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Sounds like some schools think it’s too much too quickly.
Seems like odd timing. Start of semester, students and possibly protesters coming back and start of football season. Guessing it might not be top priority?
 
Those schools had less leverage than UConn has now, and were bad and/or redundant in their markets. They were desperate and in no position to make make demands and they got full memberships in a league that appears to be turning us down for a basketball only membership coming off a national championship in men’s and a final four in women’s where we posted one of the highest rated games in the sport’s history despite playing it at 10 pm on a Friday.

Conference realignment sucks.
I think that was the strength in being a package deal. But that’s also why I’m skeptical we’ll get in this time around.
 
I think that was the strength in being a package deal. But that’s also why I’m skeptical we’ll get in this time around.

They weren't a package deal. They would have slit each other's throats in a heartbeat for a spot on the Big 12 lifeboat.
 
Seems like odd timing. Start of semester, students and possibly protesters coming back and start of football season. Guessing it might not be top priority?

It always happens at this time of year. With the season going again it will be pushed into the back burner within the media, it already kind of was.

The closer it gets to basketball the better I say.

We’re good enough to seriously considers but not good enough to be urgent.

I see people refer to UConn Football as “unwashed -ss”. The fact that they are even still considering football is a minor miracle.
 
It's so weird to me that the big thing is "UConn needs to commit to spend more on football." Well, what do you think we would do if we had an extra $20 mil per year from our conference? In fact, the best way to quickly improve the football program is to give us a full or partial share up front.
 
If you look back, early fall, late august has always been the time that realignment happens.

Which is true.

I wonder if Yormark might have gotten more traction by rolling this out at the start of hoop season.
 
It's so weird to me that the big thing is "UConn needs to commit to spend more on football." Well, what do you think we would do if we had an extra $20 mil per year from our conference? In fact, the best way to quickly improve the football program is to give us a full or partial share up front.

These people are stupid.

The AAC adds were just as poor as us before they got Big 12 checks.
 
It's so weird to me that the big thing is "UConn needs to commit to spend more on football." Well, what do you think we would do if we had an extra $20 mil per year from our conference? In fact, the best way to quickly improve the football program is to give us a full or partial share up front.
It gives UConn a good excuse.

"Why aren't you consistently winning?"

"It is difficult to support a program financially outside a competitive conference. When UConn was in the Big East and better supported financially, we competed well."
 
It's so weird to me that the big thing is "UConn needs to commit to spend more on football." Well, what do you think we would do if we had an extra $20 mil per year from our conference? In fact, the best way to quickly improve the football program is to give us a full or partial share up front.
We're in a catch 22. We need more money to get football back to competitive levels, but for that we need to be in a conference where we get more football money. Hard to do the former without the latter being true, and we get slammed for this every time.
 
It's so weird to me that the big thing is "UConn needs to commit to spend more on football." Well, what do you think we would do if we had an extra $20 mil per year from our conference? In fact, the best way to quickly improve the football program is to give us a full or partial share up front.
Agree and it’s also why I’m tired of the comparisons to Vandy, even from B12 podcasters that support adding Uconn. If Uconn gets full or partial B12 shares, they won’t be the Vandy of the B12. Uconn already showed what they can do in a power conference. Given the chance, they’ll get it done again.
 
It's so weird to me that the big thing is "UConn needs to commit to spend more on football." Well, what do you think we would do if we had an extra $20 mil per year from our conference? In fact, the best way to quickly improve the football program is to give us a full or partial share up front.
The challenge here is many of the other programs grew their football spending in advance of getting an invite. In some cases they still may have only spent what UConn is spending, but when the football first teams look and see UConn is the only FBS program spending more on basketball than football they find it hard to believe UConn takes football seriously… thinking instead how they’d allocate the money and not that UConn is trying to match P4 program basketball spending without the resources.

Just another scenario where UConn is doing what is right for its unique situation, but because it’s different it takes more explaining to help it make sense to others. It’s part of why leaks (to mobilize football first opposition in the Big XII and Big East nostalgists in CT) can be so damaging, it just feeds into that narrative before the explanation/education process is done, giving detractors all the excuse they need.
 
It's so weird to me that the big thing is "UConn needs to commit to spend more on football." Well, what do you think we would do if we had an extra $20 mil per year from our conference? In fact, the best way to quickly improve the football program is to give us a full or partial share up front.
Yeah, but schools like Houston, Cincinnati, and UCF spent more on FB than we did facing similar obstacles.

The good news is that information juat released on football NIL regarding UConn is very promising. The bad news is, did they wait too long to start getting serious about football?
 
I feel like we are in a never-ending loop in these threads. Forking CR.

virginia tech football GIF
 
Those schools had less leverage than UConn has now, and were bad and/or redundant in their markets. They were desperate and in no position to make make demands and they got full memberships in a league that appears to be turning us down for a basketball only membership coming off a national championship in men’s and a final four in women’s where we posted one of the highest rated games in the sport’s history despite playing it at 10 pm on a Friday.

Conference realignment sucks.
You have to love that the B12 didn’t bat an eye at adding ASU (in a duplicative market with Arizona) whose arguably been more of a s***show in football than we have all things considered. The goalposts just never stop moving.
 
I'm just not vested in this. If it happens, fine, if not, I think things are going to get completely upended once FSU figures out a way to leave the ACC.

I know I sound like a broken record, but I don't think any of this is tenable over the long-term. College athletics will have to bifurcate along an open market professional sports model and somehting that resemles amatuer athletics. Most athletic departments indluding most of those in the current P4 are not going to be able to compete or necessarily even want to try to compete given the labor costs involved to attract and retain talent.
 
I'm just not vested in this. If it happens, fine, if not, I think things are going to get completely upended once FSU figures out a way to leave the ACC.

I know I sound like a broken record, but I don't think any of this is tenable over the long-term. College athletics will have to bifurcate along an open market professional sports model and somehting that resemles amatuer athletics. Most athletic departments indluding most of those in the current P4 are not going to be able to compete or necessarily even want to try to compete given the labor costs involved to attract and retain talent.
If the bifurcation happens, the amateur model would only be the feeder system for the system that pays.

Doesn't have to be a bifurcation. D1 schools now could opt for a lower division of play like UHart did.
 
I'm just not vested in this. If it happens, fine, if not, I think things are going to get completely upended once FSU figures out a way to leave the ACC.

I know I sound like a broken record, but I don't think any of this is tenable over the long-term. College athletics will have to bifurcate along an open market professional sports model and somehting that resemles amatuer athletics. Most athletic departments indluding most of those in the current P4 are not going to be able to compete or necessarily even want to try to compete given the labor costs involved to attract and retain talent.

I think at some point the market becomes so confusing and restrictive of participation that no one cares anymore, and college fans just watch pro sports. The only way college football survives long-term is revenue sharing, which will defeat all of these conference combinations of the last 20 years. Without it, football will just continue to consolidate, and shrink its market, until no one cares anymore.
 
I think at some point the market becomes so confusing and restrictive of participation that no one cares anymore, and college fans just watch pro sports. The only way college football survives long-term is revenue sharing, which will defeat all of these conference combinations of the last 20 years. Without it, football will just continue to consolidate, and shrink its market, until no one cares anymore.
Yep, people will stop watching college football and college basketball.

You just repeat the same nonsense over and over for a decade plus now.
 
I think at some point the market becomes so confusing and restrictive of participation that no one cares anymore, and college fans just watch pro sports. The only way college football survives long-term is revenue sharing, which will defeat all of these conference combinations of the last 20 years. Without it, football will just continue to consolidate, and shrink its market, until no one cares anymore.
if your doomsday prophesy comes true and there are only 2 power conferences left with only ~40 schools then i agree. that's enough to maintain regional relevance in the college football obsessed southeast and midwest, but if most of the country has no vested interest then college football will and should die.

HOWEVER the tv networks surely understand this. they clearly want to consolidate as much as possible but only to the extent that they can maximize profits in a sustainable manner. conservatively, i think that means at least 3 power conference's with ~75 schools spread around the country. and that's why we have to get into one of them.

i dont foresee the networks messing with march madness either since they understand the value. but our future bball success is unfortunately tied to sharing football revenue.
 
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I wonder if Chris Murphy has been wined and dined by UConn the way a potential million dollar donor would be? Where did he go to school? Was he an athlete ever? We certainly need Senator Murphy and his ilk to be on board as we slog through the Bataan Death March of Conference Realignment.
 
I wonder if Chris Murphy has been wined and dined by UConn the way a potential million dollar donor would be? Where did he go to school? Was he an athlete ever? We certainly need Senator Murphy and his ilk to be on board as we slog through the Bataan Death March of Conference Realignment.
I know he went to Williams undergrad (the Little Ivy school in Massachusetts), and then UConn Law School, I'd assume in the late 1990's.
 

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