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ArmyHuskyFan said:
Disagree. They clearly don't have elite talent on the offensive side of the ball, but whatever this coaching staff has done to try and make them better this year hasn't worked. P has no fire and passion and just looks like a grumpy old man who isn't getting his way.

Coaching is about leadership, instilling pride, and getting the most out of the cards you are dealt (both personnel and situation wise). In my opinion, Coach P hasn't done any of those things with this team and instead throws little temper tantrums on the side-line instead of trying to coach his guys up.

Maybe he will end up recruiting fantastic players like Donovan McNabb and Dwight Freeney and that will overcome what I see as his major faults. I just don't really understand how so many of you are willing to lay the blame on the season totally on the players and exempt this staff from blame because they didn't recruit any of the players. Just a difference in opinion I guess.
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Case in point..and many may think this is a silly point but whatever. End of the 3rd quarter..Sandstorm is raging over the PA, Louisville players are together, jumping around and getting amped. Our sideline, spread out, heads down, zero energy. Zero. Now I know that jumping around to Sandstorm is not a sign of a team's focus, but it was a sign of a general malaise IMO
 
huskyrob1 said:
And you think they've been stressing that in practice? I don't. Has this coaching staff done a good job trying to get this team up for the game during this week? IMO, nope. If you think these kids don't have heart then ask yourself why? COACHING.
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Lets get real here. You're saying that WIDE OPEN WR'S not catching the ball is a coaches fault? Seriously? This is from a player who is a Red Shirt Senior .... think about that. He has been playing for 5 years and gets a wide open pass more than once and completely blows it. Are you telling me this is HCPP's fault because the WR's don't like him? Perhaps these WR's always had trouble catching balls ... so I guess they hate both FHCRE and HCPP right? I seem to recall that McCummings missed a wide open pass ... this isn't about the coaches ... its about the players talent. What coach needs to be here for our QB's and WR's to all of a sudden be effective when they have under performed the last few years. Please tell me because I would like to know.
 
The drops really looked awful today. Some of the penalties were BS and could've been easily not called but the butter fingers were inexcusable.
 
UConn's offense is terrible. Poor recruiting by Randy. . . Poor coaching by PP. Period. Get some playmakers in here period. No defensive recruits, only offensive.
 
fortebleedsblue said:
Lets get real here. You're saying that WIDE OPEN WR'S not catching the ball is a coaches fault? Seriously? This is from a player who is a Red Shirt Senior .... think about that. He has been playing for 5 years and gets a wide open pass more than once and completely blows it. Are you telling me this is HCPP's fault because the WR's don't like him? Perhaps these WR's always had trouble catching balls ... so I guess they hate both FHCRE and HCPP right? I seem to recall that McCummings missed a wide open pass ... this isn't about the coaches ... its about the players talent. What coach needs to be here for our QB's and WR's to all of a sudden be effective when they have under performed the last few years. Please tell me because I would like to know.
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Sad part is, I would be willing to bet that, if you asked those WRs, they would absolutely say it was THEIR fault. Kash is a 5th year senior that dropped a huge 3rd down pass while he was wide open. You think he's putting that on the coaches?
 
sportsart said:
I don't remember not seeing Randy's team play with everything they had.

When you "buy" what the coaches are selling you play disciplined and focused football.

Last years run by this team was proof of that. I really think PP dumped too much too fast on these guys and he doesn't have enough guys made for his system, on offense and defense.
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SportsArt .... Edsall's team last year had Todman. Mccombs is not Todman. Imagine that team with out Todman ... or remember the running snaps that Frey took over. Frey had his moments and I was a big fan ... but he was no Todman. HCPP doesn't have a player like that this year and has to work with QB's that just are clearly QB's but IMO aren't BCS caliber.
 
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Our receivers needed to make ordinary catches to win this game and they did not. Louisville receivers made extra ordinary catches. We have given this passing game enough chances over the years. Time for the new kids to step up and play. I don't care if lose the next two, it would be better than watching what I saw today.

Include McCombs in the category of somebody who has to learn how to hold on to the ball.

Think that there is a reason that PP finds two transfers and a JUCO to supplement the receiving corps.
 
fortebleedsblue said:
SportsArt .... Edsall's team last year had Todman. Mccombs is not Todman. Imagine that team with out Todman ... or remember the running snaps that Frey took over. Frey had his moments and I was a big fan ... but he was no Todman. HCPP doesn't have a player like that this year and has to work with QB's that just are clearly QB's but IMO aren't BCS caliber.
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Hell, I'd take Frazer back in a heartbeat for this year
 
I find this thread funny. This might have been Deleone's best game. People were in position all day to make significant plays on offense without having to do anything spectacular. Our offensive talent simply didn't do what they should have and were capable of.
 
First bad play of this season occurred immediately after the Fiesta Bowl. They could have change the entire equation. But more of the same old fashion, tired New England, Land o Steady Habits crap. Result? HCPP. Result ZZZZzzzzzzzzzz zzzz zz zzz zzz.
 
I agree the players were put in positions to succeed by DeLeone, but there's more to coaching than just drawing the Xs and Os.

I think the people who are holding out hope that PP is a much better recruiter than RE are in for a rude awakening. I hope Casey Cochran is Steve Young, but I'm not counting on it. My head tells me that Nebrich was as or more successful than Cochran playing at a much better level of HS football.
 
businesslawyer said:
I find this thread funny. This might have been Deleone's best game. People were in position all day to make significant plays on offense without having to do anything spectacular. Our offensive talent simply didn't do what they should have and were capable of.
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Play calling was not the issue. It would have been a much different game without 9 wide open drops.
 
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huskyrob1 said:
Listen wise @ss, when you see dropped passes like today and missed tackles like today resulting in an opening kickoff score, and slumping shoulders on the sidelines it points to coaching failures on several fronts.
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You are just nuts - the coaches put these guys in a position to make plays and they did not do it. To blame the coaches is just crazy talk. They are not coaching 10 year olds just learning the game.
 
ruskin said:
I agree the players were put in positions to succeed by DeLeone, but there's more to coaching than just drawing the Xs and Os.

I think the people who are holding out hope that PP is a much better recruiter than RE are in for a rude awakening. I hope Casey Cochran is Steve Young, but I'm not counting on it. My head tells me that Nebrich was as or more successful than Cochran playing at a much better level of HS football.
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That's scary. But all too true.
 
Palatine said:
There's no talent gap, that absurd. L'ville was awful, we were worse.
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How can you say there's no talent gap? I'm not saying Ville is highly talented, but at least their receivers can catch. That takes some talent. And they made catches in traffic. Our receivers drop open passes with no one around. That's a talent gap. Just is.
 
ArmyHuskyFan said:
Disagree. They clearly don't have elite talent on the offensive side of the ball, but whatever this coaching staff has done to try and make them better this year hasn't worked. P has no fire and passion and just looks like a grumpy old man who isn't getting his way.

Coaching is about leadership, instilling pride, and getting the most out of the cards you are dealt (both personnel and situation wise). In my opinion, Coach P hasn't done any of those things with this team and instead throws little temper tantrums on the side-line instead of trying to coach his guys up.

Maybe he will end up recruiting fantastic players like Donovan McNabb and Dwight Freeney and that will overcome what I see as his major faults. I just don't really understand how so many of you are willing to lay the blame on the season totally on the players and exempt this staff from blame because they didn't recruit any of the players. Just a difference in opinion I guess.
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How can you possible know this when you are not at practice and team meetings and watching game film. Just amazing.
 
The team was absolutely unprepared. If this doesn't fall on the coaching staff, what does?

I feel the way i felt in 2005 and it stinks. While being interviewed on the way off the field at halftime, PP complained about the kickoff coverage and stated that it 'has to improve because we are kickoff off to start the second half'. How does the head coach not know at that point who is kciking off?

If they showed any urgency during the last minute (when we settled for a field goal) we actually could have had a shot (with an onside kick recovery) to tie (or win if the score then was a TD) but it appeared as if we had already conceded the outcome and merely wanted to make the final score look close. Why, with ~45 seconds left and the ball at the 30 (before the roughing the passer) were we not taking shots at the end zone? The few 10-15 yard pass attempts killed most of what was left on the clock when we kicked the field goal. At that point why bother? If a field goal was a reasonable strategy, why not try to save some time as well?

The coaching staff gets an F today. The drops (and it felt like there were fifty) killed us but there is a lot of blame to be placed elsewhere.
 
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businesslawyer said:
I find this thread funny. This might have been Deleone's best game. People were in position all day to make significant plays on offense without having to do anything spectacular. Our offensive talent simply didn't do what they should have and were capable of.
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Right on 1000%
 
Stop the sugar coating. HCPP was a poor hire. The UConn offense is so poor that there are high school seniors who could replace them. UConn fans deserve better than what they are seeing right now. How many fans in the stands could make the catches that the WRs can't. Take the boxing gloves off, please.
 
ruskin said:
I agree the players were put in positions to succeed by DeLeone, but there's more to coaching than just drawing the Xs and Os.

I think the people who are holding out hope that PP is a much better recruiter than RE are in for a rude awakening. I hope Casey Cochran is Steve Young, but I'm not counting on it. My head tells me that Nebrich was as or more successful than Cochran playing at a much better level of HS football.
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As far as recruiting goes, we all know we have to wait 2-4 years from now to see how the class pans out. As most of frustratingly realize, football isn't like basketball where top recruits turn teams around from day one.

That being said, the recruiting coordinator (SOS) and many of the position coaches are the same as when RE was here. The facilities are the same, the conference affiliation is more uncertain and yet we are getting, on paper, better recruits. Meaning? Meaning all things equal, PP, GD and DB are doing a better job of securing commitments from higher visibility recruits.
 
Remember 2006? Last game of the season in Louisville, Petrino blew our doors off and then mercifully called off the dogs and let Terry Caulley get his last hurrah. We thought the talent gap was quite large after that game.

Next season we beat them at home. The team was playing better.

You're never as bad as you think you are and you're never as good as you think you are. The team just played like garbage. If the team isn't prepared then it's on the coaches. It's on the players too, but this is more of a coaching issue.
 
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I feel like puking. On the bright side (or so I think), we've taken Yale's spot as the best football program in the state... (Or maybe New England...)
 
can't wait for PP to bring in players that can play a pro-style offense

I'll just say I'm a tad bit pessimistic
 
huskyrob1 said:
How can you say it's not the fault of the coaching staff with missed tackles all over the place and dropped passes galore? Teach these kids how to tackle and teach them how to catch a ball. These coaches are not doing that.
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I'm pretty sure these guys should have the fundamentals to tackle and catch once they are in a BCS program.
 
These calls to replace PP are as idiotic as I have seen on this board. The job of any coach or manager or teacher is to put people in position to succeed. - BUT YOU CAN"T SUCCEED FOR THEM. This was by far the BEST coached game I have seen by a UCONN team in awhile. Our passing attack and balance are the best that I have seen.

Look forward to the future with this group of coaches.
 
I think the pro-PP and anti-PP hire folks on this board should agree not to characterize the other side as 'idiotic'. There's a lot of folks on the latter side, like me, who thought this was a poor hire when it was first announced and are now seeing their worst fears realized. This program has taken a step back this year, the next two games will define how far. (BTW admire the man, but he wasn't the right guy for this job).
I hope the juniors, sophs, freshmen and recruits are looking forward to the future. I'd be very interested to hear the seniors' take on PP after this over.
Not expecting the trigger to get pulled this year, but think PP will be on a very short leash next year. If downward slide continues, can't imagine Herbst giving him a third year.
 
and if they don't execute, why don't change a thing. Solid approach

I'm sorry, the lack of execution is all about preparation, mental and physical and planning

all of a sudden these kids can't execute basic plays, and that Randy's fault for recruiting chumps

whatever
 
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