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BigErnMcCracken said:
And the legend of Enosch Wolf continues to grow. Never has a 3/3 guy been talked about in such mythic tones. Clearly the difference between losing back to backs to Houston and SMU and beating Arizona in Dallas.
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With Wolf 16-6
Without Wolf 4-4

Granted there were injuries, but he made the team a lot better by doing so many things. This year's team has a bunch of bigs that don't do anything.
 
Wolf was a horrible rebounder and did not block shots, two things you want from your 7'1 center. He had slow low post moves and a above avg jumper. To call Uconn a final four team with Wolf is just insane. Kromah right now has been huge for us especially with the decline of Omar (who should think about transferring). I'll take Kromah thank you.
 
Strummer said:
That's my issue with this team.

Combination of seeming lack of effort, lack of a coordinated offense, lack of talent, frustrating players (calhoun), and seeing my favorite player (NG) on the bench too much.

Every win seems to have the same theme:

Get lead of ______ points over inferior opponent ______ which is without key player ______. Let inferior come back with uninspired play and disjointed offense, win by __1 / 2 / 3____ points on last second shot and/or other team choking.

Not at all an entertaining. Reminds me of watching the Dyson/Robinson team - I watched out of loyalty, but got very little entertainment value.

Not sure this is curable.

Beating a dead horse here, to be sure, but Wolf would have made a huge difference for this team. He was a very legitimate threat from inside of 10', with a very nice short jumper and very good hands.

I think in a way, ironically, Wolf became the sacrificial lamb for the past ills of the program. After all the crap that had happened prior to Wolf, KO decided that one more negative event could not be let go. Essentially Wolf was not kicked off the team for an event that was so insignificant that all charges were dropped, but rather to pay for the Sins of Nate Miles, Calhoun himself, AJ and Dyson, and the APR suck asses.

Screwing the Wolf ended up being the worst decision KO has made so far as a coach. It was excessive, it was reactionary, it showed a lack of loyalty for a kid who had stayed with us through the ban, and it was a very bad basketball decision.

All you Wolf haters out there can suck it. If Wolf was on this team we'd be substantially better, and I'd be enjoying these games instead of wondering what the hell is going on with the program.
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You like winners, am I right? All you're saying is, you don't like watching losers, like Dyson and Robinson. You're a busy, important guy, you have responsibilities and access to the internet and what not, and what you need in your downtime is some entertainment. It's like the people running the UConn men's basketball team are completely ignoring YOUR needs. Winning easily is entertaining, DOMINATION is entertaining, and instead of giving you a team that does that, they give you these guys! Even when these guys win, they ALMOST LOSE! They're not entertaining super-winners, they're a bunch of "almost-losers". How can anyone watch these guys? They certainly don't put in the same amount of effort playing the game as you do in wanting to root for a team that dominates (and entertains).

And speaking of entertaining, you know who was super entertaining? ENOSCH WOLF! That was like a combination of Paul Newman, David Chappelle, the Rolling Stones, and a child's Christmas morning all wrapped up in one gigantic bearded teutonic package! God, if we only had that guy! When I think of the the way he sometimes was able to catch entry passes and occasionally defended people enbough to stay on the court for more than 15 minutes a game, I admit that I get misty-eyed! Add that guy, then maybe a person in their right mind could watch this team. Life is so MFing unfair to Enosh Wolf and, by extension, to you.

I get you, Strummer. I really do.
 
Wolf's schollie was pulled. No one said he could NOT play hoops, but to do so, had to pay tuition, and travel to a foreign land. He was manipulated to not attend UConn for personal econ reasons. This was a once-removed-docie-doe-political-sounding thing. The moral arguments are something else.
 
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Dave Carlson said:
You like winners, am I right? All you're saying is, you don't like watching losers, like Dyson and Robinson. You're a busy, important guy, you have responsibilities . . .
I get you, Strummer. I really do.
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Lot of effort for something that's not particularly funny or witty.
Maybe you can IM Fishy and ask him to give you some tips on not being boring while you are trying to be witty.
 
Strummer said:
Ball don't lie.

With Wolf, winning percentage, 73%.

Without him, 50%.
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Yeah, it's not quite that simple. In the eight games Wolf missed, Shabazz also missed two of them (both losses), and in two others, he was clearly hobbled and not near 100%. Giffey, Calhoun, and Olander also missed time, and by the time the final couple games rolled around, it was truly a group hobbling towards the finish line. The schedule also escalated after Wolf's dismissal, as we had to play Syracuse, Villanova, G'Town, and Cincy twice. Of the 16 wins the team amassed with Wolf, about half of them were against cup cakes, and in the notable wins with him in the lineup (MSU, Notre Dame), he hardly played much of a role.
 
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These guys actually might be onto something here.

UConn all-time record without Wolf: 1531 - 861 64.0%
All-time record w/ Wolf: 68 - 29 70.1%

Granted he only played 34 total minutes in 10-11 and 11-12 seasons, but I don't want that to get in the way of facts. Balls don't lie.
 
Back on topic though, I agree the team is not fun to watch. I can go down to the neighborhood YMCA and see better offense from 60 year olds. Its embarrassing to the program to watch us run high ball screen after high ball screen and 4 players standing on the perimeter not doing anything. We won't win with this offense that's for sure.
 
Wolf ranks behind Souleymane Wane, Dan Cyrulik and Eric Hayward among our all-time best ninth-best players.

As always, when this team struggles and becomes hard to watch, it is worth it to remember that all these guys could have bailed by either transferring or backing out on their commitments. We could be on our way to our second straight 10-20 season, watching walkons in the rotation.
 
Like. Will Rogers said;
"There are two kinds of lies ,out and out lies ,and statistics."
This tread a wonderful example of the wisdom of that statement.
 
Penfield said:
These guys actually might be onto something here.

UConn all-time record without Wolf: 1531 - 861 64.0%
All-time record w/ Wolf: 68 - 29 70.1%

Granted he only played 34 total minutes in 10-11 and 11-12 seasons, but I don't want that to get in the way of facts. Balls don't lie.
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Don't sell Wolf's cheerleading short. As a cheerleader from the bench he was highly effective. Towels don't lie.

But seriously, if we could have lost Olander or even Calhoun and gained Kromah and Wolf both, this team would be significantly improved. Both Kromah and Wolf provide upgrades at spots we don't have a decent starter (counting Giffey not as a 3 but as a versatile player).

But Wolf screwed up, and Herbst or whoever made the decision was not going to be lenient. He's gone. Wish it had worked out differently, but we have to root for Brimah, Nolan, Olander, and Facey to develop quickly.
 
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Wolf definitely makes this team better by a lot. FF, no I doubt it……but his skills and size would make up for many of things we lack from our bigs and there's no doubt about that. Thing is he would have needed to stay on the floor to be that guy and foul trouble was an issue. He could pass, shoot, alter and block shots and keep balls alive we have zero chance at from our guys now…………

He's not here life goes on but for those who don't think we would be better you weren't watching close or just have a hard on for big, tall white guys!
 
Good job Carlson. Explained it well and and contraire I do think you were quite witty. Let's face it nobody is Fishy but you hit the proverbial nail on the head and the dreaded Strummer is , well what!!!
 
Few Wolf points:
He was a good team supporter and appeared to be well-liked by his teammates, so his loss likely affected their overall psyche to some extent, but IMO this was not much of a contributing factor to our current funk.

His scholarship was revoked by the UConn administration, including Coach Ollie, who verbally supported the decision. Because he is a foreign-national and would have been on the hook for >$50,000 and would not have the availability of U.S. federally-supported students loans, there was no way that he could come back to UConn without the scholarship, so this was effectively a dismissal. The dismissal helped to assuage adverse feelings about the UConn program related to prior misconduct of players and the coaching staff, so it was somewhat politically motivated.

I don't think any of us have the full story, but from what was reported, Wolf did not "beat up" his girlfriend. It is not appropriate for any man to strike a woman, let alone a 7 foot tall representative of the UConn basketball team, but it was reported that he slapped at her and knocked the glasses off her face.

I think the potential value of Wolf to this team has been dramatically over and under-stated in this thread. It is not likely that he would have led us to the Final Four. But he also would likely have been a significant step up from the dumpster fire performance we have seen from our inside players to date. He would have been much more effective defensively against opposing bigs with interior skills, such as Anderson from BCU and Thomas of Houston. I think he would have averaged something like 7 to 8 ppg and rpg with 1 to 1.5 bpg. He also was a decent passer. His presence would have allowed one of Kelis Fisher, PN, AB to redshirt, which from a player development perspective, all could clearly use to get bigger, stronger and learn interior skills.
However, it also would have meant that one of our current players would not have a scholarship, which might mean that we would not have one of our current players available (unless someone else played as a walk-on). Regardless, it is water-under-the-bridge and UConn will move on with the players they have.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
Like. Will Rogers said;
"There are two kinds of lies ,out and out lies ,and statistics."
This tread a wonderful example of the wisdom of that statement.
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How does that relate to balls?
 
tykurez said:
All the Wolf stuff aside (because frankly, we'll never know if it would've made a difference and who cares?) ... this is exactly how I'm feeling.

I'm usually the overly optimistic type, but I've just lost that feeling with this team as of late. Something has happened since that 2nd half against Stanford that I can't put my finger on ... but this has not been an enjoyable team to watch as of late. The remaining optimistic part of me is waiting for that moment where it all turns around though ... just hope it isn't too late.

And I get it, the team is 12-3. Why are we complaining? Because that passion from last year has suddenly disappeared. Where's that "ten toes in" and "we're all brothers" mentality that Ollie brought out in these guys that made us so excited, even without a postseason?
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Screw Wolf. What if we still had Roscoe or Drummond?
 
sledog said:
Wolf's schollie was pulled. No one said he could NOT play hoops, but to do so, had to pay tuition, and travel to a foreign land. He was manipulated to not attend UConn for personal econ reasons. This was a once-removed-docie-doe-political-sounding thing. The moral arguments are something else.
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That didn't pass the smell test to me. If it was OK for him to join the team and attend the school, it should have OK for him to get the schollie. The program got cute and cut off their nose to spite their face. Anyone that doesn't think Wolf would have helped this team is nuts. He showed good skills in the high post. That talent alone would have fit the team like a glove, a skill that no one else has shown to possess.
 
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champs99and04 said:
Yeah, it's not quite that simple. In the eight games Wolf missed, Shabazz also missed two of them (both losses), and in two others, he was clearly hobbled and not near 100%. Giffey, Calhoun, and Olander also missed time, and by the time the final couple games rolled around, it was truly a group hobbling towards the finish line. The schedule also escalated after Wolf's dismissal, as we had to play Syracuse, Villanova, G'Town, and Cincy twice. Of the 16 wins the team amassed with Wolf, about half of them were against cup cakes, and in the notable wins with him in the lineup (MSU, Notre Dame), he hardly played much of a role.
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Stop using rationale arguments and facts, it makes it impossible for the imbeciles to tell us Wolf was a mix between Hakeem, Kareem and David Robinson
 
hthusky74 said:
Screw Wolf. What if we still had Roscoe or Drummond?
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One is in the NBA, doing well and the other didn't want to be here….not worthy of the thought. EW was a Husky!!
 
Jerry1714 said:
Stop using rationale arguments and facts, it makes it impossible for the imbeciles to tell us Wolf was a mix between Hakeem, Kareem and David Robinson
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I'm not sure anyone said that Jer but I know the "imbeciles" who think he would have been a much better choice at the 5 than anything we have are correct and anyone thinking differently would make imbeciles look real intelligent!!;)
 
mauconnfan said:
I'm not sure anyone said that Jer but I know the "imbeciles" who think he would have been a much better choice at the 5 than anything we have are correct and anyone thinking differently would make imbeciles look real intelligent!!;)
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Driving with 1 flat tire as opposed to 2 will still prevent you from getting where you want to go very fast or easily.

Is he better than Nolan or Amida? Probably, but he was not or would be a difference maker. He averaged 13 min a game and 3 PPG and 3 Rebounds, Amida, is about the same. People act like Wolf was a double double guy, he was not. In fact he never had one, never had a 10 rebound game and he was over 7 feet. People need to realize what Wolf actually was.

His scholly went to Kromah, who I believe has helped this team tremendously.
 
Ugh!
Wolf's numbers
Freshman year: 4 min. 1.2 pts, 1.0 reb
Soph season: 0.3 min., 0.3 pts, 0.75 reb
Jr. season: 13,7 min, 3.4 pts, 3,4 reb

By comparison, TO's numbers
Freshman season 9.7 min., 1.3 pts, 1.9 reb
Soph. season 18.8 min.,4.6 pts. 4.o reb
Jr. season: 21.6 min. 4.3 pts. 3.7 reb

So there was never a year thar Wolf got more points, rebounds or minutes than TO. Particularly, JC chose to not use EW. KO only allowed EW significant minutes.
That is the basketball of this.
 
Now the law:
EW's was not exonerated of his charges, he wasn't even declared "not guilty" He was allowed to take a course on domestic violence in lieu of going to court. This is a regular court practice especially for for very common problems that clog the court. So he did not think he could be declared innocent or he would not acceppted the Alternative Sanction.
 
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