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I know Mercyhurst was small, but I was impressed with Koval's fundamentals. She has a nice touch for a big and didn't seem slow. Let's hope she can stay fundamentally strong against players her same height.

OM looked totally healthy. Her court vision is awesome. I suspect King-who is the athletic player we needed- and Citron will benefit the most and HH will do her thing with and without OM's help.

I still don't see Prosper as a long range shooter even as she hoisted a few, but thought her inside game was improved.

Rish was disappointing missing lots of wide open uncontested shots. Hope it was just a very off night. She also doesn't have Citron's athleticism. If she can't hit those kind of shots going forward in the exhibition season she's not going to get a lot of playing time.

Very excited about our depth!
 
All of my limited mental images of Hidalgo include the ball, either in her hands or being taken from the opponent who has it. How is she doing at playing off the ball on offense?
 
Alydar said:
All of my limited mental images of Hidalgo include the ball, either in her hands or being taken from the opponent who has it. How is she doing at playing off the ball on offense?
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She had 14 shot attempts yesterday to Miles' 12 attempts. Think she'll do just fine. Not to mention there will be times when they're not on the court at the same time like we saw yesterday.

I think people are overthinking the playing time with Miles returning this season. ND has done it before with guards like Ogunbiwale, Lloyd and Mabrey on the same roster. They'll make it work with the Hildalgo, Miles and Citron, when she's back on the court.
 
cancontent said:
*cough, Achonwa :(
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I'm only adding a "dislike" because that's yet another. One of the Irish's best teams was wracked by an NCAA Injury, much like the one to Bri Turner.

Let's hope Maddy Westbeld and Sonia Citron heal up early this time. Liz Karlen, too.
 
Dillon77 said:
I'm only adding a "dislike" because that's yet another. One of the Irish's best teams was wracked by an NCAA Injury, much like the one to Bri Turner.

Let's hope Maddy Westbeld and Sonia Citron heal up early this time. Liz Karlen, too.
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Expected the dislike. That ND squad was something else though. Was gutted for Achonwa.
 
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Dillon77 said:
I doubt Watson will be back this season, because she covered the curse of Notre Dame hoopsters --- late-season ACLs (see Turner, Brianna and Miles, Olivia).

However, I'm sure hoping that Citron is back for the UConn game. Karlen is probably a coin toss and the hope is that Westbeld gets back for the ACC part of the season. Soni vs. Paige is always great to watch.
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I’m sorry to hear another injury report. Healthy, this looks like one of the best rosters in D1. May they all heal quickly.


Frankus said:
I was impressed with Koval's fundamentals. She has a nice touch for a big and didn't seem slow.
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I was impressed too, though not by her speed. Koval is a touch lumbering. But her skills and her court sense seem excellent. There’s an economy in her movement that makes up for a lot. Plus, she seems to have excellent shot blocking technique and good low post scoring moves. She is one of the few freshmen anywhere who already looks D1 ready. I expect a great season from her.
 
ND Breaks Out Early at Purdue; Tops Century Mark Against Boilermakers, 102-58

Hannah Hidalgo and Liatu King affected the game both defensively and offensively in the first quarter and half. Hidalgo ended up with 28 points (on 10-20 shooting), 7 rebounds and 6 steals. King, the transfer from Pittsburgh, had 18 points (9-12 shooting), 15 rebounds and 4 steals.

Olivia Miles finished with 17 points, including a buzzer-beater three from beyond halfcourt; and Sonia Citron -- back in the lineup for the first time all season -- finished with 14 points (4-7 shooting from the field, 4-4 from the line) in 24 select minutes for Coach Niele Ivey.
Frosh Kate Koval stayed in the starting lineup and led the Irish with 4 assists and 4 blocks, while grabbing 10 rebounds.
Emma Risch shot 4-8 off the bench, while Cass Prosper went back to the bench, but still played 26 minutes.

ND has James Madison coming to South Bend this Thursday.
 
ND looks great but I wish Hidalgo could hit a shot without screaming and carrying on like she just won the NC.
 
Blueballer said:
ND looks great but I wish Hidalgo could hit a shot without screaming and carrying on like she just won the NC.
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Point taken. I've seen her play in person twice. She is genuinely "into it" and enjoys everything about the games, from scoring to pilfering the ball 6 times (that counted).

BTW, I was also brought up by father (Good Veterans Day to you, Dad) and coaches to "act like you've been there," but as an older, lumbering rec player now, I'll let out some "woo hoo's," for good plays, whether mine or others.

The other thing about Hidalgo's effervescence and energy: she revs up the rest of the team. I've seen Olivia Miles smile more in the two games with Hidalgo than she did in two years prior to that.

Knock on wood, I'm seeing the Irish (and Hidalgo for a third time) at Lafayette next Sunday. Will keep your comments in mind when I watch.
 
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Blueballer said:
ND looks great, but I wish Hidalgo could hit a shot without screaming and carrying on like she just won the NCAA championship.

If I were on the opposing team, I would either be offended or think she's immature. If I were on her team, I would be motivated by her antics or write it off as her being herself. I can't tell if she's genuinely that excited about every thing she does or if she's trying to pump up her team.

Either way, it probably helps her team more than it hurts, and if that's just how she is, I doubt we'll ever see her any other way. It has been successful for her to date, so I can't see her changing. If she bothers you, my only suggestion is don't watch her.
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DallasDomer said:
It is a demonstration of campus life and activities that they can look forward to. A Notre Dame football game with all the activity, people, fan support definitely makes an impression on a recruit. The Grotto, the march to the stadium, the food stalls on the quad, and the crowd itself.

You are vastly under selling the event Dillon. The recruit sees all those 60,000 people as potential supporters of the basketball team. A major college football weekend has to be seen to be believed Grew1992 if you have the chance to experience one I recommend it.

Yes it will definitely sway them. Or if they hate crowds and noise it might make them decide otherwise but I doubt that for a Div 1 athlete.
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I am a Chicago native. It was not even close. A 2 1/2 hour drive to South Bend for a game was much more desirable than seeing the Bears or any other team.
 
Blueballer said:
ND looks great but I wish Hidalgo could hit a shot without screaming and carrying on like she just won the NC.
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I think I pasted my comment in the wrong section so I'll try again. Sorry.
If I were on the opposing team, I would either be offended or think she's immature. If I were on her team, I would be motivated by her antics or write it off as her being herself. I can't tell if she's genuinely that excited about every thing she does or if she's trying to pump up her team.

Either way, it probably helps her team more than it hurts, and if that's just how she is, I doubt we'll ever see her any other way. It has been successful for her to date, so I can't see her changing. If she bothers you, my only suggestion is don't watch her.
 
Dillon77 said:
Olivia Miles Had a Heckuva First Week Back ....
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Well deserved. She looks totally healthy.

I see a lot of inquiries about Olivia and Hannah coexisting and here's what I see so far: Notre Dame is running a faster and quicker offense with the addition of Olivia and Liatu King. They are constantly pushing the ball upcourt. Sometimes it's Olivia and sometimes it's Hannah starting with the ball, but both are fast and talented to create or score quick buckets. When they do settle into a half court game, both Olivia and Hannah can beat their defenders off the dribble and either score or dish.
 
DallasDomer said:
I think I pasted my comment in the wrong section so I'll try again. Sorry.
If I were on the opposing team, I would either be offended or think she's immature. If I were on her team, I would be motivated by her antics or write it off as her being herself. I can't tell if she's genuinely that excited about every thing she does or if she's trying to pump up her team.

Either way, it probably helps her team more than it hurts, and if that's just how she is, I doubt we'll ever see her any other way. It has been successful for her to date, so I can't see her changing. If she bothers you, my only suggestion is don't watch her.
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Ah, the old "change the channel" argumant. Tough to do when you're a fan who wants to watch the top ranked teams. Hey, if she wants to look unprofessional that's on her. Have to disagree on the impact. I think what she does is a huge motivator for the other team more than ND. I have no problem with emotion but it can be overdone. I've seen many of these celebrating players do so at the expense of getting back on defense. Time will tell how well this goes over for her.
 
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Frankus said:
Well deserved. She looks totally healthy.

I see a lot of inquiries about Olivia and Hannah coexisting and here's what I see so far: Notre Dame is running a faster and quicker offense with the addition of Olivia and Liatu King. They are constantly pushing the ball upcourt. Sometimes it's Olivia and sometimes it's Hannah starting with the ball, but both are fast and talented to create or score quick buckets. When they do settle into a half court game, both Olivia and Hannah can beat their defenders off the dribble and either score or dish.
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Sonia Citron just had her first game back from a few weeks off dealing with an ankle injury. Once she gets in the groove, the fast break will look even more downhill to opponents.

Ditto for the halfcourt, particularly as Kate Koval adjusts to, well, everything (she's doing pretty well thus far) and Liza Karlen and one Maddy Westbeld get back. Westbeld has been such a steady force for the Irish for 4 years that she's sometimes taken for granted.
Her excellence will be an exclamation point for the Irish on all fronts: offense, defense and rebounding.
 
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Blueballer said:
Ah, the old "change the channel" argumant. Tough to do when you're a fan who wants to watch the top ranked teams. Hey, if she wants to look unprofessional that's on her. Have to disagree on the impact. I think what she does is a huge motivator for the other team more than ND. I have no problem with emotion but it can be overdone. I've seen many of these celebrating players do so at the expense of getting back on defense. Time will tell how well this goes over for her.
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I will try to note the opposing team's reaction I haven't noticed but I wasn't looking.

Agree with some not getting back but the major celebrations I've seen her do is on the floor after a foul. And I didn't mean to change the channel. I just meant to not notice her "antics". There's usually something else going on except sometimes they zoom in on her, I have no suggestions for that.
 
ND Doubles Up James Madison, 92-46; Koval Notches Double-Double

  • Kate Koval: 14 pts (5-7 from the field, 4-6 from FT line), 16 rebounds, 2 steals and 6 blocks in 30 minutes.
  • Hannah Hidalgo: 24 points (8-19 from field, 6-7 from FT line) 4 steals, 6 rebounds.
  • Olivia Miles, 16 points (4-7 from the field, 6-7 from FT line), 8 assists, 6 rebounds.

Liatu King, who had 11 points midway through the 3rd quarter, collided with some JMU players then the floor...hard. She left the floor under her own power with no limp, then the bench as she went to the ND locker room. She didn't return. We'll see.

Next game for Irish: Sunday afternoon @ Lafayette.
 
Domers figuring it out. Miles will be playmaker, Hidalgo the shooter. Room for both.

Koval off to a great start.

Hope they can stay healthy, as U$C and UConn games will be outstanding.
 
Dillon77 said:
Sonia Citron just had her first game back from a few weeks off dealing with an ankle injury. Once she gets in the groove, the fast break will look even more downhill to opponents.

Ditto for the halfcourt, particularly as Kate Koval adjusts to, well, everything (she's doing pretty well thus far) and Liza Karlen and one Maddy Westbeld get back. Westbeld has been such a steady force for the Irish for 4 years that she's sometime taken for granted.
Her excellence will be an exclamation point for the Irish on all fronts: offense, defense and rebounding.
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Sonia is interesting because she is going to be our main defensive stopper against taller elite guards due to her height, quickness and experience in key games. She did that last night against James Madison's best player, but her offense suffered. In the best of both world's she will also shoot well.

If not, we have Maddy and (hopefully) Emma Rish as dependable outside shooters who will benefit when defenses have to collapse to contain OM and HH.

I'm looking forward to Liza Karlen's return. In the meantime Kate Koval is getting lots of playing time to enhance her skills at game speed. We need Karlen as inside relief scoring and rebounding, and 5 extra fouls when those will matter against teams with dominant bigs.
 
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Willowglen said:
I am a Chicago native. It was not even close. A 2 1/2 hour drive to South Bend for a game was much more desirable than seeing the Bears or any other team.
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That's great for football. I worked with a NDame grad who told me that there was nothing like S Bend after a football victory but after a loss the only sound was "crickets".
NDame's identity revolves around football. UConn revolves around hoops and recruits see that.
 
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Alydar said:
That's great for football. I worked with a NDame grad who told me that there was nothing like S Bend after a football victory but after a loss the only sound was "crickets".
NDame's identity revolves around football. UConn revolves around hoops and recruits see that.
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It used to revolve around football until Digger and McGraw started winning. But basketball only holds ~10,000 vs football's 78,000 so there's a big difference in money, people, and the towns attitude. By the way ND is not in South Bend. ND is in Notre Dame Indiana with its own post office police etc. You have to go through SB to get there.
 
UConnCat said:
This point has needed to be made every year it seems. Thank you. Meaningless is the word to describe Massey preseason.
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After only a few games the Uconn strength of schedule has gotten worse, down to #27 for the year. Again this will change as teams move in the rankings but I was very surprised. The teams that drag Uconn down are:
Boston Univ #210
F Dickinson #203
Holy Cross #184
Georgetown #118
Providence #119
Marquette #82
Butler #75
Louisville dropping to #25 doesn't help either.

I'd say it's still too early to actually consider this as real but the drop surprised me.

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DallasDomer said:
After only a few games the Uconn strength of schedule has gotten worse, down to #27 for the year. Again this will change as teams move in the rankings but I was very surprised. The teams that drag Uconn down are:
Boston Univ #210
F Dickinson #203
Holy Cross #184
Georgetown #118
Providence #119
Marquette #82
Butler #75
Louisville dropping to #25 doesn't help either.

I'd say it's still too early to actually consider this as real but the drop surprised me.

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The Huskies would be happy to join ND in the ACC. Maybe the folks in South Bend can help us out by lobbying for it. ;)
 
oldude said:
The Huskies would be happy to join ND in the ACC. Maybe the folks in South Bend can help us out by lobbying for it. ;)
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How 'bout the yet to come Atlantic Division of the new PAC2?:D

I don't think U$C, ND and SC will drop much in rankings, we should be ok.
 
packwrap said:
How 'bout the yet to come Atlantic Division of the new PAC2?:D

I don't think U$C, ND and SC will drop much in rankings, we should be ok.
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That strikes me as trying to resurrect a corpse. No thanks.
 
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