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Notre Dame 2025-2026 Regular-Season Thread.

Amari Byles Is Officially Irish
In the post below, Coach Ivey points to her frontcourt versatility as being a bonus for the Irish. There will be ample opportunity for she, Jacy Abii and Leah Macy (coming off rehab from knee surgery) to get PT, given Bella Ragone's recent knee injuries and impending rehab (geesh.)

 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this would make it two dual sport players on the team right?
Yes...kinda. Bella Tehrani (from Hamilton, Ohio, btw) played volleyball for the Irish for three years before joining the Irish hoopsters last semester. She's only playing hoops this year.
 

Ugh. Bella Ragone suffered a major knee injury in early November just prior to signing her letter of intent. It involves multiple CL's (A and M) and a displaced kneecap. This is very similar to the injury 2025's Leah Macy suffered. Ragone will have surgery performed on her by the LA Rams surgeon (her father is a coach for the Rams) in Los Angeles, then fly back home to Atlanta to begin her rehab.

Here's a link to a local article on the injury and her signing with ND. Outwardly, her attitude seems good. Best of luck on the upcoming surgery and impending rehab.
 
Well, ND played a legitimate team today and got crushed, 93-54 to Michigan.
Hidalgo went 4 of 21 (0-8 from 3) with 3 steals and 7 turnovers. It's different when you play a team with a pulse.
Proving why individual stats rarely are indicative of the best players. Would Hidalgo have these stats on a balanced team like S. Carolina or Ucon…or even Michigan? If anything, she was a detriment to her team today.
 
I didn't expect ND to win this game, but what they were doing out there was disappointing. I don't know if Niele has the chops to construct an offense that this team can run. I really hope I'm wrong, but just disappointing.
 
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I didn't expect ND to win this game, but what they were doing out there was disappointing. I don't know if Niele has the chops to construct an offense that this team can run. I really hope I'm wrong, but just disappointing.
Niele has very little to work with. Their only 2 viable subs are coming back from injury. The other 2 are walk-ons.
Of course, as head coach, she should be held accountable for the personnel situation.
Imo, she has underachieved as head coach at Notre Dame. She's had Citron, Westbeld, Miles, Mabrey, Hidalgo, Bransford, Prosper, etc.,and never made it past the Sweet Sixteen.
They have an excellent recruiting class coming in, but the previous two years have been very short on numbers. Then there's the mutiny by a number of players who jumped ship. That situation is still unexplained.
All of these problems lead directly to the front door of the head coach.
 
Niele has very little to work with. Their only 2 viable subs are coming back from injury. The other 2 are walk-ons.
Of course, as head coach, she should be held accountable for the personnel situation.
Imo, she has underachieved as head coach at Notre Dame. She's had Citron, Westbeld, Miles, Mabrey, Hidalgo, Bransford, Prosper, etc.,and never made it past the Sweet Sixteen.
They have an excellent recruiting class coming in, but the previous two years have been very short on numbers. Then there's the mutiny by a number of players who jumped ship. That situation is still unexplained.
All of these problems lead directly to the front door of the head coach.
How many coaches (even the “elite”) make the Elite Eight in their first five years?
 
Niele has very little to work with. Their only 2 viable subs are coming back from injury. The other 2 are walk-ons.
Of course, as head coach, she should be held accountable for the personnel situation.
Imo, she has underachieved as head coach at Notre Dame. She's had Citron, Westbeld, Miles, Mabrey, Hidalgo, Bransford, Prosper, etc.,and never made it past the Sweet Sixteen.
They have an excellent recruiting class coming in, but the previous two years have been very short on numbers. Then there's the mutiny by a number of players who jumped ship. That situation is still unexplained.
All of these problems lead directly to the front door of the head coach.
True.

Poor recruiting will haunt next year's team as well. This year's roster will lose 6 players, most of them graduate transfers. Niele will need to hit the transfer portal in a big way again next spring/summer.
 
What I saw was an incomplete team getting outplayed by a less incomplete team. The core of ND is strong — Hanna Cass KK and Vanessa — but after that it’s just spare parts. Above all, ND lacks a strong presence in the post. After Cass, who is more a wing than a post, Niele doesn’t have much to turn to.

Hannah may have shot poorly, mainly because Mich has the guards to run with her. And the 7 TOs was a lot. But she is clearly the heart and soul of this team and she doesn’t shirk the responsibility. The amazing thing about her is that she always plays her heart out in every game. Her intensity is always incandescent. Find fault with her if you like, but she is an amazing player, and a formidable court presence in every game.

Michigan is built around Olson and Swords and that is a formidable core. They have a medium big post player and a speedy little PG. But it all comes down to Olson and Swords.
 
How many coaches (even the “elite”) make the Elite Eight in their first five years?
Niele took over one of the top 3 wcbb teams from Muffet. How many coaches fall into that category ?
A better comparison would be with Holly Watlick. But there's a huge amount of luggage that comes along with that comparison.
 
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I thought from the very beginning that Notre Dame was going to be in serious trouble. They aren't very deep, they don't have a ton of size, and there is a huge drop off in talent after Hidalgo. This team is going to need her to score 30-35 points and play her ass off on defense every night to have any chance of winning games. I could honestly see this team finishing as low as tenth in the ACC and being an eight or a nine seed in the tournament. Niel better hope and pray that Hidalgo doesn't get hurt or this team won't make the tournament. Looking ahead, I don't think this team is going to very good next year either. They have nine seniors on their roster out of the twelve players and only five recruits coming in. I know there 2026 class is highly touted but it's going to be hard for them to win games with Hidalgo and a bunch of freshmen on the team. They better hit the transfer portal hard to fill in that roster or they are going be in trouble. I wouldn't be shocked either if Hidalgo hit the portal at the end of the season either. She wants to win and isn't going to be satisfied by playing on average/below average team.
 
What I saw was an incomplete team getting outplayed by a less incomplete team. The core of ND is strong — Hanna Cass KK and Vanessa — but after that it’s just spare parts. Above all, ND lacks a strong presence in the post. After Cass, who is more a wing than a post, Niele doesn’t have much to turn to.

Hannah may have shot poorly, mainly because Mich has the guards to run with her. And the 7 TOs was a lot. But she is clearly the heart and soul of this team and she doesn’t shirk the responsibility. The amazing thing about her is that she always plays her heart out in every game. Her intensity is always incandescent. Find fault with her if you like, but she is an amazing player, and a formidable court presence in every game.

Michigan is built around Olson and Swords and that is a formidable core. They have a medium big post player and a speedy little PG. But it all comes down to Olson and Swords.
And it's a group that is learning to play together as KK was out and Vanessa played for Duke last season. Factor in transfers like Moore, who isn't fully healthy, this team is still in the storming phase as they say for team building. I'm waiting for conference play to see how this team performs overall.
 
Niele took over one of the top 3 wcbb teams from Muffet. How many coaches fall into that category ?
A better comparison would be with Holly Watlick. But there's a huge amount of luggage that comes along with that comparison.
It was not a top 3 team when she took over. The program collapsed in muffet’s last year and then she had a Covid shutdown. Not saying she is a great coach? But she had only has had a few years at the helm,

But then again, how many coaches have succeeded in taking over after a top coach? Leon Barwick is about the only one and that was in the dawn of modern wbb .
 
It was not a top 3 team when she took over. The program collapsed in muffet’s last year and then she had a Covid shutdown. Not saying she is a great coach? But she had only has had a few years at the helm,

But then again, how many coaches have succeeded in taking over after a top coach? Leon Barwick is about the only one and that was in the dawn of modern wbb .
I stand corrected. I should have said a top 3 program, not team. When Niele took over.
Do you think the ND over performed, under performed or performed as expected last year ?
 
This looks like a three year rebuild. The thing I’m watching this year is if ND improves throughout the season, which they decidedly didn’t do last year.
 
This looks like a three year rebuild. The thing I’m watching this year is if ND improves throughout the season, which they decidedly didn’t do last year.
I certainly hope it isn't a three-year rebuild. Only four of the relevant talent is coming back next year to join a top-notch recruiting class. Or, if you prefer, that class will join senior Hannah Hidalgo and KK Bransford, as well as Leah Macy. I'm not basing the season on a blow-out loss to a team that returned 70% of their scoring and caught the Irish unprepared for the level of play needed.

Like you, I'll look for growth this year, but I think Bransford is a genuine starter in most programs and Hannah is still Hannah, who will do awfully well with players like Jacy Abii, Macy and Amari Byles.
 
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Hey, I now interrupt this normally-basketball oriented thread to draw attention to the tail end of another womens' team at Notre Dame: soccer. The Irish are entertaining Ohio State in a second round NCAA game on Thursday. Often, ND sports information produces pieces on their athletes and this one features forward Ellie Hodsden, who is the first forward off the bench. Last year, she made All-ACC frosh team and she's got 7 or 8 goals this year. Inspiring piece....

 
ND Beats USC at Home on Hidalgo Jumper with 1.9 Seconds Left
This wasn't pretty by any means, but ND got a much-needed victory, holding the Trojans to 8 points in the fourth quarter (while scoring 15 themselves). Overall, USC had 21 turnovers and 16 of those were steals by the Irish. Hannah HIdalgo led the way with 5 steals, Cassan Prosper had 3 and KK Bransford had 4 steals and 3 blocks. Hidalgo led ND with 22, Vanessa DeJesus had 13 (11 in the first half) and Bransford 11, most of which came in the 2nd half.
Here's the winning shot:
 
ND Beats USC at Home on Hidalgo Jumper with 1.9 Seconds Left
This wasn't pretty by any means, but ND got a much-needed victory, holding the Trojans to 8 points in the fourth quarter (while scoring 15 themselves). Overall, USC had 21 turnovers and 16 of those were steals by the Irish. Hannah HIdalgo led the way with 5 steals, Cassan Prosper had 3 and KK Bransford had 4 steals and 3 blocks. Hidalgo led ND with 22, Vanessa DeJesus had 13 (11 in the first half) and Bransford 11, most of which came in the 2nd half.
Here's the winning shot:

Excellent that ND took down #11 USC. A win is a win. But the loss at Michigan has me very confused. It seems this ND team is still learning to play as a team, or USC hasn't figured out how to play together, or nobody has any idea how good or bad they are yet.

Imo it will take ten or so more games to get a better read. The next game is Central Michigan which ND has better win, then it gets interesting with Mississippi then Florida State (a conference game in early December??). In summary glad ND won but I don't know what's going on yet, I should have just said that.
 
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The early season schedule is propped up by erroneous rankings.
To wit:
Duke was preseason rank #7 due to their Elite 8 run last year and bring in a good recruiting class but they lost Okananwa and then lost to Baylor who got a big rank bump without really proving anything- they lost this week to Iowa. Duke has now lost to WVU and USF so how good is that Baylor win?
NC State beat an over ranked #8 Tennessee but then lost to SoCal but the voters incorrectly jumped SC up way too much. SoCal got stomped at home vs SCar and now lost at ND. NC State has since lost to TCU at home, so were they worthy of that preseason #9 rank and the boost it gave SoCal and TCU?
My point is the early (and sometimes bad rankings) over inflate wins. ND will undoubtedly get a bump for beating what we now know is a merely good SoCal team.

Due to the shear number of shabby OOC games with the better teams stomping mid major teams by 50+ points, the voters over rank teams, beating up on Akron, Chicago State and FDU did ND no favors when they played a legit P4 team.
ND plays Central Michigan next, then Ole Miss, FSU, Moorhead and JMU so that’s 1 good P4 team, one mediocre P4, and 3 mid majors with significantly less talent. I just hope the voters use some better assessment skills, not only for ranking ND but for many of the early over ranked teams.

The gist is ND won tonight but is really SoCal top 11 team? I think not….but hey, Irish fans tout this win all you can as those who pay attention know this will be a down year for you….
 
ND Beats USC at Home on Hidalgo Jumper with 1.9 Seconds Left
This wasn't pretty by any means, but ND got a much-needed victory, holding the Trojans to 8 points in the fourth quarter (while scoring 15 themselves). Overall, USC had 21 turnovers and 16 of those were steals by the Irish. Hannah HIdalgo led the way with 5 steals, Cassan Prosper had 3 and KK Bransford had 4 steals and 3 blocks. Hidalgo led ND with 22, Vanessa DeJesus had 13 (11 in the first half) and Bransford 11, most of which came in the 2nd half.
Here's the winning shot:

That was a great game! I loved the back and forth how both teams competed. Congrats on the win.
 
The early season schedule is propped up by erroneous rankings.
To wit:
Duke was preseason rank #7 due to their Elite 8 run last year and bring in a good recruiting class but they lost Okananwa and then lost to Baylor who got a big rank bump without really proving anything- they lost this week to Iowa. Duke has now lost to WVU and USF so how good is that Baylor win?
NC State beat an over ranked #8 Tennessee but then lost to SoCal but the voters incorrectly jumped SC up way too much. SoCal got stomped at home vs SCar and now lost at ND. NC State has since lost to TCU at home, so were they worthy of that preseason #9 rank and the boost it gave SoCal and TCU?
My point is the early (and sometimes bad rankings) over inflate wins. ND will undoubtedly get a bump for beating what we now know is a merely good SoCal team.

Due to the shear number of shabby OOC games with the better teams stomping mid major teams by 50+ points, the voters over rank teams, beating up on Akron, Chicago State and FDU did ND no favors when they played a legit P4 team.
ND plays Central Michigan next, then Ole Miss, FSU, Moorhead and JMU so that’s 1 good P4 team, one mediocre P4, and 3 mid majors with significantly less talent. I just hope the voters use some better assessment skills, not only for ranking ND but for many of the early over ranked teams.

The gist is ND won tonight but is really SoCal top 11 team? I think not….but hey, Irish fans tout this win all you can as those who pay attention know this will be a down year for you….
Given that most of the folks who post in this thread are "those who pay attention," perhaps the "tout this win all you can" is a bit sardonic by half, but point taken. 😎 for the uninitiated.

  • Your point about erroneous (or inflated/misplaced) rankings is spot on.
  • In the case of many teams like USC or Notre Dame, there are also a lot of new players to mesh and gel. You can see it on the floor. USC has talent, but they're missing a -- say -- Kayleigh Heckel to make sense of it all.
  • ND has no post presence or outside shooting, so they're best relying on chaos so their three athletes (Hidalgo, Bransford, Prosper) can get to the hoop or help in other ways. I, for one, am on record everywhere as calling this a "bridge year" and I'll stick with it. It was still an entertaining win.
 
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The early season schedule is propped up by erroneous rankings.
To wit:
Duke was preseason rank #7 due to their Elite 8 run last year and bring in a good recruiting class but they lost Okananwa and then lost to Baylor who got a big rank bump without really proving anything- they lost this week to Iowa. Duke has now lost to WVU and USF so how good is that Baylor win?
NC State beat an over ranked #8 Tennessee but then lost to SoCal but the voters incorrectly jumped SC up way too much. SoCal got stomped at home vs SCar and now lost at ND. NC State has since lost to TCU at home, so were they worthy of that preseason #9 rank and the boost it gave SoCal and TCU?
My point is the early (and sometimes bad rankings) over inflate wins. ND will undoubtedly get a bump for beating what we now know is a merely good SoCal team.

Due to the shear number of shabby OOC games with the better teams stomping mid major teams by 50+ points, the voters over rank teams, beating up on Akron, Chicago State and FDU did ND no favors when they played a legit P4 team.
ND plays Central Michigan next, then Ole Miss, FSU, Moorhead and JMU so that’s 1 good P4 team, one mediocre P4, and 3 mid majors with significantly less talent. I just hope the voters use some better assessment skills, not only for ranking ND but for many of the early over ranked teams.

The gist is ND won tonight but is really SoCal top 11 team? I think not….but hey, Irish fans tout this win all you can as those who pay attention know this will be a down year for you….
I agree with your ranking thoughts. Pre-season rankings are hard to get right, because you truly never know. I don't know or care what ND will be ranked after this game, just glad they won. We know this year will be a little rough, but it's good to see improvements from last weekend. That's all you can ask for.
 
Really happy with the game! A few thoughts:
1. This team pulled out a win and still hasn't fully incorporated Moore and Cowles yet. Moore specifically I think can provide some outside shooting this team needs, and she can score. Cowles is the low post presence we need. She was posting hard yesterday, but we didn't get her the ball.
2. Proud of Hannah for the end of the game yesterday. She had a a couple of drives she dished off that I thimk last week she could've forced up. And assist to KK and an open 3 to Prosper that missed. She hit the big shot that counted though (which was very contested by Smith).
3. KK! She was pretty quiet all game until the 4th. That's when I started to notice her physicality. She had a good defensive play where she forced Smith to fade away in the post. Smith is physical as they come too. She muscled up some tough shots too. Wish she had a little bit more confidence in the 3 ball, because she had a couple open looks. I hope this game is a building block for her.
3. VDJ, I wasn't expecting her to be the primary defender on Davidson. She did a pretty good job. Her 3's in the first half were important. We really need her experience and ball handling to keep Hannah fresh. She is another feisty defender that was causing turnovers.
4. The defense was great. Hannah and VDJ were harassing the ball handlers in the second half. KK and Prosper were then blowing up the passes. Who needs half court offense when you can get into transition? Well defense is this teams best offense. I'm always a half court offense complainer, but they were trying some different looks. They were responding better to Hannah getting hedged on screens.
 
I certainly hope it isn't a three-year rebuild. Only four of the relevant talent is coming back next year to join a top-notch recruiting class. Or, if you prefer, that class will join senior Hannah Hidalgo and KK Bransford, as well as Leah Macy. I'm not basing the season on a blow-out loss to a team that returned 70% of their scoring and caught the Irish unprepared for the level of play needed.

Like you, I'll look for growth this year, but I think Bransford is a genuine starter in most programs and Hannah is still Hannah, who will do awfully well with players like Jacy Abii, Macy and Amari Byles.
I was at the game last night. So, it was my first “look test”.

The defensive effort was there all game, which is the reason we won. I was pleasantly surprised how we responded down 11 in the 3rd. I thought it was over, as up to that point USC looked like the more talented and more athletic team. They look like a UCONN team-lean, quick, good shooters.

Bransford was really disappointing in the first half to the point that I thought she was winded and out of shape, but she looked like a completely different player in the 2nd half running the court, hitting open shots and playing a good full court game. Perhaps by habit, and being out for a year, she still goes inside and picks up her dribble like she’s back in high school and she can just muscle through. She gets in trouble when she’s surrounded by taller players in the paint and picking up her dribble.

Prosper gives great effort, but will never be a consistent scorer. She’s so physical on the defensive side, and can contribute on hustle plays and a few layups, but that’s her ceiling as I see it.

I liked Cowles leadership. On an early, poorly thrown post pass to her, she told the player to throw a bounce pass, and then was actively calling for the ball in the 4th. She wanted the ball, which is a good sign.

DeJesus gave a great defensive effort all night and protected the ball She’s really solid and strong for her height. If she can hit outside shots like she did last night consistently, we’ll be alright with her.

Sanchez has the height and moves fairly well, but I don’t see her as a 4 as a shooter, and she’s not ferocious. She is tall and doesn’t turn the ball over, but she’s got a long way to go as a player to be a meaningful force.

Hannah is great in the clutch. Awesome. She will always score. However, I’ll use a little Marcus Freeman language here: She doesn’t always win the interval. There were more than a few times last night when she had open players on the wing who, if given a good pass could have gone straight up and shot and hopefully scored, bu HH threw the ball at their feet where they had to reach low and that let the defense recover. I hope Ivey can be effective improving HH’s game, because she CAN get better.

Anyway, it was a good comeback win. ND has a great home crowd advantage and it was good to see the team reward the fans with the win.
 
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ND Outlasts Central Michigan, 83-61; Heads into 10-Day Break Before Ole Miss Game

For me, this game underscores what ND fans/observers largely saw in (the better parts of) the U.S.C. game: this year's version of ND does best when they get the game chaotic (sloppy, back and forth, pick your poison). Last night, this is what transpired:
  • Points off Turnovers: ND 35 (20 in first half), CMU 10 (0 at half)
  • Pts. off Fast Breaks: ND 28 (14 each half), CMU 0
  • Pts. in Paint: ND 48 (28 in 1st half), CMU 18
  • Turnovers: ND 10, CMU 35

Hannah Hidalgo had 6 steals and Iyana Moore 5 to lead the Irish in the pilfer department. Now, Central Michigan just tossed a number of balls out, but ND had a lot to do with helping cause a remarkable 35 turnovers.

Offensively, Moore made a solid step forward, hitting 4-8 from three (that's all she shot) and Gisela Sanchez drilled 2-3. She may have the best form on the team.

Ole Miss, as this board knows, plays a very physical brand of ball. If ND can withstand the athletic nature of that team and keep the scrums static, improved three-point shooting will help. Big time.
 
Thoughts on Ole Miss.

If HH hadn't played like a NPOY for 3/4 of the 1st half of the game, this would have been a 20 point loss.

Thankfully, she is capable of playing like that for almost a half, but she can't play like that consistently for the entire game, and the rest of the team can't pick up the slack. Will she have a few 40 point games? Probably. We're gonna need them to get into the tourney.

The only reliable scorer besides HH is Cowles. She is strong enough to establish position and score.

The rest of the squad simply can't score consistently. It would be different if we had a Mabrey as the second guard, but we don't. It would be different if we had another Cowles, but we don't. It might be different if we had an offense that was based on cuts, attention to hitting the roller and good team passing, but we don't.

I feel bad for the fanbase that thought/hoped Bransford was like the Ole Miss (and Ohio State transfer) Cotie McMahon, who had 22 points using her athleticism and shooting ability to score, but she's not that. Substitute McMahon for Bransford and we win the game.

I said before the season that I'd base Ivey's evaluation on development. Bransford and Prosper have been in the program for three years. Is it likely they will develop their game? I hope so, but I'm doubtful. Will de Jesus be able to shoot like any of the Mabrey's. We'll see, but it's not looking good. Sanchez looks to have the ability to improve her scoring. She would really benefit from being in a structured offense, but that's not us. The downside is that whatever offense she can generate is countered by her defensive and defensive rebounding liabilities. Can Ivey make her tougher, stronger inside? We'll see. Moore looks like a player needing an offensive system also. I don't see her beating people off the dribble and scoring.

The ACC is down. We'll make the tourney, but this team isn't going anywhere in the big scheme of former NC capable ND teams. I hope I'm wrong, but I've seen enough of Ivey's offense to know that it requires lots of scorers with individual ball skills to create their shots and we don't have that. The bigger question is if Ivey, even with more talent, can get beyond the sweet 16. She couldn't last year with 4 WNBA players. If I'm the AD, I'm wondering how much she can develop as an offensive strategist to get her over the hump. When I heard the announcers say that, while up 17, she told her players to push the ball up the court, I thought "it's gonna get reckless", and it it did.
 
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I found myself wondering about the loss of Emma Risch and its cost to this squad.
 
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