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They're still dating today too. So either it wasn't abuse or the girl is a pyscho.
 

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We all knew that Nolan and DD were going to have breakout years; that their flashes last year meant they were bound to be huge producers for us this year. You have absolutely no idea how effective Wolf would have been this year, and speculating on what could have been is just stupid and completely unproductive anyway. It's worse than the AO and Roscoe talk.

Talk about a sacrificial lamb? How have you people been talking about KO?
 
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We all knew that Nolan and DD were going to have breakout years; that their flashes last year meant they were bound to be huge producers for us this year. You have absolutely no idea how effective Wolf would have been this year, and speculating on what could have been is just stupid and completely unproductive anyway. It's worse than the AO and Roscoe talk.

Talk about a sacrificial lamb? How have you people been talking about KO?

Couldnt agree more with this point. Love how these guys act like Wolf some type of Okafor-esque center and automatically would have been the answer if he was here. He's gone, he wasnt that great to begin with, so I think its time we all move on from him.
 
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The Wolf question has two sides to it.
1. Wolf was not that good and we actually played our best basketball after his suspension. Would he help this year probably,especially in situations like down in Texas or Stamford but it's debatable.
2. Throwing him under the bus could have been a factor in lack of team chemistry this year. After all the we are UConn stuff last year a senior looses his scholarship over something in the minds of the players that was not that serious and he was already punished pretty harshly for.That was a blow to KO's credibility. Last years team would kill for their coach. I don't think it was the coaches call but it's the coach they play for. Remember it may be entertainment for us but for these guys it's their life.
These guys are their friend for life hurting one hurts them all. The pulling of the scholarship also sends the message that we really don't care if you graduate.
 

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Couldnt agree more with this point. Love how these guys act like Wolf some type of Okafor-esque center and automatically would have been the answer if he was here. He's gone, he wasnt that great to begin with, so I think its time we all move on from him.
Wolf was ages ahead of Nolan and DD in all aspects of the low-post game. I agree we should move on, but to say he wouldn't benefit this team is nonsense. With Wolf this is a Final Four caliber team.
 

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And the legend of Enosch Wolf continues to grow. Never has a 3/3 guy been talked about in such mythic tones. Clearly the difference between losing back to backs to Houston and SMU and beating Arizona in Dallas.
With Wolf 16-6
Without Wolf 4-4

Granted there were injuries, but he made the team a lot better by doing so many things. This year's team has a bunch of bigs that don't do anything.
 
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Wolf was a horrible rebounder and did not block shots, two things you want from your 7'1 center. He had slow low post moves and a above avg jumper. To call Uconn a final four team with Wolf is just insane. Kromah right now has been huge for us especially with the decline of Omar (who should think about transferring). I'll take Kromah thank you.
 
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That's my issue with this team.

Combination of seeming lack of effort, lack of a coordinated offense, lack of talent, frustrating players (calhoun), and seeing my favorite player (NG) on the bench too much.

Every win seems to have the same theme:

Get lead of ______ points over inferior opponent ______ which is without key player ______. Let inferior come back with uninspired play and disjointed offense, win by __1 / 2 / 3____ points on last second shot and/or other team choking.

Not at all an entertaining. Reminds me of watching the Dyson/Robinson team - I watched out of loyalty, but got very little entertainment value.

Not sure this is curable.

Beating a dead horse here, to be sure, but Wolf would have made a huge difference for this team. He was a very legitimate threat from inside of 10', with a very nice short jumper and very good hands.

I think in a way, ironically, Wolf became the sacrificial lamb for the past ills of the program. After all the crap that had happened prior to Wolf, KO decided that one more negative event could not be let go. Essentially Wolf was not kicked off the team for an event that was so insignificant that all charges were dropped, but rather to pay for the Sins of Nate Miles, Calhoun himself, AJ and Dyson, and the APR suck asses.

Screwing the Wolf ended up being the worst decision KO has made so far as a coach. It was excessive, it was reactionary, it showed a lack of loyalty for a kid who had stayed with us through the ban, and it was a very bad basketball decision.

All you Wolf haters out there can suck it. If Wolf was on this team we'd be substantially better, and I'd be enjoying these games instead of wondering what the hell is going on with the program.

You like winners, am I right? All you're saying is, you don't like watching losers, like Dyson and Robinson. You're a busy, important guy, you have responsibilities and access to the internet and what not, and what you need in your downtime is some entertainment. It's like the people running the UConn men's basketball team are completely ignoring YOUR needs. Winning easily is entertaining, DOMINATION is entertaining, and instead of giving you a team that does that, they give you these guys! Even when these guys win, they ALMOST LOSE! They're not entertaining super-winners, they're a bunch of "almost-losers". How can anyone watch these guys? They certainly don't put in the same amount of effort playing the game as you do in wanting to root for a team that dominates (and entertains).

And speaking of entertaining, you know who was super entertaining? ENOSCH WOLF! That was like a combination of Paul Newman, David Chappelle, the Rolling Stones, and a child's Christmas morning all wrapped up in one gigantic bearded teutonic package! God, if we only had that guy! When I think of the the way he sometimes was able to catch entry passes and occasionally defended people enbough to stay on the court for more than 15 minutes a game, I admit that I get misty-eyed! Add that guy, then maybe a person in their right mind could watch this team. Life is so MFing unfair to Enosh Wolf and, by extension, to you.

I get you, Strummer. I really do.
 
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Wolf's schollie was pulled. No one said he could NOT play hoops, but to do so, had to pay tuition, and travel to a foreign land. He was manipulated to not attend UConn for personal econ reasons. This was a once-removed-docie-doe-political-sounding thing. The moral arguments are something else.
 
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You like winners, am I right? All you're saying is, you don't like watching losers, like Dyson and Robinson. You're a busy, important guy, you have responsibilities . . .
I get you, Strummer. I really do.
Lot of effort for something that's not particularly funny or witty.
Maybe you can IM Fishy and ask him to give you some tips on not being boring while you are trying to be witty.
 
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Ball don't lie.

With Wolf, winning percentage, 73%.

Without him, 50%.

Yeah, it's not quite that simple. In the eight games Wolf missed, Shabazz also missed two of them (both losses), and in two others, he was clearly hobbled and not near 100%. Giffey, Calhoun, and Olander also missed time, and by the time the final couple games rolled around, it was truly a group hobbling towards the finish line. The schedule also escalated after Wolf's dismissal, as we had to play Syracuse, Villanova, G'Town, and Cincy twice. Of the 16 wins the team amassed with Wolf, about half of them were against cup cakes, and in the notable wins with him in the lineup (MSU, Notre Dame), he hardly played much of a role.
 

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These guys actually might be onto something here.

UConn all-time record without Wolf: 1531 - 861 64.0%
All-time record w/ Wolf: 68 - 29 70.1%

Granted he only played 34 total minutes in 10-11 and 11-12 seasons, but I don't want that to get in the way of facts. Balls don't lie.
 

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Back on topic though, I agree the team is not fun to watch. I can go down to the neighborhood YMCA and see better offense from 60 year olds. Its embarrassing to the program to watch us run high ball screen after high ball screen and 4 players standing on the perimeter not doing anything. We won't win with this offense that's for sure.
 
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Wolf ranks behind Souleymane Wane, Dan Cyrulik and Eric Hayward among our all-time best ninth-best players.

As always, when this team struggles and becomes hard to watch, it is worth it to remember that all these guys could have bailed by either transferring or backing out on their commitments. We could be on our way to our second straight 10-20 season, watching walkons in the rotation.
 
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Like. Will Rogers said;
"There are two kinds of lies ,out and out lies ,and statistics."
This tread a wonderful example of the wisdom of that statement.
 

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These guys actually might be onto something here.

UConn all-time record without Wolf: 1531 - 861 64.0%
All-time record w/ Wolf: 68 - 29 70.1%

Granted he only played 34 total minutes in 10-11 and 11-12 seasons, but I don't want that to get in the way of facts. Balls don't lie.

Don't sell Wolf's cheerleading short. As a cheerleader from the bench he was highly effective. Towels don't lie.

But seriously, if we could have lost Olander or even Calhoun and gained Kromah and Wolf both, this team would be significantly improved. Both Kromah and Wolf provide upgrades at spots we don't have a decent starter (counting Giffey not as a 3 but as a versatile player).

But Wolf screwed up, and Herbst or whoever made the decision was not going to be lenient. He's gone. Wish it had worked out differently, but we have to root for Brimah, Nolan, Olander, and Facey to develop quickly.
 
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Wolf definitely makes this team better by a lot. FF, no I doubt it……but his skills and size would make up for many of things we lack from our bigs and there's no doubt about that. Thing is he would have needed to stay on the floor to be that guy and foul trouble was an issue. He could pass, shoot, alter and block shots and keep balls alive we have zero chance at from our guys now…………

He's not here life goes on but for those who don't think we would be better you weren't watching close or just have a hard on for big, tall white guys!
 
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Good job Carlson. Explained it well and and contraire I do think you were quite witty. Let's face it nobody is Fishy but you hit the proverbial nail on the head and the dreaded Strummer is , well what!!!
 
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