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Way too many pro sports options in the Bay Area. In addition, most people go out and do stuff on weekends due to gorgeous weather vs. sitting at a football game. I am literally out every weekend playing tennis or Pickleball for example.

Most Stanford and Cal graduates are casual fans at best. Most have no idea PAC-12 blew up.
Agreed. It was like that even when I lived there in the late 90s. Stanford and Cal care about one game a year, when they play each other. They skew heavily international too 23% and 17%. At least they will always have the lateral game.
 
It would be hilarious if Notre Dame strong arms the ACC into adding Stanford and Cal. The ACC is Notre Dame's b*tch.
 
Half the ACC teams will never win a football or basketball ACC conference championship. Now you add Stanford those ACC schools won’t win an ACC championship in any sport. Stanford wins the Directors’ cup every year. They have 132 national championships.
Yes, they're great in water polo. They suck in football and basketball, Cal sucks harder.
 
It would be hilarious if Notre Dame strong arms the ACC into adding Stanford and Cal. The ACC is Notre Dame's b*tch.
Unless there are more $$ on the table then UNC won't change it's no vote. So either ESPN/the ACC/ND come up with $$$, doesn't matter which
 
ACC in small sports is fine...

2021 and 2022 Women's Cross Country NC's.

2018, 2019, 2020, 2022 Field Hockwy NC's

2013, 2014, 2021 Men's Soccer NC's

8 NC's since 2000 in Women's Soccer

9 NC's since 2000 in Men's Lacrosse

9 NC's since 2000 in Womens Lacrosse
 
ACC in small sports is fine...

2021 and 2022 Women's Cross Country NC's.

2018, 2019, 2020, 2022 Field Hockwy NC's

2013, 2014, 2021 Men's Soccer NC's

8 NC's since 2000 in Women's Soccer

9 NC's since 2000 in Men's Lacrosse

9 NC's since 2000 in Womens Lacrosse
You forgot NC's in Field Hockey, W Tennis 21-22
 
I did not put down tennis, golf, fencing, softball...

Yes...I only put down the recent in Field Hocket...15 NC's since 2000
 
Unless there are more $$ on the table then UNC won't change it's no vote. So either ESPN/the ACC/ND come up with $$$, doesn't matter which
If those schools aren't taking payment, whose getting the money?
 
It is not exactly a tough sell to recruit Olympic athletes to Stanford.

- You are going to Palo Alto, one of the morr expensive neighbourhoods with average home price of $3.3M, for 4 years.

- beautiful CA weather for 4 years.

- You are getting a scholarship from one of the top 3 universities in the USA.

it's not exactly that hard to recruit top athletes here, which is why Stanford wins the Director cup every year. Over 20% of Olympic athletes came from CA for the USA. Stanford, and in some ways Cal as well, have these built-in advantages few schools have.
Why isn’t Pepperdine P5?
 
ACC in small sports is fine...

2021 and 2022 Women's Cross Country NC's.

2018, 2019, 2020, 2022 Field Hockwy NC's

2013, 2014, 2021 Men's Soccer NC's

8 NC's since 2000 in Women's Soccer

9 NC's since 2000 in Men's Lacrosse

9 NC's since 2000 in Womens Lacrosse
Which is part of the appeal for Stanford. They don’t need the money, but they carecabout that stuff.
 
If the money is evenly distributed then that is a no go. 3-5 million net revenue helps but is negated by more travel expenses.
But damn. That's more travel expenses for everyone. ACC is an unhealthy conference if those are the mindsets.
 
It is not exactly a tough sell to recruit Olympic athletes to Stanford.

- You are going to Palo Alto, one of the morr expensive neighbourhoods with average home price of $3.3M, for 4 years.

- beautiful CA weather for 4 years.

- You are getting a scholarship from one of the top 3 universities in the USA.

it's not exactly that hard to recruit top athletes here, which is why Stanford wins the Director cup every year. Over 20% of Olympic athletes came from CA for the USA. Stanford, and in some ways Cal as well, have these built-in advantages few schools have.
Directors cup is BS. But, No question Stanford is a great AS department, but their football doesn’t draw. Cal is worse.

No chance they belong in ACC.
 
The West Virginia basement twitterati have checked in...Chris Lambert (formerly the Dude of West Virginia) and MHVER....
 
I don’t see Miami being in favor of adding Stanford or Cal either, even though they have not been a reported no vote. Miami may never get into the SEC, but they are easily a B1G target to give the B1G a presence in recruiting-rich Florida.
 

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