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3 years. Used one at Juco and doesn't have to sit out at all.
Norwalk Hour reporting that Chandler Whitmer headed to UConn
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You're correct, but just to clarify, he redshirted his first year at Illinois, used his second year (redshirt freshman year) at Butler (JUCO), and will come in to UConn (for eligibility purposes) as a redshirt sophomore who can play immediately.
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We get a guy who has been in college for two years developing his game and has a good amount of experience as a result of playing at a Junior College. If he's good enough to come in and start, we (presumably) have our starting QB for the next 3 years. If not, he's probably good enough that he can be in the backup pro-style QB, allowing CC and MN to redshirt with SM continuing to be the option QB.
There's a 95% chance that only good comes from this, even if he doesn't win the starting job next year.
Edit: And I tend to believe that as a coaching staff you only go JUCO if you think the kid can come in and play right away.
There's a 95% chance that only good comes from this, even if he doesn't win the starting job next year.
Edit: And I tend to believe that as a coaching staff you only go JUCO if you think the kid can come in and play right away.
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This as well as some of the other additions makes tremendous sense as a way of bridging as bl said. We aren't bringing in 15 JUCO kids, but selectively filling in weak spots with JUCOs or transfers is a sound policy, I think and I think a sensible Pasqualoni policy. And oneof the things that makes me think that indeed he does have a pretty solid plan to upgrade the program.
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I agree 100%. The results on the field year left a bit to be desired. I was hoping for a 7-5 type year and got a 5-7 year. But it is definitely apparent that they have a long term plan and are taking the necessary steps to bridge the gap in the short term by adding JUCOs and transfers.
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Way too early to compare P to Zook as a recruiter. Way too early to insult P by comparing him to Zook as a coach. Give it time and we'll see.
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Terrible coach? Based on what? His 112-61 record in 1A? His two Fiesta Bowl appearances (one win), and Orange Bowl appearance? His 7 seasons in which he finished ranked? His top 10 finish in 1992? Two losing seasons out of 15? He won 9 games or more in 6 of those 15 seasons. Maybe it's his 76-38 Big East record that has put you off?
Even this season, in a down year, he kicked Schiano's tail.
Paul Pasqualoni is a damned good football coach.
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I'm not sure what you guys were expecting this year but with a new coach, an already anemic offense that had no experienced quarterback and was trying to replace one of the nations's leading rushers, I saw 7-5 as the high, 6-6 as likely so 5-7 while disappointing is hardly beyond the pale. I'll admit that the wins weren't the wins I expected nor where the losses, but the total wasn't much of a surprise.
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I think the tell was in the interview that Dez had with DeLeone at the end of the year. He said MN needed more time. Something like all he ever did in high school was run around and make plays. D1 college is different., especially with a more-complicated offense like ours. I think that MN has a ton of talent. Maybe he is good enough to start next year who knows, but my sense is that he deserves a red shirt year to develop.
As somebody said only good can come out of this.
As somebody said only good can come out of this.
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asked a guy who is very close to the Illinois program about him... this was his reply
A good player that others respect. Ended up recruiting alot of HS players for us after he committed. A little small for the position . He doesnt have a rocket arm but he is very, very accurate. I think he was rated the most accurate QB in his class by Rivals. He transferred after losing the starting job to RS Freshman Scheelhaase and because Illinois is a mess (at least we have a conference ). We also over recruited him with a freshman that played alot this year. On a few updates, he ended up doing very well in JC. Definately a good guy to have in your program and someone that can push for playing time. He spent a year learning Petino's pro style offense.
Truth be told, he would probably struggle at Illinois because the stadium is a wind tunnel and you really need a rocket arm to play there (its why Scheelhaase and our pass defense is so good), but I was dissapointed to see him go.
A good player that others respect. Ended up recruiting alot of HS players for us after he committed. A little small for the position . He doesnt have a rocket arm but he is very, very accurate. I think he was rated the most accurate QB in his class by Rivals. He transferred after losing the starting job to RS Freshman Scheelhaase and because Illinois is a mess (at least we have a conference ). We also over recruited him with a freshman that played alot this year. On a few updates, he ended up doing very well in JC. Definately a good guy to have in your program and someone that can push for playing time. He spent a year learning Petino's pro style offense.
Truth be told, he would probably struggle at Illinois because the stadium is a wind tunnel and you really need a rocket arm to play there (its why Scheelhaase and our pass defense is so good), but I was dissapointed to see him go.
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Turns out Vandy and Iowa State are on scholarship too. Who knew?
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I know. If only Nebrich had started we'd have been 9-2. And if Nick Williams had played quarterback and figured out a way to pass to himself, we'd be playing LSU for the National Championship.
Based on the endless shuffling of confused players in and out of the game, based on the horrific clock management in multiple games both at the half and the end of the game.
Based on the decision to have the QB with no mobility drop back into the endzone to pass on 3rd and 14 against a talented D-line on the first drive of the game. Same thing against Vanderbilt where we lost on a pick six because he passed in a situation where we should have run the ball and relied on the defense. We never should have been in the position to lose to Western Michigan but he (or Brown) decided there was nothing wrong with giving up 10 yards a time on short passes.
He kicked Schiano's tail? SIX turnovers didn't have anything to do with that?
I'm encouraged by the recruiting. We had the talent to do better than 5-7 this year. I don't want Edsall back....ever. But it does get old watching people make excuses for the results this year after complaining about 5 bowl games and a BCS bid.
He's not as good at recruiting or as bad as coaching...but there are certainly similarities
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Unbelievable. Maybe we should just line the entire squad and coaching staff for a firing squad. Hey, get those seniors back into the facility. Line em up and lock and load.
Get a grip. This coaching staff, in my opinion, was pretty masterful in handling a transition year in a division 1A program, coming off a major bowl game, and losing it's head coach, and bringing in an entire, ENTIRE, new structure, philosophy and approach to the game. They kept the players focused, working together. They built a a TEAM. If you can't see the coaching that needs to go into doing something like that with a roster of 100 or so players, then you're blind.
They had that team in position to compete for a division title in late November. They had that team in position to compete for a post season apperance on the last day of the season. THey put the seniors in position to kick the out of Rutgers on senior day, and ruin Rutgers BCS bowl chances, and the players responded in that one and gave this 2011 transition team and outcoing seniors something to hang their hats on forever.
They did with 4 QBs, then 3 QBs for the first quarter of the season - which in reality means you have NO Qb. They did it with freshmann all over the roster. Oh man, I"m wasiting my bandwidth.
We went 5-7 in 2011. THat wasn't good enough for you. I get it.
Pasqualoni is 145-84-1 as a head coach. He's had THREE losing seasons in 19 years of head coaching college football, his first year at WEstern CT, one year at Syracuse and his first year at UConn.
That alone should tell you what kind of 'talent' we had to work with.
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I notice you didn't address a single criticism of the coaching job in my post as being incorrect, you just went straight to hyperbole with your ridiculous firing squad comments. He made critical mistakes that cost us, or could have cost us games.
You can make excuses about the lack of talent all you want. Only one team had more all conference players and they are in a BCS bowl while we aren't in any bowl. The last time we missed a bowl game we had 2 all conference players. We've never had 9, despite going to 5 bowls and winning two conference championships.
Why couldn't he win 6 games with 9 guys who performed well enough to be considered among the best in the conference? We've won more with less, that's a fact.
I didn't say Pasqualoni was a terrible coach. I said his performance this year in game and on the recruiting front, reminded me of a guy who is a great recruiter and a terrible coach. You can be satisfied with 5-7 from a guy who is a great coach and has more all conference players than almost anyone else in the conference, but I'm not.
Week after week you "fully expected" to see things change. They really didn't change much. You want to mention Rutgers, fine. What happened against Louisville? Why wasn't the team prepared for that one?
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I think you don't have a clue as to what it takes to get a team ready to play a football season, let alone week to week in season, and not a very good understanding of who and what we were as a team in January going into the year, and what we became.
With what has gone on from Jan. 1 to Dec. 16 2011? I have very, very little to complain about. There's a TON of room for improvement, though, from caoches and players. NO doubt.
I'll put it this way, if this team made the post season, I would be saying this year was one of the finer years of coaching and playing that I've ever seen. THey were in position to compete for a division title in the last quarter of the season, and they were in position to make the post season.
THey didn't, they failed, so it was a good job in a transition year.
Much higher expecations next year.
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Look, I think P will turn out to be a better recruiter (in terms of rankings and winning battles against BCS schools) than our last coach is. But I'm not ready to call him a "great" recruiter, or compare him to Ron Zook. Per Rivals, we're still last in the Big East in recruiting at the moment.
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I think the man's record speaks for itself. Nothing you just said diminishes any of his accomplishments. You don't rack up the type of record he has, without knowing what you are doing.
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According to Scout, we have ten 3 stars and are not ranked last in the BE in recruiting. Not saying I care about either Rivals or Scout's rankings, just pointing that out...
I think you should stop pretending you know me, what I know, what I don't know, and try focusing on what was specifically wrong about the points I made.
Of course the team improved from January to December. If that's the only standard you expect to be met then you'll almost never be disappointed.
They failed because it wasn't a good enough job. You can be satisfied with more talent and fewer wins than most teams in our conference. I'm not.
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If I say Ryan Griffin reminds me of Jason Whitten am I comparing the two or am I pointing out similarities?
I'm not saying P is as good a recruiter, or as bad a coach, just that I saw similarities between the two this year.
You can't have it both ways. Don't point to rivals recruiting rankings as support in one thread, and then explain how inaccurate they are in another thread.
I didn't say he was a terrible coach. I said he reminded me of one this year. And specifically, his in game management, not the week to week stuff that Spackler is babbling about.
I expect him to do better than Edsall. but that's not based on what I saw this year because we should have done better this year.
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They failed because it wasn't a good enough job. I agree. 100% and 300% on Saturdays.
If you seriously think that the 2011 UConn Huskies football squad had a lot of talent to work with? Well, everybody's entitled to an opinion. Newsflash, there are a lot more than 9 players that have to get sh8t done on the field for 60 minutes to win games.
My opinion, is that EVERY player that was capable of doing good things on the 2011 roster, was at some point during the season, and in most cases, repeatedly, put in position to do good things to help this team win.
That was not the case in 2010., or before.
If you seriously think that the 2011 UConn Huskies football squad had a lot of talent to work with? Well, everybody's entitled to an opinion. Newsflash, there are a lot more than 9 players that have to get sh8t done on the field for 60 minutes to win games.
My opinion, is that EVERY player that was capable of doing good things on the 2011 roster, was at some point during the season, and in most cases, repeatedly, put in position to do good things to help this team win.
That was not the case in 2010., or before.
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Edsall's game management? Seriously? Go back and watch Temple 2010, or any other two minute drill. I've criticized P's time managment through the season, maybe that's where you're getting this from. Maybe not, I don't care. P needs to do a better job of time management in the future, I guarantee you he knows it, and I'll also go out on a limb that many of timeouts at odd situations this year most likely prevented disasterous types of things to happen based on what the coaches were seeing on the field in identifying errors before plays actually ahppened.
ANd with that i'm done with this argument. Find somethign esle to complain about.
ANd with that i'm done with this argument. Find somethign esle to complain about.
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My view on the recruiting rankings has been made clearly over the years, but here it is again.
All else being equal, you would rather do well in the recruiting rankings than not do well. It means you're winning battles against BCS programs and landing your share of the guys most likely to have productive NFL careers. There is a correlation between recruiting rankings and success. That having been said, the correlation between recruiting rankings and success, either for the player or the team, is far from perfect and is far less than the services or the people on bulletin boards who pay for them would like you to believe. You can "lose" on rivals and scouts and still, in fact, have had a better class than those who "beat" you. But that is a very hard way to get good classes successfully and repeatedly, and not as good a long term plan.
So I use Rivals and Scouts for what they are -- compilations of how well coaches play the game of recruiting rankings. No more, no less.
I tried this once and failed, I'll give it another shot. Like I said, try focusing on my points and maybe you could see it from my point of view.
When the coaches decided to drop McEntee back into the endzone to pass on 3rd and 14 they were putting him in position to do good things? Because that decision undeniably cost us that game. You can't spot a good team 14 points on the road and expect to win. We were in a position to win because the players didn't quit. We lost because of a horrible decision by the coaches.
You can make the same argument with the Vanderbilt and WMU games where, IMO, coaching decisions and strategies cost us the game. Our players, and our coaching staff, were good enough for at least 7-5.
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