to watch the treats that she dished out. I can't wait for here to do the same at UConn. She has to do her tricks for us to get our treat watching her magic.:cool::cool:

What Branch is your Daughter? Tell them both thanks for their service for me.
 
DaBball said:
Adamec reported she was offered: Sam Brunelle hoping to set gold standard

I don't believe Adamec would report it if it wasn't true. Whether or not she had one when she committed, I'm not sure, but I do believe she held one at some point.
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I would say the same thing about Mike Anthony from the Hartford Courant who reported that UConn did not offer a scholarship to Brunelle.
 
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oldude said:
I would say the same thing about Mike Anthony from the Hartford Courant who indicated that UConn did not offer a scholarship to Brunelle.
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Must we really rehash this?
Mike Anthony's article in the Courant appeared less than 1 hour after Samantha Brunelle announced her commitment to ND on April 15, The article went out of it's way to say she did not pick ND over UCONN, and cited sources familiar with the "process", & stated that Samantha did not have a UCONN offer. The timing and the premise that Samantha did not pick ND over UCONN should have created enough suspicion from ANYONE who was paying attention to the recruitment of Samantha Brunelle. Her recruitment included multiple unofficial visits to UCONN the last occurring around new year. I am really disappointed in Mike because if he wanted accurate sources familiar with the "process" he could have contacted me or you.

Samantha Brunelle in a article a few weeks later confirmed she had a UCONN offer. To the best of my knowledge Carl Adamec has not printed a retraction and he has sources familiar with the UCONN PROGRAM. I'm going to roll with Carl and Samantha on this one.
 
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CocoHusky said:
Must we really rehash this?
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Coco, I couldn’t agree more. Somewhere back in this thread I posted what was intended to be a joke, complete with emogee :rolleyes: in response to Cat’s post. Subsequently, Sivad, DaBall & now you have followed up with questions, comments and/or outrage that I would raise the subject in the first place.

I should know better. Sometimes my humor can be lost on some of the folks around here.
 
DaBball said:
In addition two 2020 players, Maggie Besselink (Canadian who committed to AZ State) and Ugonne Onyiah both listed UConn as the programs who they chose their respective schools over, but I had never heard of either of them, so who knows.

My bet is that Maggie Besselink is a relation to Gerry Besselink who was an important PF/C for the men's team from 1983 to 1987. I think he also had a significant overseas pro career and if I recall correctly he imposed his will on the court in the early Calhoon charity games. Seems like we would have had at least courtesy interest based on that pedigree. He was originally from Finland I believe when he played.
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Blue Star has inexplicably not had Aaliyah Edwards ranked in the 2020 class. Today they noted her commitment to UConn and gave her a 300 ranking.


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Sluconn Husky said:
Blue Star has inexplicably not had Aaliyah Edwards ranked in the 2020 class. Today they noted her commitment to UConn and gave her a 300 ranking.


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Wow! She must not be very good at all. Maybe the coaching staff has lost it's ability to correctly evaluate.:(

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Sluconn Husky said:
Blue Star has inexplicably not had Aaliyah Edwards ranked in the 2020 class. Today they noted her commitment to UConn and gave her a 300 ranking.


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This is probably due to her being international and so Blue Star not being able to assess her in person. Alanna Smith, our recently graduated All-American, was recruited from Australia, and so she was also deemed to be whatever the default unranked ranking was by almost all of the major recruiting services, which was comical, because those in the know knew she was at least among the 25 best incoming frosh. I wouldn't sweat it because honestly, once you've seen film and she's committed, why the h3ck should you care what the recruit rankings say? She'll prove her worth on the court for the next four seasons. As far as I'm concerned, recruiting rankings/assessments are useful to identify who fans should hope are offered/enroll, so they cease to have value once a player commits.

ETA: Note how Muhl is also assessed the default 90 by ESPN and is rated as UConn's lowest rated commit for the 2020 class, which is how they handle almost all non-Canadian recruits (and even some lesser recruited Canadians). Anyone who has seen a single highlight reel of Muhl knows that rating her a 90 is LOL-worthy.

Tl;dr? Ignore recruiting ratings for international recruits.
 
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MSGRET said:
I also watched Paige's games and I believe that half of the fun was watching all of her tricks that she used to befuddle the opposing team. They didn't know what she would do and when they played off she would hit her shots and when they tried to defend she would seem to find the open teammate for the easy one. Those I would call tricks and we were allowed to watch the treats that she dished out. I can't wait for here to do the same at UConn. She has to do her tricks for us to get our treat watching her magic.:cool::cool:

What Branch is your Daughter? Tell them both thanks for their service for me.
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She's now retired, disability, but trained in many sections, units, divisions--she's an Engineer and ended in the Engineer Corp. Some former Army denied she could have done what she did--but the truth is the truth. As a former CT Army NG and Navy, no one knows everything about all branches of the services in which they serve. But that was a year or 3 ago. No one knows what the top brass will allow even if you were one at some time.
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Sluconn Husky said:
Blue Star has inexplicably not had Aaliyah Edwards ranked in the 2020 class. Today they noted her commitment to UConn and gave her a 300 ranking.


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Motivation for Ms Edwards and Uconn.
Truth of life and fact of UConn is WE DON"T CARE where she is ranked--it's how she plays for Geno that counts. Take that ranking and put it in a very dark place, where the sun doesn't shine.
 
oldude said:
Coco, I couldn’t agree more. Somewhere back in this thread I posted what was intended to be a joke, complete with emogee :rolleyes: in response to Cat’s post. Subsequently, Sivad, DaBall & now you have followed up with questions, comments and/or outrage that I would raise the subject in the first place.

I should know better. Sometimes my humor can be lost on some of the folks around here.
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I'm the most dense brained BY poster and Emoji's mean little--can't always tell what they mean. Maybe put (JOKE) after the comment then my density may turn to mush (it's normal state).
 
MSGRET said:
I also watched Paige's games and I believe that half of the fun was watching all of her tricks that she used to befuddle the opposing team. They didn't know what she would do and when they played off she would hit her shots and when they tried to defend she would seem to find the open teammate for the easy one. Those I would call tricks and we were allowed to watch the treats that she dished out. I can't wait for here to do the same at UConn. She has to do her tricks for us to get our treat watching her magic.:cool::cool:

What Branch is your Daughter? Tell them both thanks for their service for me.
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Sarg: I guess it's how you see it. Your tricks I see as using her athletic body and brain to overwhelm/overcome the opponents. Semantics--probably, mostly just how we see it differently with the same results---Tricks if you want I accept your point of view, while I keeping mine. That's the BY WAY.
 
Count me as another who can't muster much outrage about the recruitment service rankings, whether it's player or class rankings. I couldn't care less about whether UConn gets the "glory" of having the #1 ranked recruiting class.

I get that the anticipation is part of the fun — and I'm just as thrilled as the next guy to see Edwards choose UConn — but we've all seen that not every highly regarded recruit pans out or stays put. A look at the top 3 recruiting classes from two years ago serves as a cautionary tale:

1. Tennessee: #2 Westbrook, #7 Hayes, #12 Davis, #57 Kushkituah. Hayes was kicked off the team after one year, and Westbrook transferred after two.
2. UConn: #1 Walker, #13 Coombs, #16 Espinoza, #29 Gordon. No need to rehash the particulars here.
3. Texas: #3 Patterson, #4 Boothe, #33 Littleton. One of the biggest recruiting-class busts in history. Patterson and Boothe played only minimally before transferring. Littleton was a modest contributor off the bench in her sophomore year before transferring.
 
TheFarmFan said:
This is probably due to her being international and so Blue Star not being able to assess her in person.
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It's certainly possible that Blue Star doesn't scout non-Americans though I'm pretty sure they had Lattimore in their top-10 at one point. And they definitely had Amihere in their top-10 but have removed her too.
 
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Couple of thoughts on 'rankings' for college players:
1. No one is making a killing providing rankings of HS women's basketball players, and the owners of the services aren't paying their limited staffs a whole lot of money either. In general the sum total of people doing the 'rankings' make it to major HS tournaments where they can see a lot of players in a few days and then a minute fraction of local HS games. They get limited video review of other games and highlight reels for limited numbers of players. The field of HS players vs. the actual total hours of exposure to people ranking them is very small. Most of the viewing is focused on the top fifty players and the drop off from top ten to next ten to next ten, etc. is dramatic - players selected by USA basketball get a bump in exposure, players at the trials for USA get a smaller bump.

2. International players get almost no exposure to the rankers outside of international team (age restricted or otherwise) competitions. It is better for Canadian HS players and drops off dramatically for any other nationality. It wasn't many years ago that no service was ranking international HS kids.

3. There are two different and somewhat opposing views on how to rank HS players: 1) How they compare to their fellow HS players at this level of competition, vs. 2) How will they develop at the college level and compete against a significantly different pool of opponents and integrate with considerably better teammates.

4. Added to the above points of 'inaccuracy' in ranking HS players is the biggest issue - the viewing window for these players is from age 13-17 or thereabouts. These 'children' are still undergoing considerable mental and physical change and maturation and their development into adults will continue for their time in college. The changes mentally and physical from 13-21 for human are greater during these years than for any future eight year stretch in their lives and will significantly change the skill and mental make-up of anyone who pursues a sport. And of course that development curve varies dramatically with each individual.
 
Sluconn Husky said:
Hopkins practice has started which means we get to enjoy the Paige show:


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I'm going to enjoy watching her next year with UConn going to the Big East they should be on National TV more than what they will be this season. I just hope that when SNY is covering them I can watch it live, if not I'll watch after it's posted on the BY.
 
MSGRET said:
I'm going to enjoy watching her next year with UConn going to the Big East they should be on National TV more than what they will be this season. I just hope that when SNY is covering them I can watch it live, if not I'll watch after it's posted on the BY.
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Why do you think they will be on National TV more in the Big East? We are not even sure SNY will have rights to carry games next year are we?
 
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