Not To Jinx Us But

[RockyMTblue2]

I believe ONO want to major in Pre-Medicine

Uh-Oh.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

I actually find it encouraging when these highly talented players prioritize academics so highly. Rebecca and Kara Lawson didn't but Elizabeth Williams, Chiney & Neka Ogwumike , and Asia Durr did (not sure what happened there).

Williams was a basketball underachiever IMO and I always wondered if the academics were too much to also expect the best on the basketball court.

 

[triaddukefan]

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We're not exactly "chopped liver". Somebody ought to send ONO the latest U.S. News & World Report's latest rankings!! Not a Duke or Stanford, but certainly not lacking in academics!!

Yeah... one of yall should go ahead and do that.

 

[CocoHusky]

Williams was a basketball underachiever IMO and I always wondered if the academics were too much to also expect the best on the basketball court.

Might not have been the academics. Under that coach with the three initials that calls opposing players by their numbers has any player really "achieved"?

 

[Nuyoika]

Gotta disagree with you 0n this one: the percentage of kids getting college degrees and graduate degrees has inched upwards only slightly.

Have you also looked at how the wage gap between people with Bachelors and people without has changed? The cost of going to school is going up faster than the rate employers willing to pay meaning the overall value of a Bachelors degree has decreased. 50 or 60 years ago a degree really really meant something.

There was a time when a college degree almost guaranteed you a job. I wasn't alive during that time but I can tell you that employers care about you having a degree but it is along the same lines as you putting your name on the resume. It is just expected at this point. They are spending far more time on who you are as a person. Recruiters and organizations check your social media. They are doing cognitive & personality tests prior to the interviews. These things have become far more important than where you went to school.

 

[bags27]

Johnny one-note checking in again...

if you are intending to choose a school because of its pre-med program, generally speaking the most vigorous academic school is NOT the best bet for you. you will be in classes (organic??? oh no!!!!! the pre-med killer!!!!) with many of the most competitive students in your school and, because virtually all science courses are graded on a curve, your grades mercilessly reflect your class rank in the course. There is no escaping that most of the "normal" pre-meds make their calc, bio and chem courses their highest priorities in life. And yet, here you are doing those courses on top of the 5 hrs or so that you're putting into lifting and practice and then physical/mental recovery afterwards. Moreover, your friends are your teammates, but the "normal" pre-meds have pre-med friends to study with and buck up their morale when they get a 43 on a math exam which is actually a "B."

If you are a pre-med D-1 athlete, you are so very much better off going to a decent, though not top, academic school, where you at least stand a fighting chance at getting better science grades relative to your classmates and have pre-medical advisors who don't look at you as a lost cause. How many elite D-1 athletes does anyone here know of who has actually gone to med school (not just declaring pre-med, but getting into med school)? High schoolers with these aspirations say things which please themselves and please their parents, and the coaches love to hear it if it helps the kids make the "right" decision, but they are not, in fact, making the best decisions for themselves. Far from it.

 

[triaddukefan]

RockyMontana .... so what was this thread about ?

 

[Golden Husky]

I believe ONO want to major in Pre-Medicine

Calling Dr. Pulido.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Might not have been the academics. Under that coach with the three initials that calls opposing players by their numbers has any player really "achieved"?

I don't know of course. She compiled some pretty impressive stats, but never met my eye test on foot/hand speed and positioning, despite her big # of blocks. Too lazy to look at her TOs, but I recall her being pick prone.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

RockyMontana .... so what was this thread about ?

Premeddy Big Girls ... bad medicine?

 

[triaddukefan]

I don't know of course. She compiled some pretty impressive stats, but never met my eye test on foot/hand speed and positioning, despite her big # of blocks. Too lazy to look at her TOs, but I recall her being pick prone.

How many times did you see her play in college?

 

[RockyMTblue2]

How many times did you see her play in college?

Wild guess, somewhere between 15 and 25. I had this I can't look away thing for JPM's team and during basketball season I have the zillion sports channel package. PAC conference ruined it for them with their own network a couple of years ago.

 

[triaddukefan]

Wild guess, somewhere between 15 and 25. I had this I can't look away thing for JPM's team and during basketball season I have the zillion sports channel package. PAC conference ruined it for them with their own network a couple of years ago.

Between reruns of MASH and Falcon Crest... how do you find the time?

 

[meyers7]

Well, Nixon went to Whittier undergraduate and only to Duke Law School (which wasn't very good back then anyway), and Carter transferred TWICE, I think, before going the Annapolis, and Obama transferred to Columbia from Occidental, and Trump transferred from Fordham to Penn, and of course Bush only got into Yale because of family connections. So what that shows is ambition more than anything else.

But here's a better quiz. Putting aside Bill Bradley, how many graduates of the most competitive D-1 athletic programs in WCBB, MCBB, football, lacrosse and hockey have had obviously famous careers over the past (say) 40 years, aside from those related to sports? Back in the day, Gerald Ford, Whizzer White and Stephen Ambrose played football, but those were very, very different days. Ambrose was 2nd team All-Big 10 tackle at, I think, around 210 pounds!!!

My point is that if you're an elite high school athlete in these sports who wants to have a successful career at an equally elite level, most likely that career will be related to sports. So, you might as well go to the school that gives the best shot at being famous at that sport in college. In WCBB, is there really any place other than UConn? It's the Harvard, Yale, Stanford, and Princeton of WCBB rolled into one. (But I'm preaching to the choir on that!)

Perhaps you've heard of Minnesota Supreme Court Justice Alan Page (ND graduate). Or Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner. Dwayne Johnson (Miami). Jon Runyon. Dave Bing. Steve Largent. JC Watts.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Between reruns of MASH and Falcon Crest... how do you find the time?

I was Mashed out decades ago! But, yes, Falcon Crest forever!

 

[Husky pride]

Yeah... one of yall should go ahead and do that.

I guess I didn't give enough homage to Duke.
"........Duke grads work at better restaurants"
My apologies.

 

[Golden Husky]

I guess I didn't give enough homage to Duke.
"...Duke grads work at better restaurants"
My apologies.

There is at least one Duke grad all Bone Yarders like: Jay Bilas.

 

[triaddukefan]

There is at least one Duke grad all Bone Yarders like: Jay Bilas.

If you read his statements/opinions on UNC... Yall boneyarders might have change of heart

 

[Golden Husky]

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Is that Darnell Hillman?

 

[cbraarj]

Yeah... one of yall should go ahead and do that.

Troublemaker,lol!

 

[BigBird]

preference for strong academics....

Not saying that Duke and Stanford aren't great universities and obviously "stronger" academically than (say) UConn. Different missions, different endowments, etc. But who has ever actually evaluated precisely what courses athletes (specifically WCBB players) have taken, how well they've done in them, and what they do with those degrees post-graduate? I haven't either. But my strong sense is that playing top-level D-1 sports significantly limits academic opportunities (for example, no afternoon seminars; lower course loads and therefore make-up credit summer courses that are usually much less challenging and usually not taught by line faculty, etc). Also, elite teams tend to hang by themselves or only with a small circle of friends, so it's not like you profit from the social networking at academically "elite" schools.

You can get a fabulous education at a "less elite" school and a crappy one at a "top" school. It depends on you. But if you're committed to a life in which one thing is prioritized about all other (basketball), everything else is necessarily going to be a compromise. Thinking that you're going to get a "better education" at Duke or Stanford because they're more highly rated academically means that you somehow think you're going to be "smarter" just by going there. Breathing the air, right? Actually, it's drinking the Kool-Aid.... Rebecca Lobo didn't. Too bad she never amounted to anything....

Bags, my friend, you've nailed it again.

 

[cabbie191]

If basketball is not the number 1 career priority should UConn want that player?

Oh Rocky! I trust you said this in jest. Connecticut may have the most players that make it into the pros but they still make up a small minority of those who don the Husky uniform.

For those outstanding players below the Maya's and Diana's, their decision is hopefully a blend of wanting top caliber basketball experience and a solid education.

I agree with those who argue that you can get a great education at a "decent" school and a decent education at a great school.

 

[CL82]

If you read his statements/opinions on UNC... Yall boneyarders might have change of heart

Link?

 

[DaddyChoc]

For those of you like Charlie who really know this stuff: Who are we going to get (Other than Charli) during the signing period?

Is it really down to Nelson-Ododa, Williams and Scott-Grayson?

17-18 Recruiting thread is broader than this little itty bity question of little consequence.

Definitely jinxed us... Wow!

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Definitely jinxed us... Wow!

Just prescient.