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Because 25 years ago different program that hadn't been to a final 4 since Pearl Harbor, made tee shirts to commemorate the occasion, as a UConn fan in 2023 you shouldn't care about this.

Try and keep up, lol.
Well hey this year I learned that I’m a fair weather fan because I left a cupcake game up 27 with 6 minutes left so yeah I guess I’m falling behind precipitously
 
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Ask Coach Hurley what the state of the program was when he took it over. I'm nearly certain that dumpster fire would sound mild by comparison.

Coach Hurley and his staff have done a miraculous job.
Not arguing with that. Of course they have. I didn't say they haven't.

Hurley had obvious reasons to talk about the down state of the program. I don't think I need to spell out why he would do that. And yes it was not in a good place or else Ollie wouldn't have gotten fired.

I'll agree the program was down but "dumpster fire" is hyperbole. I guess it's all relative from the height of the program in the almost 30 years before that but in Ollie's last 2 seasons the team was 16-17 (9-9 in conference) and 14-18 (7-11). Not good but not "dumpster fire" bad. Dumpster fire is what has been going on at DePaul the last few years. UConn was never that bad and it was only 2 years the program was down. Hardly "dumpster fire".
 
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Stifling, eh? Sounds bothersome.

Back to the topic at hand: if you were a voter, what ranking would you have chosen this week for UConn? 1, 2, 4, or something else?

I'd have voted #1, and don't think that 39 voters doing the same represents an undeserved result. Do you?

I'm not giving much attention right now toward voters who chose differently, and their votes don't upset me, which is why I asked your opinion.

You don't really consider yourself just "someone," do you?

I also find everyone else that's in BOLD too much, and wonder what motivated you to take such a strong stand on, essentially, a joke that fell flat. Engaging with a heckler results in something like this. It's time to stop digging, especially when some has already told you that there is no such banner in the Petersen Center.

And oh yeah, "Stockholm Syndrome?" :rolleyes:

[^ If I took that seriously, I'd say your a invocation of the term strikes me as indicative of you being more traumatized by Pitt than the people you seem to be calling out.]

PS - I liked reading how much you disliked Cooley's brand of basketball, but I agree with @HuskyHawk that refs didn't have it in them to call a half dozen fouls on Georgetown in the opening minutes. So long as that continues, the ugly basketball will continue. I do think that Ackerman could influence things; I don't expect it.

Take heart knowing that UConn fared better in the NCAAs during those Big East years when tough Pitt teams beat up on the Huskies. I think we'll continue to see UConn perform better than its bullybrawl conference mates, and I truly believe you agree with that.

We might not be able to do much more than hope that the team is being toughened for the long haul, and that injuries related to unchecked hard contact don't cause harm. And yes, it makes for a less pleasing entertainment product.

In case you haven't noticed, the subtext of the PS is that I'd much prefer engaging with you on points of agreement, than a lot of the goofy long balls you like to sling.
He wasn’t in full troll mode until that post lol you can tell who and when he’s baiting
 
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Not arguing with that. Of course they have. I didn't say they haven't.

Hurley had obvious reasons to talk about the down state of the program. I don't think I need to spell out why he would do that. And yes it was not in a good place or else Ollie wouldn't have gotten fired.

I'll agree the program was down but "dumpster fire" is hyperbole. I guess it's all relative from the height of the program in the almost 30 years before that but in Ollie's last 2 seasons the team was 16-17 (9-9 in conference) and 14-18 (7-11). Not good but not "dumpster fire" bad. Dumpster fire is what has been going on at Georgetown and DePaul the last few years. UConn was never that bad and it was only 2 years the program was down. Hardly "dumpster fire".
It was a dumpster fire. We were getting trounced by weak opponents and lost back to back games to Wagner and Northeastern. It was a shocking quick collapse for a program that had just won it all a couple seasons before. Hurley was shocked at just how bad things were when he took over.
 
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He wasn’t in full troll mode until that post lol you can tell who and when he’s baiting
As long as you can elude him when you're wearing the "We're #1" T-shirt, you should be ok.

Wow that 2008-09 was your freshman year. Joy is joy.
 
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It was a dumpster fire. We were getting trounced by weak opponents and lost back to back games to Wagner and Northeastern. It was a shocking quick collapse for a program that had just won it all a couple seasons before. Hurley was shocked at just how bad things were when he took over.
Agree to disagree. Dumpster fire is a relative term so of course there will be disagreements on its definition and use to describe certain situations. I've seen Chicago termed a "dumpster fire". Is that true?

"Dumpster fire" is an informal term in the United States used to describe a catastrophically bad situation. It has appeared in metaphorical form as early as 2003, and picked up traction in 2010 in the world of sports.

 
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As long as you can elude him when you're wearing the "We're #1" T-shirt, you should be ok.

Wow that 2008-09 was your freshman year. Joy is joy.
Yeah, I’ve said before I was a student for the best 4 years the AD had. Fiesta bowl, two final fours and a championship, saw the freshmen who would then repeat as champions in 14, the women’s crazy win streak… very spoiled and lucky
 
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There always has to be that miserable SOB in every thread. Be miserable I’ll enjoy being ranked number 1, great for our team to experience it and for Hurley to experience it.
 
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Not arguing with that. Of course they have. I didn't say they haven't.

Hurley had obvious reasons to talk about the down state of the program. I don't think I need to spell out why he would do that. And yes it was not in a good place or else Ollie wouldn't have gotten fired.

I'll agree the program was down but "dumpster fire" is hyperbole. I guess it's all relative from the height of the program in the almost 30 years before that but in Ollie's last 2 seasons the team was 16-17 (9-9 in conference) and 14-18 (7-11). Not good but not "dumpster fire" bad. Dumpster fire is what has been going on at DePaul the last few years. UConn was never that bad and it was only 2 years the program was down. Hardly "dumpster fire".
He went from NC in 2014 to that. He took a talented 2016 team nowhere and if you think his last season was bad, take a look at the recruits he had coming in. James Akinjo was talented but troubled. The rest were definitely well below our level—but definitely could have played for DePaul.

Hurley's first year he was sub-.500. I can't imagine a world in which KO wasn't also given Hurley kept everyone. And we'd have players like Kisunas instead of serviceable grad transfers.

It was already a dumpster fire, and there really wasn't much hope looking at the roster or the recruits for the foreseeable future. It was only going to go from a dumpster fire to a 1906 San Francisco fire event. Thankfully the AD stepped in (even if the method, etc. wasn't how it could/should have gone).
 
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It’s why preseason rankings are relatively silly. Takes too long for unexpected performance for better or worse to move as fast as they should Up or down Maybe start ranking after 8-10 games. Obviously Seton Hall seems to deserve more recognition.
In preseason, Seton Hall was ranked 56th in KenPom. After 10 games, Seton Hall was 6-4 (0-4 against high majors) with 3 losses to teams now outside the top 40 including one at home. Their only game against a top 40 team they lost by 18 on a neutral. Their best win at the time being #218 Northeastern. They were then ranked 88th.

Seton Hall isn't ranked not because of preseason stuff, but because of early season performance.
 
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If they were ranked where Marquette was ranked preseason they would be in the top 25.
It's an interesting hypothetical. Pre-season influence is essentially entirely gone at this point from the KenPom rankings (usually around Jan 20th is when it's completely phased out). If they started at 11th in KenPom they'd still be 64th today.

Ole Miss is the only team ranked in that KenPom range today, and it's mostly because they only have 1 loss. Ranked 13th in WAB as a measurement of their record quality. The other top 25 teams outside the top 40 in KenPom (Memphis #45, Utah St #41) are both top 13 in WAB also.

Seton Hall is #43 in WAB. If you have a bad KenPom and want to be ranked, you need to have few losses or at least few mediocre/bad losses.
 

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Agree to disagree. Dumpster fire is a relative term so of course there will be disagreements on its definition and use to describe certain situations. I've seen Chicago termed a "dumpster fire". Is that true?
I think your argument belittles Hurley's achievement.
 
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Agree to disagree. Dumpster fire is a relative term so of course there will be disagreements on its definition and use to describe certain situations. I've seen Chicago termed a "dumpster fire". Is that true?

"Dumpster fire" is an informal term in the United States used to describe a catastrophically bad situation. It has appeared in metaphorical form as early as 2003, and picked up traction in 2010 in the world of sports.

Now that you've posted the definition I couldn't be more sure it applies. Just because we approached the level of dumpster fire so quickly doesn't mean we didn't get there
 
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Not arguing with that. Of course they have. I didn't say they haven't.

Hurley had obvious reasons to talk about the down state of the program. I don't think I need to spell out why he would do that. And yes it was not in a good place or else Ollie wouldn't have gotten fired.

I'll agree the program was down but "dumpster fire" is hyperbole. I guess it's all relative from the height of the program in the almost 30 years before that but in Ollie's last 2 seasons the team was 16-17 (9-9 in conference) and 14-18 (7-11). Not good but not "dumpster fire" bad. Dumpster fire is what has been going on at DePaul the last few years. UConn was never that bad and it was only 2 years the program was down. Hardly "dumpster fire".
Let's look at this another way. UConn got beat by 20 or more points EIGHT times in Ollie's last season. In the 100 plus years prior to that season no other UConn team had lost by 20 or more points more than FIVE times. In essence, that team got blown out by big margins far more than any other team in program history.

You say it wasn't a dumpster fire. The results beg to differ.
 

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After reading this thread, if I saw an actual dumpster fire I'd probably think that "yes, it is a dumpster on fire, but I wouldn't necessarily call it a dumpster fire".
 
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The best part about being #1 is we no longer have to hear about how it’s been 15 years since we were last ranked #1.
 

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