Notre Dame 2024-25 Season

[DallasDomer]

It took ND the first quarter to get rolling against Boston College at the Conte Forum but the game ended ND 89- BC 63. Several McGraws Bench folks attended the game and had difficulty and delays in getting there, so if you go allow lots of time along with new shock absorbers.

No surprise that Hidalgo led the scoring with 23. Apparently Westbeld drew the ire of the refs with 4 fouls in under 20 minutes. You'd have to watch the replay to decide for yourself. I thought the last foul was imaginary but...


I did go through and watched the four fouls they called on Westbeld at
2:52 in 2q
7:47 in 3q
6:37 in 3q
9:26 in 4q

There's nothing to do about it but the second and fourth fouls didn't happen. Somehow she and Coach Ivey need to find ways to avoid those calls or she isn't going to be in when she's needed. Very sad state of the women's refs in general.

 

[cancontent]

This should be cool when it comes out.

 

[DallasDomer]

It took ND the first quarter to get rolling against Boston College at the Conte Forum but the game ended ND 89- BC 63. Several McGraws Bench folks attended the game and had difficulty and delays in getting there, so if you go allow lots of time along with new shock absorbers.

No surprise that Hidalgo led the scoring with 23. Apparently Westbeld drew the ire of the refs with 4 fouls in under 20 minutes. You'd have to watch the replay to decide for yourself. I thought the last foul was imaginary but...


I did go through and watched the four fouls they called on Westbeld at
2:52 in 2q
7:47 in 3q
6:37 in 3q
9:26 in 4q

There's nothing to do about it but the second and fourth fouls didn't happen. Somehow she and Coach Ivey need to find ways to avoid those calls or she isn't going to be in when she's needed. Very sad state of the women's refs in general.

I've been told that ND has requested an official scorer review of this game. It showed Hidalgo with 1 steal but if you watch there are at least 3 probably 5 steals by Hannah.

What is going on with the officials?

 

[DallasDomer]

Another Notre Dame win over Louisville and another ND player elbowed in the nose on a flagrant foul. Does Walz teach how to do these things or does he recruit for players that swing elbows?

Liatu King was the victim this time, she had a double double with 16 points and 12 rebounds before the flagrant foul by Nyla Harris and you know it was bad because their home crowd didn't complain. Unfortunately I'd guess King will sit out the Stanford game and then use a face mask until the damage heals. Final was ND 89 L 71, Hidalgo had 34. Actually ND played terribly but they often do in that arena.

Notre Dame 89-71 Louisville (Feb 2, 2025) Box Score - ESPN

Box score for the Notre Dame Fighting Irish vs. Louisville Cardinals NCAAW game from February 2, 2025 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.

www.espn.com

 

[cancontent]

Another Notre Dame win over Louisville and another ND player elbowed in the nose on a flagrant foul. Does Walz teach how to do these things or does he recruit for players that swing elbows?

Liatu King was the victim this time, she had a double double with 16 points and 12 rebounds before the flagrant foul by Nyla Harris and you know it was bad because their home crowd didn't complain. Unfortunately I'd guess King will sit out the Stanford game and then use a face mask until the damage heals. Final was ND 89 L 71, Hidalgo had 34. Actually ND played terribly but they often do in that arena.

Notre Dame 89-71 Louisville (Feb 2, 2025) Box Score - ESPN

Box score for the Notre Dame Fighting Irish vs. Louisville Cardinals NCAAW game from February 2, 2025 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.

www.espn.com

And we're going to gloss over Karlen's clamping that earned an upgrade? Harris is lucky her shoulder wasn't dislocated. Neither play should have happened.

 

[Dillon77]

And we're going to gloss over Karlen's clamping that earned an upgrade? Harris is lucky her shoulder wasn't dislocated. Neither play should have happened.

@DallasDomer

I was playing in my Sunday morning hoops get-together and took a back-handed slap to my upper cheek, just under my eye.
Pretty usual for us plodding former wings now masquerading as power forwards. Wasn't intentional, but it stung for a bit and was most certainly a foul.

Only saw one replay for Karlen's play and couldn't really tell if it was intentional. Still it was a foul and almost resulted in harm (the Louisville player, lucikily, was able to return). And while I'm not sure Harris was going for the knockout swing with her elbow, it really wasn't necessary to do (she had the rebound), so she deserved the escalation, too.

There is bad blood between Louisville and Notre Dame. Remember, this was the first time Olivia Miles was playing on the court since she suffered an ACL tear. Tensions are always a bit high and were running under the surface today, even if no one would admit it.

ND usually doesn't play that well at the KFC Yum Center. Ironically, the best half of basketball they've ever played there was after Miles was injured and Sonia Citron had her first St. Soni performance, leading the Irish to the regular season ACC title.

But this game today was really sloppy. As Rebecca Lobo said: Who are these people dressed in the Irish uniforms?
But they were fine once King played again in the third quarter (until she was knocked out) and most importantly, Hidalgo either scored or assisted on 24 of the Irish 26 points in the late third, early fourth. When she gets like that, it's Hidalgo's world and everyone is just part of it. But she's playing within her team's constructs: when she jumped up and down for Cass Prosper to pass to Maddy Westbeld to take advantage of a size advantage, it showed me how in tune she is with the Irish O. The fact that Prosper then passed it to Hidalgo shows how much the players rely on her in crunch time. And she delivers.

 

[DallasDomer]

And we're going to gloss over Karlen's clamping that earned an upgrade? Harris is lucky her shoulder wasn't dislocated. Neither play should have happened.

Neither play should have happened. I couldn't see the clamp because of the replay and Harris was apparently fine because King was still bleeding when the game was done.

Why the ACC requires these teams to play twice a year is beyond me because more times than not a player is unable to finish. This doesn't happen with any other team and it happened with McGraw and Ivey. I will leave you to draw your own conclusions but I absolutely want to stop getting anyone injured.

 

[GoChips20]

For Notre Dame to have sleepwalked through most of this game and still scored 89 is a testament to both how good this offense is and how bad Louisville’s defense is.

Betts might be the most irreplaceable player in the country, but I am fully aboard the Hidalgo train for player of the year. The announcers said today it was her fourth 30-point game of the season. To average 26 points a game and only score 30+ four times is remarkable consistency. I would love to see a UCLA/ND matchup.

 

[WBBTakeover]

I'm all in for Hannah Hidalgo for NPOY (have been since the Southern Cal game). There's something to be said for a 5'6 guard who covers the ENTIRE floor on both sides of the ball. I've never seen a player like her, and I've been watching hoops for a long time.

 

[DallasDomer]

I did think of one positive from the Louisville game, it gave ND another quad 1 win moving to 6-2. But I've no idea what that means when other teams with 3-2, and 5-2 are above ND in NET rank. So just keep winning.

 

[visitingcock]

I did think of one positive from the Louisville game, it gave ND another quad 1 win moving to 6-2. But I've no idea what that means when other teams with 3-2, and 5-2 are above ND in NET rank. So just keep winning.

Quad considerations are not a factor in the rankings. Overall SOS is considered in the computer rankings.

Quads are a factor ( but only one of several) that can be considered by the committee to deviate from the rankings. Take SCar and UCLA and assume both win out. SCar will be No.1 in the raw computer rankings largely due to SOS . The Quads would seem to Wrap it up.

But wait. Head to head is another factor. There is no standard for weighting the factors so I believe the committee would put UCLA at number one. Not that it would really matter so long as they are different “regionals.”

 

[Frankus]

I thought the referees impacted the game, calling 40 turnovers. At one point I believe they called traveling on three straight possessions. It made for an ugly game.

Jeff W as usual worked the refs the entire game. Because they can't shoot we still beat them, but I wish NI would work the refs more. There's a skill to it and Geno, Dawn and Kim all do it. This should have been a 30+ point blowout.

Perhaps- given Lville's physical style and how we often leave there beat up- Maddy and Soni just wanted to get out of there healthy, but they both played poorly. They had 9 of our 23 turnovers, 6 of our 44 rebounds and only 10 of our 89 points. Not what you'd expect out of supposedly high WNBA draft picks.

With all that said we have Hannah, who had another NPOY performance. She's going to need a heckava lot more from Soni and Maddy down the road. As I've said previously, Liatu is the best possible portal pick up we needed. She proved it again last night. I hope she's OK.

Bring on Stanford.

 

[DallasDomer]

Quad considerations are not a factor in the rankings. Overall SOS is considered in the computer rankings.

Quads are a factor ( but only one of several) that can be considered by the committee to deviate from the rankings. Take SCar and UCLA and assume both win out. SCar will be No.1 in the raw computer rankings largely due to SOS . The Quads would seem to Wrap it up.

But wait. Head to head is another factor. There is no standard for weighting the factors so I believe the committee would put UCLA at number one. Not that it would really matter so long as they are different “regionals.”

With no standard for weighting the factors then I don't understand why the NET rankings changed to move ND up one. If head to head is important why is ND behind UConn, Texas, and until today Southern Cal.

I'm not expecting answers, I doubt I will be comfortable with the NET and what it means, so just keep winning.

 

[visitingcock]

With no standard for weighting the factors then I don't understand why the NET rankings changed to move ND up one. If head to head is important why is ND behind UConn, Texas, and until today Southern Cal.

I'm not expecting answers, I doubt I will be comfortable with the NET and what it means, so just keep winning.

I was not clear enough. There are the ratings. there are hundreds of thousands of factors that go into the daily generated computer ratings. .lIt’s a whole lot of data - that changes ever day, The ratings are derived from an algorithm that is programmed to weigh many different considerations in formulaic way. They are weighted in the algorithm objectively. Why was Notre dame behind Texas and UConn? There can be many reasons. Because you lost to lower ranked Utah and TCU. Margin of victory. Comparison of your opponents to theirs. Etc etc the objective element

When I spoke of “factors,”I was speaking of a more finite set of factors that the committee can use at the end of the day for ranking teams into the final seed. These can be used subjectively or ignored and can allow for much deviation from the NET rating established by the algorithm’s ratings

 

[Dillon77]