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November General CBB Discussion Thread (Non-BE)

upstater said:
Do you really think it's the coaching?

O'Brien did an excellent job with PSU football in his few years there, and he was a pretty good HC with the Houston Texans.

It's something else. The school is not going to spend with the other schools. They're going to take in revenue instead.
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A couple years ago I sat next to Dana Barros at the Garden and we were talking BC and UConn basketball. He said that BC's president and administration don't put an emphasis on winning and that's why their athletic department is not doing well. But then you have hockey and women's lacrosse so why do they have strong programs? Why would you not want your revenue sports to succeed? They also made a hefty investment to hire Bill O'Brien so I'm not sure what is true. It's definitely true that their fan base isn't that strong or dedicated to BC. That's usually where everything starts.
 
JwittersPAC said:
Perhaps CCSU should replace DePaul in the Big East.
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Can you imagine how good CCSU could be with just an extra million a year. We could be in America East and compete with Vermont, Yale, etc.as true National mid-major if we could only get some real financial support.

I love UConn fans complaining they don't get ACC money, while Central can't afford recruiting trips or a more than 2 media person across the whole department.

UConn basketball program support is larger than our entire athletic department. We appreciate the love from UConn supporters, but we could use some $$$$ too! 😁
 
CCSU97 said:
Can you imagine how good CCSU could be with just an extra million a year. We could be in America East and compete with Vermont, Yale, etc.as true National mid-major if we could only get some real financial support.

I love UConn fans complaining they don't get ACC money, while Central can't afford recruiting trips or a more than 2 media person across the whole department.

UConn basketball program support is larger than our entire athletic department. We appreciate the love from UConn supporters, but we could use some $$$$ too! 😁
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Well, as you know, there’s levels to this
 
CL82 said:
All of them. They made tens of millions of dollars more per year in media distributions. The fact that many of them squandered that advantage doesn't mean that they didn't benefit from it.

Make no mistake about it, our being blackballed from the ACC was intended to financially cripple our athletic department and make us irrelevant. It didn't work out that way because of a commitment by the athletic department, the school, and the state to continue to compete at the highest level levels. I don't think that changes one bit if we had joined the ACC with Syracuse as originally planned. In all likelihood, our football program is a little bit further along, and I doubt our basketball programs would have been in any way hurt.
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I guess if the goal is more money and, for everyone not on this board, that is the goal. From a quality of program and on-field/court success, it has not been. BC is offering virtually free tickets and no one shows up. Good for their team getting more revenue from the ACC to get beat by CCSU in front of 2000 people.

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Deepster said:
I guess if the goal is more money and, for everyone not on this board, that is the goal. From a quality of program and on-field/court success, it has not been. BC is offering virtually free tickets and no one shows up. Good for their team getting more revenue from the ACC to get beat by CCSU in front of 2000 people.

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People love to make this argument, Deep, and I think it's a fallacy. Boston College isn't bad because it's in the ACC, it's bad because it's Boston College. We had a 20 some odd game winning streak against them when they were in the big east. They weren't bad because they were in the big east, they were bad because they're Boston College.

Similarly, when we won the 2014 national championship, we didn't win it because we were in the American, we won it despite being in the American. In my opinion, being in the ACC does not change our athletic department DNA. As a university, we are committed to competing for championships. Right now we are doing that handicapped, at least moneywise, in the big east. There's no reason to believe that that would end if we were competing on a level playing field by being a member of a P4 conference.
 
HooperScooper said:
A couple years ago I sat next to Dana Barros at the Garden and we were talking BC and UConn basketball. He said that BC's president and administration don't put an emphasis on winning and that's why their athletic department is not doing well. But then you have hockey and women's lacrosse so why do they have strong programs? Why would you not want your revenue sports to succeed? They also made a hefty investment to hire Bill O'Brien so I'm not sure what is true. It's definitely true that their fan base isn't that strong or dedicated to BC. That's usually where everything starts.
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BC is good in hockey because it doesn't take much effort to spend like other schools in Hockey East, they have great tradition, have had good coaches, and they have a natural recruiting base.

Father Monan was a big supporter of BC athletics. Father Leahy took over in 1996 but he is not really interested in BC athletics. He never show ups for games. Leahy retires in 2026 and the hope at BC is that his successor, Father Butler, will reinvigorate BC athletics.

The change in the college landscape with NIL, revenue sharing, and the transfer portal has really hit BC football and men's basketball. They were the only P5 (at the time) program to vote against revenue sharing and this year they did not invest nearly enough in their roster. O'Brien went 7-6 (4-4 ACC) last year and the team is 1-9 (0-6 ACC). Why the fall off? BC lost a couple of players and had some injuries, but they had no depth and they weren't able to fill roster holes in the portal. Imagine if UConn didn't rebuild the defense through the portal this year. It would have been a disaster.
 
CCSU97 said:
In the last 3 seasons, Pat Sellers has led CCSU to victory in 4 guarantee ($$$) games!!!!!

Dec. 21, 2023 - at Fordham (A-10) W, 82-80
Nov. 8, 2024 - at St. Joseph's (A-10) W, 73-67
Dec. 4, 2024 - at Massachusetts (A-10) W, 73-69
Nov. 11, 2025 - at Boston College (ACC) W, 60-59

Next up:
Nov. 16 at Massachusetts
Nov. 21 at Rutgers
Dec. 3 at Seton Hall
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A CCSU victory over Rutty after beating bcu would be monumental.
 
remember the scene in Ozark where Wendy leaves her brother in the restaurant, knowing full well what is on the horizon for him?
Im picturing the ACC trying to find a way to reenact that scene with the brother being BC.
 
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MilliniumPrince said:
A CCSU victory over Rutty after beating bcu would be monumental.
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Agreed, but first we take on UMass on Sunday (Nov. 16). That is a game we could/should win.

Central got its doors blown off way back in 1992 and 1993 against Calipari and Camby, but since then CCSU is 4-7 vs. UMass.

The Blue Devils beat Steve Lappas-led Minutemen two years in a row (2002 and 2003) at Mohegan Sun Arena. Then in one of the most memorable (and satisfying) non-conference home games in CCSU D-I history, on a cold January night in 2011, Dickenman's Blue Devils absolutely ran Derrek Kellogg and UMass out of New Britain, winning 92-63 in the only game ever played between the teams in Detrick Gymnasium.

Last year, Sellers led CCSU to a 73-69 victory, Central's only win in Amherst in 8 tries.
 
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